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12-16-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By drvillain
Where did I troll?

Stay mad. Apparently the 49ers are the only team with key injuries. Lol
Hmmm i dunno calling Garoppolo average at best while constantly blowing your wad to what Matt Ryan has done in his career? Garoppolo is playing very well this season and should only get better with time.


And I didn't say the 49ers are the only team with injuries. But other teams with that many players hurt are all having brutal seasons.
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12-16-2019, 10:09 AM
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Guys….don’t pay any attention to DRV. Did you see how he watches games? Dude was legit blaming refs for everything and even when it was confirmed correct with video evidence…he would just point back to other things.

With that said tho, injuries aren’t an excuse to not beat a bad team like Atlanta. It was poor execution. Bad qb play, average to below average oline pass blocking and no pass rush. No blitzes aggravated me too.
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12-16-2019, 01:49 PM
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Seattle game could be interesting now. Gordon is done again. Not like he did a ton for them but if he was out there teams have to play for him. That leaves lockett and McKaff (spelling)? Injury wise they do look much more healthy than us.
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12-16-2019, 03:04 PM
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Seattle game could be interesting now. Gordon is done again. Not like he did a ton for them but if he was out there teams have to play for him. That leaves lockett and McKaff (spelling)? Injury wise they do look much more healthy than us.
Let’s get passed the Rams were the game matters.

Edit- I see now we can win the division even if we lose the rams game, but the top two seeds would be more difficult.
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12-16-2019, 05:30 PM
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Yesterday's result was so frustrating losing a game they should have won not only on paper, but during the actual game. The team I watched yesterday (coaching included) reminded me of the last few years it was despicable. I could nitpick plays and non calls etc but they easily EASILY had a chance to win even with all the mistakes they made and found a way to lose the game. It was pathetic. I'll ignore going into details but that **** can't happen.

The only condolences is no injuries and the fact that the loss yesterday likely wouldn't matter anyway in playoff seeding unless AZ beats Seattle this week. That said we should have won yesterday, win this week, and win next week. You can blame injuries, bad play, trap game, coaching decisions, etc bottom line is you don't lose that game. The loss better wake them the **** up.

This team is in a real catch 22 from losing to Seattle and Baltimore (and lesser so from Falcons). They got put behind the 8 ball with the early bye and Seattle Seattling their way into the record they have. Now we're stuck injured and needing rest with two brutal division games left, after a grueling 3 game stretch. What we need most is rest, the only way to get it is to win (will take a ton of energy, prolly more injuries). The 1 seed gives us the bye and much needed time to rest up and get key guys back. The issue is because of what has happened to this point the only way to get that is the hard road. It is what it is but it sucks.

In reality I want the 1 seed for this team. My only care is that we get it and it costs us more bodies. At this point I know it will help, but the biggest factor for this team is health. Without a doubt if we're healthy we're the best team in the league IMO. Some key guys aren't coming back, some will be back soon. Is it better to be a 1 seed banged up, a 5 seed banged up, or either one healthy? IMO i'll take the healthiest version of this team we can get at either seed. That's the only thing that made the loss yesterday a bit easier was no injuries.
Bottom line is win or lose the next two we need to stay healthy IMO. However it shakes out it will shake out but for the love of god can we get some luck on the injury front.

As for the team we say yesterday I didn't like the lack of WR production, lack of pass pro, and lack of pressure from the defensive front. I thought all things considered the secondary played well and the tackling was much better than Saints game. That said the lack of pressure left them hanging out to dry and combine that with coaching (?) decisions on soft coverage and not doubling Julio we saw what happened. My issue is that Shanahan and Saleh need to change things up during games sometimes and they don't. Throw some blitzes in and different coverages on defense, call a timeout to let them catch their breath on D. DO SOMETHING! As for the players, they need to do their job better if it's resulting in a loss it's not good enough.

On offense Deebo dropped a key pass, two costly fumbles even tho we recovered one, and lack of pass pro were concerning. Where was the WR production? The run game and Kittle looked great, they tried to ride that to the end and it cost us unfortunately. Gould missed a XP (what's up with him this year?) and Shanahan had some questionable decisions regarding game flow, time management, and play calls (I hope he gets better with these things with experience, I think on a game basis he does at least one or two things that make me scratch my head like why are we doing that).

If key guys are out it's up to the guys who are in to play 100% they are able to, but also up to coaches to help them succeed. Yesterday we had a mix of both of those things not happening throughout the game, although they played OK it wasn't enough to win. Had they stopped the Falcons at the end I would've been happy but it still would have been a performance I wasn't excited about overall. They need to be better or they will in fact be a 5 seed regardless of who's healthy or not because the ATL performance certainly won't beat the Rams or Seattle.

I know this is a huge post, and TBH could have been longer but I really hope the whole team and staff figures out the way to win the next two and that we can do it without anymore injuries.
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12-16-2019, 06:43 PM
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Oh and Dam Bumgarner is gone, sheds a tear.^^
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12-16-2019, 07:41 PM
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Let’s get passed the Rams were the game matters.

Edit- I see now we can win the division even if we lose the rams game, but the top two seeds would be more difficult.
Don’t even want to think about what happens if we don’t win vs the Rams. It’s an absolute must that we win that game. Control our own destiny. Don’t want to be scoreboard watching week 17.

Beat LA.
Beat Seattle.
Get healthy
Beat whomever is next up.

End the season with a W!!!
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12-17-2019, 07:03 AM
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Oh and Dam Bumgarner is gone, sheds a tear.^^
Turrible can't believe they let him go, the kept so many other "nostalgia" players and he's the one who I would want to keep most. I know it's a new regime but damn you don't let Bum go and they just did. Sad.
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12-17-2019, 03:44 PM
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Thomas is an absolute bust. Dammit.

Good to see sherm practicing. Hopefully Tartt can play through the pain.

I know I’ll get heat…but I’m rooting for saleh to get a job elsewhere.
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12-17-2019, 04:00 PM
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Thomas is an absolute bust. Dammit.

Good to see sherm practicing. Hopefully Tartt can play through the pain.

I know I’ll get heat…but I’m rooting for saleh to get a job elsewhere.
He’s not getting a HC job this year. People understand why the defense improved and it had little to do with him.

And yeah…Thomas just isn’t showing enough to stick around. Super disappointing.
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12-17-2019, 06:00 PM
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Thomas is a huge let down for where we picked him, it sucks but aside from him and Ruben (who had talent but was a head case) the new regime has drafted well IMO. Obviously not everyone will work out but I think they have done well and nowhere near Baalke levels of ****ery when it came to the draft picks.

I don't think I want Sherman or Tartt playing this week due to the risk of further injuring themselves. K'waun was concussion so he should be good to go and hopefully just doesn't bang his head. Sherm and Tartt I'd sit til playoffs or at least next week for Sherm. If they're healthy then go ahead but don't risk it, we need them in the playoffs more than we do week 16, 17.
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12-17-2019, 06:38 PM
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Thomas is a huge let down for where we picked him, it sucks but aside from him and Ruben (who had talent but was a head case) the new regime has drafted well IMO. Obviously not everyone will work out but I think they have done well and nowhere near Baalke levels of ****ery when it came to the draft picks.

I don't think I want Sherman or Tartt playing this week due to the risk of further injuring themselves. K'waun was concussion so he should be good to go and hopefully just doesn't bang his head. Sherm and Tartt I'd sit til playoffs or at least next week for Sherm. If they're healthy then go ahead but don't risk it, we need them in the playoffs more than we do week 16, 17.
If they’re good enough to practice they’re good enough to play IMO.

Guys can get hurt when 100% healthy. We need to win Saturday night. Best way to rest guys is a bye week. Let’s get it.
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12-17-2019, 06:49 PM
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If they’re good enough to practice they’re good enough to play IMO.

Guys can get hurt when 100% healthy. We need to win Saturday night. Best way to rest guys is a bye week. Let’s get it.
This, these next 2 games are absolute must wins. We need to secure at least a #2 seed to have a shot
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12-18-2019, 09:14 AM
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What would happen if we lost to the Rams but beat Seattle? Assuming Seattle wins this weekend. Who would have the tie breaker?

In the same scenario would we hold the tiebreaker over GB, NO and Seattle if all 4 teams go into the playoffs at 12-4?

We'd have beaten all three 12-4 teams at that point.
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12-18-2019, 09:48 AM
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What would happen if we lost to the Rams but beat Seattle? Assuming Seattle wins this weekend. Who would have the tie breaker?

In the same scenario would we hold the tiebreaker over GB, NO and Seattle if all 4 teams go into the playoffs at 12-4?

We'd have beaten all three 12-4 teams at that point.
Honestly I don't even want to think about that. There are several tie breaker scenarios that come into play but the last thing I want to do is worry about other teams.

It's very simple for us - win Saturday then win again Sunday and we're in great shape for a playoff push.

If we're a wild card team we can pretty much forget a trip to the SB imo. It's not to say that I don't think we can win on the road but the amount of injuries we have now at key positions and how far ago our bye week was…that bye week is a must for this team to make a run.
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12-18-2019, 09:54 AM
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I will find the article but we will still win the west if we beat Seattle and lose Saturday…but we won’t be grabbing the 1/2 unless saints or GB fall obviously

Edit- To add, it’s not super bowl or bust for this team. It’s young and needs playoff experience…it would be much better to get the first one at home. If we make the divisional round, that’s a huge win considering the preseason expectations.

I’m just rooting against the saints. Their fans are insufferable. If we don’t win it all, we will be back next year. Just have to figure out the Buckner/Armstead decision and hope kittle doesn’t kill us when he resets the TE market.
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12-18-2019, 11:42 AM
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I will find the article but we will still win the west if we beat Seattle and lose Saturday…but we won’t be grabbing the 1/2 unless saints or GB fall obviously

Edit- To add, it’s not super bowl or bust for this team. It’s young and needs playoff experience…it would be much better to get the first one at home. If we make the divisional round, that’s a huge win considering the preseason expectations.

I’m just rooting against the saints. Their fans are insufferable. If we don’t win it all, we will be back next year. Just have to figure out the Buckner/Armstead decision and hope kittle doesn’t kill us when he resets the TE market.
I don't really care about other fanbases. Sports misc has their set of blowhards and people take online "beefs" way too personally around here.

Obviously I hope we win it all and while it's not SB or bust, after the way this season started not getting there would be disappointing even if the result ends up being way beyond our preseason expectations. You simply never know how next year goes, how different your team will be with free agency/draft/retirements.

I legit don't even want to think about tie breakers.

To me we have to win this Rams game and then take care of business against Seattle if we really want to do anything.

This team is beatup and tired and its' crystal clear in the decline in pass rush but we're still talented enough to make a run but that bye week is critical.

We are a better team than LA and Seattle. If all 3 teams play their best based on the talent/scheme, etc we are the better team this season.

We let the Falcons get away and clearly overlooked them. We cannot lose 2 in a row and hope for the best week 17.

Can't wait for Saturday night. Hopefully our guys go out there and look much better on both sides of the ball and remind people that we're legit. Then follow that up with doing something we havne't done in a long time - win in Seattle.
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12-18-2019, 01:29 PM
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We just need to win out. We win out, we're the #1 seed, since we will have the edge against everyone else in head to heads and NFC wins I believe

Rams should be easy. I hate to say that, but it's true. They play Seattle/AZ hard, they showed their true colors against the Ravens and Cowboys.

Seattle is the game. We need that win

I really hope we can get more of these defenders back
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12-18-2019, 02:06 PM
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We just need to win out. We win out, we're the #1 seed, since we will have the edge against everyone else in head to heads and NFC wins I believe

Rams should be easy. I hate to say that, but it's true. They play Seattle/AZ hard, they showed their true colors against the Ravens and Cowboys.

Seattle is the game. We need that win

I really hope we can get more of these defenders back

Did you see the way our OL played against Atlanta? Do you recall how Aaron Donald did against us in the last game?

No game with our interior against the best in the game will be easy IMO. My hope is that our OL blocks well enough in the running game and we perform similar to what Dallas did and keep our D off the field and have long ass drives on the ground resulting in TDs.

Then take some shots off playaction.

On defense our pass rush has to find its groove again and we definitely have to tackle!
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12-18-2019, 04:02 PM
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Did you see the way our OL played against Atlanta? Do you recall how Aaron Donald did against us in the last game?

No game with our interior against the best in the game will be easy IMO. My hope is that our OL blocks well enough in the running game and we perform similar to what Dallas did and keep our D off the field and have long ass drives on the ground resulting in TDs.

Then take some shots off playaction.

On defense our pass rush has to find its groove again and we definitely have to tackle!
This is what I see happening
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12-18-2019, 04:46 PM
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Did you see the way our OL played against Atlanta? Do you recall how Aaron Donald did against us in the last game?

No game with our interior against the best in the game will be easy IMO. My hope is that our OL blocks well enough in the running game and we perform similar to what Dallas did and keep our D off the field and have long ass drives on the ground resulting in TDs.

Then take some shots off playaction.

On defense our pass rush has to find its groove again and we definitely have to tackle!
This, wtf.

Easy? We just lost to Atlanta. Nothing is easy…the rams are capable of a good game and we always play close (with the exception of earlier this year, and even then they came out right down the field).

Seriously. The rams could beat us. What in JGs play inspired you like he would takeover if needed? The oline has been so inconsistent (almost at its best with backup tackles although mcg seems back). The pass rush is gone but the run lanes are still there for opposing teams.
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12-18-2019, 05:09 PM
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This, wtf.

Easy? We just lost to Atlanta. Nothing is easy…the rams are capable of a good game and we always play close (with the exception of earlier this year, and even then they came out right down the field).

Seriously. The rams could beat us. What in JGs play inspired you like he would takeover if needed? The oline has been so inconsistent (almost at its best with backup tackles although mcg seems back). The pass rush is gone but the run lanes are still there for opposing teams.
JG has been playing well, the last game is kind of like a wtf game, it didn't make any sense. I don't see the offense playing that bad again. If they do, who cares because we get bounced 1st playoff game anyway. I have faith they'll bring it
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JG has been playing well, the last game is kind of like a wtf game, it didn't make any sense. I don't see the offense playing that bad again. If they do, who cares because we get bounced 1st playoff game anyway. I have faith they'll bring it
I agree. I think we came out very vanilla against Atlanta thinking we can win without anything crazy and the team failed to play with urgency anywhere(got lucky Atlanta committed a crazy penalty on their onside kick) and it cost us.

I think the team understands how much they neee the bye week and will come out with much more urgency for this game. Just disagree that it will mean an easy win. Rams are still pretty damn talented and well coached. I think it will be a one score game but we should win.

But I’d love it to be an easy win. I’m tired of the stress.
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12-18-2019, 06:17 PM
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I agree. I think we came out very vanilla against Atlanta thinking we can win without anything crazy and the team failed to play with urgency anywhere(got lucky Atlanta committed a crazy penalty on their onside kick) and it cost us.

I think the team understands how much they neee the bye week and will come out with much more urgency for this game. Just disagree that it will mean an easy win. Rams are still pretty damn talented and well coached. I think it will be a one score game but we should win.

But I’d love it to be an easy win. I’m tired of the stress.
All the aggression was gone. It was like they thought they could just coast to a victory. Any NFL team can beat any other team any given Sunday. It should be an easier win than Seattle, since LA may as well be homefield advantage with all the 9ers fans
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12-18-2019, 06:36 PM
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Nothing about this Rams game will be easy, not with the state of the team currently with injuries and not having a bye since week 4. That being said we should still win, but we will need a much better performance than ATL game. I'm mostly worried about the OL and DL, we need to win there and the rest will fall into place.

I'm curious to see if we are closer to what we saw in every other game or closer to the ATL game. This game will tell a lot in regards to that. The fact is this team isn't at its peak with the injuries currently but we're still a damn good team. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place with the situation they are in with regards to seeding and the bye when it comes to playoffs. It will all unfold as it will but one thing I know is I'll be going crazy rooting for a win every damn game from here until the season is officially over no matter where they're seeded or playing. We officially have at a minimum 1 playoff game, think about how awesome that is from what we've all watched since the last 49ers playoff game, the worst playoff game ever results wise with Bowman shredding his knee and Sherm **** talking Crabtree and a loss to a Seattle team we all hate. Enjoy the season, enjoy the playoffs whether we're a 1 or 6 seed. Once you're in you got a shot and that is all you need. Nobody expected this from this team and we have a SOLID future ahead.

As for this week, fuk Goof, **** Clay Mathews, fuk LA, and fuk the Rams. Niners gotta come out and get the W.
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12-18-2019, 07:09 PM
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The good news is that Goff isn’t capable of torching your defense for 2TDs In the final minutes of the game, so you boys can rest easy if you don’t let them linger. Good luck this week
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The good news is that Goff isn’t capable of torching your defense for 2TDs In the final minutes of the game, so you boys can rest easy if you don’t let them linger. Good luck this week
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12-18-2019, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
We just need to win out. We win out, we're the #1 seed, since we will have the edge against everyone else in head to heads and NFC wins I believe

Rams should be easy . I hate to say that, but it's true. They play Seattle/AZ hard, they showed their true colors against the Ravens and Cowboys.

Seattle is the game. We need that win

I really hope we can get more of these defenders back
So the Falcons beating the Saints is fine because it's a divisional game. But the Niners should easily handle the Rams. ok.
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12-18-2019, 10:35 PM
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So the Falcons beating the Saints is fine because it's a divisional game. But the Niners should easily handle the Rams. ok.
Falcons are Saints divisional thorn. Niners are Rams divisional thorn. Rams are Seattle's divisional thorn. etc
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