My G34 with a FF III now has just over 6k rounds on the optic. Zero problems, has never lost zero.
One of our CNC operators has a Glock 19 approaching 9k rounds on a Deltapoint Pro.
Owner of the company had just over 14k rounds on a FF III before it died. (Zero began to shift over time.) He's on the second one which is now at about 5k rounds.
We have loads of customers with way over 15k rounds on optics and still going (or as Farley says - they all lie I guess). One has over 20k, and that was when I spoke with him in June about having another slide milled.

I guess those are all just flukes though....

Maybe, I have no idea. Reading that thread he posted was interesting.

Unaware of this seal, but seems pretty stupid it wouldn't come standard as part of the optic. I love Trijicon based off ACOGs alone. I have no dog in this fight, just interesting to read both sides.

Wonder why SOF doesn't use them

farley the type of dude to read the rule book of basketball, then thinks he can ball

/discussion

Tell us all about your experience on this topic.

Because depending on the application, it isn't needed. There's an O ring around the perimeter of the RMR's underneath that seals the battery area. If the base you're mounting it to is wide enough, the sealer plate isn't needed as the O ring will seal on whatever base you're mounting to. On most pistol applications, the plate is needed as the slide isn't quite wide enough for the O ring to seal.Um, because they break after one mag of use obviously.

Lmao

How are slide-mounted reflex sights powered?

CR series battery.

Nah, that's more in line with the *******s that ditched master race Eotech because they think their optics will fail while they're neckbearding it up.Gotcha, but I find it hard to believe most with issues didn't understand this lol. Maybe some, but to dismiss every incident as something as simple as that seems suspect.

It was a srs question. Glocks are pretty much the standard handgun for SOF, at least Army, but I've never seen any type of optic used by them and searching for it comes back with zero hits.

Most people don't know that Trijicon even makes/sells them.
90% of people we mill slides for for RMR's don't know about the sealer plates. Most of them see the O ring and assume or don't think twice that it will seal on the slide, when in reality it will not. Not hard to see why people would think it's waterproof (Trijicon does in fact say it is, they just leave the part about the plate off) without the sealer plate.

Battery life while always on?

No one returned an EOTech because they think it will fail.

Varies hugely from one brand to another.
Fastfire III brags 10,000 hours (well over a year) while RMR will only last about a month on its brightest setting.
My FF III has been on for 7 months on medium brightness now and still fine. I'll probably just change the battery every 6-8 months to be safe. They're cheap as hell if you buy in bulk.

I think we can put this in the OP because it has been settled

Glock>
Android>
PC master race>
Aimpoint>
Pork bacon>

That would be a sticking point for me. If the optic can't be on 100% of the time, it'd be worse than having non-nightsights on your gun.

Which is why co-witness sights exist

Pick your optic wisely and you can have an optic that lasts over a year constantly on. (FF III)

And what Orifice said if it's a defense gun.

We do have customers who EDC with no irons though, just a front sight. Front sight with the line in the rear the FF III for example is more than sufficient to hit man sized targets at common defense ranges.

Hmm. Like I said idk either way lol, just interesting to read. It has made me want to shoot my buddy's more now though that's for sure.Why did every person return their Eotech?

Accupoint > Aimpoint.

ACOG > all.

apples/orangesbanana

uhh, I've used exclusively iron sights on pistols. hence why i didn't weigh in just because i read something on the internet about red dots on pistols....


that sounds reasonable right?
didnt send back my xps2 crew

pineapple > all

Because the design of the optic has a fundamental defect which results in significant POI shift at common high temperatures, and the optic is not parallax free (as advertised). This is not failure. It is also 100% acknowledged by L3/EOTech.


EDIT: ...at common high temperatures when the optic has been zeroed at "room temperature"

im like 90% convinced im buying this optic, i love Vortex but not a big fan of the reticle on their 1-4x optics, can get this one new for $600 and it's hnngg as fuk. plus Trijicon is just 10/10
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produ...RS24-C-1900000

also, strong want on the MRO...

I'd take my Accupoint over an ACOG. And I did. In fairness to the ACOG, the reticle selection is wildly better.

In on rep trade

While I would choose a 1-4x or 1-6x 100% of the time over a non magnified red dot, they are in a different class so Aimpoint remains the goat for it's class. Magnified scope talk is open for discussion thoughTheir 2.5-10 looks sexy. Not sure what your intentions are with the scope though. I would think the reasonable range that 2.5x could be used at would be right around the upper range of point shooting. I could be wrong



Ike where was your accupoint made? I'm curious to see where Trijicon is having their glass made.

MURICA. Actually I don't know, I'll go look...

A review of Dr, Lott's new book The War on Gun via the Washington Times:

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

THE WAR ON GUNS: ARMING YOURSELF AGAINST GUN CONTROL LIES

By John R. Lott Jr.

In his new book, “The War on Guns: Arming Yourself Against Gun Control Lies,” John Lott methodically dismantles one popular gun-control myth after another.

It has been said that a lie told often enough becomes the truth, and a similar phenomenon is overwhelming the gun debate in America. Oft-repeated untruths have formed common beliefs that often sway the debate about firearms. Gun-control advocates have learned that their exaggerated claims are likely to go unchecked by a largely sympathetic media, allowing them to control the narrative and shape public opinion.

What is more, as Mr. Lott explains, billionaire elitists like George Soros and Michael Bloomberg are spending hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying legislators, funding conclusion-driven research, developing “grass-roots” organizations, and literally training reporters to cover gun control issues the way they want them covered; the purpose being to negatively distort the public’s view of firearms so that there is less resistance when gun rights are taken away. There is an astonishing amount of money being poured into the gun-control movement, and the success of the movement will ultimately depend on how the public perceives the issues — meaning that facts are now more important than ever.

Thankfully, Mr. Lott has set the record straight in “The War on Guns.” In his usual methodical style, he answers the baseless rhetoric and hyperbole of gun-control advocates with facts and statistics. And better yet, in addition to providing an abundance of tables and graphs, Mr. Lott states his case in a way that is easy to comprehend so that the reader, too, can start setting the record straight when confronted with misinformation.

The following are among the many common claims that Mr. Lott thoroughly debunks:

• Mass shootings just don’t happen in other “civilized” countries with the same frequency;

• More guns equal more crime and more death;

• Universal background checks reduce crime;

• Congress has banned firearms research;

• Gun registration helps law enforcement solve crimes;

• Australia sets a positive gun control model;

• Gun-free zones prevent (rather than attract) mass shootings;

• “Assault weapon” and “large-capacity magazine” bans reduce crime and reduce fatalities in mass shootings;

• Armed citizens never prevent mass shootings.

Cont:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...utm_medium=RSS