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01-08-2020, 11:20 AM
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Did yall see this stat?
Jimmy Garoppolo vs playoff teams this year (Sea, GB, Bal, NO, Sea)
97 of 144 (67%)
1,300 yds (260 per game)
9.02 yds per attempt
8 TD
2 Int
114.52 QB Rating
Jimmy Garoppolo vs playoff teams this year (Sea, GB, Bal, NO, Sea)
97 of 144 (67%)
1,300 yds (260 per game)
9.02 yds per attempt
8 TD
2 Int
114.52 QB Rating
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01-08-2020, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
I'll see that stat and raise you this one………..
Did yall see this stat?
Jimmy Garoppolo vs playoff teams this year (Sea, GB, Bal, NO, Sea)
97 of 144 (67%)
1,300 yds (260 per game)
9.02 yds per attempt
8 TD
2 Int
114.52 QB Rating
Jimmy Garoppolo vs playoff teams this year (Sea, GB, Bal, NO, Sea)
97 of 144 (67%)
1,300 yds (260 per game)
9.02 yds per attempt
8 TD
2 Int
114.52 QB Rating
Adam Theilen and Dalvin Cook have only played in 10 games together this season. The Vikings averaged 27.9 points in those games. Their team total is set at 19.5 vs the 49ers who have allowed at least 20 points in 8 of their last 9 games.
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01-08-2020, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
We have some crucial players coming back from injury though
I'll see that stat and raise you this one………..
Adam Theilen and Dalvin Cook have only played in 10 games together this season. The Vikings averaged 27.9 points in those games. Their team total is set at 19.5 vs the 49ers who have allowed at least 20 points in 8 of their last 9 games.
Adam Theilen and Dalvin Cook have only played in 10 games together this season. The Vikings averaged 27.9 points in those games. Their team total is set at 19.5 vs the 49ers who have allowed at least 20 points in 8 of their last 9 games.
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01-08-2020, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
:bowdown:
Did yall see this stat?
Jimmy Garoppolo vs playoff teams this year (Sea, GB, Bal, NO, Sea)
97 of 144 (67%)
1,300 yds (260 per game)
9.02 yds per attempt
8 TD
2 Int
114.52 QB Rating
Jimmy Garoppolo vs playoff teams this year (Sea, GB, Bal, NO, Sea)
97 of 144 (67%)
1,300 yds (260 per game)
9.02 yds per attempt
8 TD
2 Int
114.52 QB Rating
01-08-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
Our defense has to show they can play like they did in the first part of the season.
I'll see that stat and raise you this one………..
Adam Theilen and Dalvin Cook have only played in 10 games together this season. The Vikings averaged 27.9 points in those games. Their team total is set at 19.5 vs the 49ers who have allowed at least 20 points in 8 of their last 9 games.
Adam Theilen and Dalvin Cook have only played in 10 games together this season. The Vikings averaged 27.9 points in those games. Their team total is set at 19.5 vs the 49ers who have allowed at least 20 points in 8 of their last 9 games.
But our DL depth was killed due to injury and we haven't had a bye week since week 4 of the season. They SHOULD be ready to play more like they did earlier in the season. On paper we're getting back our starting DE, SS and LB for this game.
Lots of key injuries on D end of the year.
As I brought up earlier in the games where Bosa, Ford and Alexander were on the field at the same time, opposing QBs had a QBR of 3.
Let's get to the game already!
01-08-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By blinkers88⏩
Yeah, my guess is these 10 games probably fell against mainly cupcake teams too fwiw…….
We have some crucial players coming back from injury though
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01-08-2020, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
That is a scary thought for sure, but you have to think some of them coming back will still be somewhat limited and have some rust……..
As I brought up earlier in the games where Bosa, Ford and Alexander were on the field at the same time, opposing QBs had a QBR of 3.
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01-08-2020, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
They’re middle of the pack in run blocking and bottom 10 in pass blocking. They took a step forward this year but still get abused by good DLs. Which has lead to terrible games from Cousins.
How has your OL been this year?
If you guys get consistent pressure on Cousins its game over. Thats the key for the 49ers imo.
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01-08-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By GiveHerBills⏩
We'll see what happens. Our DL has really taken a hit with Ford being out and the losses to all the depth we had early on - Blair, DJ Jones(probably biggest loss as he was playing VERY well inside), Moore, Julian Taylor who was showing big things filling in for DJ.
They’re middle of the pack in run blocking and bottom 10 in pass blocking. They took a step forward this year but still get abused by good DLs. Which has lead to terrible games from Cousins.
If you guys get consistent pressure on Cousins its game over. Thats the key for the 49ers imo.
If you guys get consistent pressure on Cousins its game over. Thats the key for the 49ers imo.
Lack of depth could bite us in the ass but if Ford can at least play on obvious pass rush situations it will be a big boost. Having him on the edge also allows us to play Buckner and Armstead inside. Makes it really tough for OLs to double in that situation.
My worry about rust is more in regards to Kwon. Greenlaw has been playing very good lately and improving with each game so I'm curious what they're going to do with the two of them. Odds are they move Dre to SAM and give Kwon the Will spot again in base but not sure how much base we'll play.
Kwon before his injury was a lightning rod on D but he also had some issues with missed tackles, coming back from a torn pec…hopefully he won't be a liability making tackles.
01-08-2020, 02:42 PM
#5920
Thielen supposedly tweaked an ankle today in practice and Cohn posted a video of Kwon grabbing at his forearm a bit at practice, but I think he was just hoping for clicks.
I still think that the defense we are going to see Saturday from the 49ers is going to be like very early on in the season in terms of energy and speed and discipline and that it's not going to bode well for Cousins. I think the Vikings present a tough matchup but it will be undermined by our rest and energy + home field advantage.
On offense I think Shanny will be 1 step ahead of the Vikings and we will see success from our team on both sides of the ball. If we limit any stupid big mistakes I really like our chances, especially if we jump out on them early.
I still think that the defense we are going to see Saturday from the 49ers is going to be like very early on in the season in terms of energy and speed and discipline and that it's not going to bode well for Cousins. I think the Vikings present a tough matchup but it will be undermined by our rest and energy + home field advantage.
On offense I think Shanny will be 1 step ahead of the Vikings and we will see success from our team on both sides of the ball. If we limit any stupid big mistakes I really like our chances, especially if we jump out on them early.
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01-08-2020, 04:21 PM
#5921
And Kwon tweeted back at Cohn:
Haha come on bro ♂️
Keep the negativity away please! Legendary vibes only
LMAO
In other news Spoon says he's starting, interesting. I just hope we get the best version of him out there, he's shown he can do it, but he's gotta go out and do it Saturday.
Haha come on bro ♂️
Keep the negativity away please! Legendary vibes only
LMAO
In other news Spoon says he's starting, interesting. I just hope we get the best version of him out there, he's shown he can do it, but he's gotta go out and do it Saturday.
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01-08-2020, 05:29 PM
#5922
Originally Posted By mngardne⏩
I doubt it’s anything serious with Thielen and I hope he plays. I’m afraid of what the Vikings can do if we’re not careful but end of the day I’d rather we play their best with our best. I think if we play our best we can win. Don’t want them missing their top guys.
Thielen supposedly tweaked an ankle today in practice and Cohn posted a video of Kwon grabbing at his forearm a bit at practice, but I think he was just hoping for clicks.
I still think that the defense we are going to see Saturday from the 49ers is going to be like very early on in the season in terms of energy and speed and discipline and that it's not going to bode well for Cousins. I think the Vikings present a tough matchup but it will be undermined by our rest and energy + home field advantage.
On offense I think Shanny will be 1 step ahead of the Vikings and we will see success from our team on both sides of the ball. If we limit any stupid big mistakes I really like our chances, especially if we jump out on them early.
I still think that the defense we are going to see Saturday from the 49ers is going to be like very early on in the season in terms of energy and speed and discipline and that it's not going to bode well for Cousins. I think the Vikings present a tough matchup but it will be undermined by our rest and energy + home field advantage.
On offense I think Shanny will be 1 step ahead of the Vikings and we will see success from our team on both sides of the ball. If we limit any stupid big mistakes I really like our chances, especially if we jump out on them early.
Let’s beat the best.
01-08-2020, 07:29 PM
#5923
Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
Yeah im afraid of that. The only one i really want back is Ford on passing downs only.
That is a scary thought for sure, but you have to think some of them coming back will still be somewhat limited and have some rust……..
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01-08-2020, 09:57 PM
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Really there is zero reason we should lose to the Vikings. We would have to just completely **** the bed like the Saints did
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01-09-2020, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
This, no way we're overlooking them, I don't think anything they can do will catch us by surprise or we won't adjust to it, and personally I think we impose our will on this game and they're gonna be in trouble. I could see it being close, I could see a way we lose, but IMO we roll through them this week is the most likely scenario.
Really there is zero reason we should lose to the Vikings. We would have to just completely **** the bed like the Saints did
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01-09-2020, 05:25 AM
#5926
Originally Posted By mngardne⏩
Yeah, at least offensively that isn't how the Vikings roll. Teams know they want to run it with Cook, throw screens to him, which sets up deep shots to AT/Diggs when defenders start cheating up and looking in the backfield. But none of it works if the Vikings RB's aren't getting good rushing gains on 1st or 2nd down. Go see how the Bears D has managed to completely own us the last couple years by shutting down our run. This forces Kirk to pass every down and the DL can pin their ears back and come after him. Even if they don't get to him–Kirk starts seeing ghosts out there and becomes hesitant and inaccurate. So it will all start with stopping the run for your defense.
This, no way we're overlooking them,
I don't think anything they can do will catch us by surprise
or we won't adjust to it, and personally I think we impose our will on this game and they're gonna be in trouble. I could see it being close, I could see a way we lose, but IMO we roll through them this week is the most likely scenario.
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01-09-2020, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Their pass rush is the biggest threat to me. If our OL doesn't play well that could completely throw off the offense and without seeing the D play well lately it's hard to say that they would be able to do their part holding off the Vikings talented offense.
Really there is zero reason we should lose to the Vikings. We would have to just completely **** the bed like the Saints did
Having said that I trust that our guys will be up to the challenge and it should be a good game. I'd love to see us win big so my heart isn't beating a mile a minute in the closing moments of the game but it's just what we're doing these days so as long as we win…I'll take it.
01-09-2020, 06:06 AM
#5928
Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
Good news for you guys is our best run DLman is out. We just signed Earl Mitchell to help the rotation but he was just bad for us last year and has been out of football for almost a full season.
Yeah, at least offensively that isn't how the Vikings roll. Teams know they want to run it with Cook, throw screens to him, which sets up deep shots to AT/Diggs when defenders start cheating up and looking in the backfield. But none of it works if the Vikings RB's aren't getting good rushing gains on 1st or 2nd down. Go see how the Bears D has managed to completely own us the last couple years by shutting down our run. This forces Kirk to pass every down and the DL can pin their ears back and come after him. Even if they don't get to him–Kirk starts seeing ghosts out there and becomes hesitant and inaccurate. So it will all start with stopping the run for your defense.
We've definitely struggled more vs the running game most of the season so if you guys stick with it, it may pay off(hopefully not though) that's one of my concerns with Kwon coming back…how will his tackling be?
Our DL is definitely made more to rush the passer and isn't as good when going to the sidelines on stretch plays which certainly also goes in your favor.
My hope of course is that we can hit the ground running after a week of rest and get an early lead to hopefully push your playcalling more into the pass heavy world vs sticking with running Cook but which fanbase wouldn't like an early lead? Easier said than done.
01-09-2020, 06:15 AM
#5929
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Our DL is definitely made more to rush the passer and isn't as good when going to the sidelines on stretch plays which certainly also goes in your favor.
The same can be said for our DL, except our LB's Barr and Kendricks move very well from sideline to sideline and our DE's Griffen and Hunter are both athletic. Where we get gashed is up the middle. NT Linval Joseph has shown his age this year and is actually rotated out a lot more for a couple younger nondescript players. Kendricks (while an All-Pro MLB) is still undersized and typically get engulfed by blockers in the trenches. A lot of the times we have to bring up Safety Harrison Smith into the box to help out w/the run, which creates audible opportunities for the opposing QB.
Our DL is definitely made more to rush the passer and isn't as good when going to the sidelines on stretch plays which certainly also goes in your favor.
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01-09-2020, 01:51 PM
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Ford officially listed as questionable. fuk
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01-09-2020, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By blinkers88⏩
I think think they are just listing him as such? At least I hope so… Kwon is activated!!!! Street and person are also questionable.
Ford officially listed as questionable. fuk
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01-09-2020, 04:34 PM
#5932
Originally Posted By blinkers88⏩
He’ll play. Don’t forget he was getting in like one limited practice a week and still playing before his last injury. I believe he’s had at least 3 practices so far.
Ford officially listed as questionable. fuk
If anyone is out it’s Kwon imo. We need Ford.
01-09-2020, 06:12 PM
#5933
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
I have no doubt he'll play… I was just hoping he'd be off the injury report
He’ll play. Don’t forget he was getting in like one limited practice a week and still playing before his last injury. I believe he’s had at least 3 practices so far.
If anyone is out it’s Kwon imo. We need Ford.
If anyone is out it’s Kwon imo. We need Ford.
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01-10-2020, 09:17 AM
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01-10-2020, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
We should win big, we have all the tools. Vikings just aren't as good of a team on either side of the ball. It should be a 2 score win at least. We have faced much worse D lines
Their pass rush is the biggest threat to me. If our OL doesn't play well that could completely throw off the offense and without seeing the D play well lately it's hard to say that they would be able to do their part holding off the Vikings talented offense.
Having said that I trust that our guys will be up to the challenge and it should be a good game. I'd love to see us win big so my heart isn't beating a mile a minute in the closing moments of the game but it's just what we're doing these days so as long as we win…I'll take it.
Having said that I trust that our guys will be up to the challenge and it should be a good game. I'd love to see us win big so my heart isn't beating a mile a minute in the closing moments of the game but it's just what we're doing these days so as long as we win…I'll take it.
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01-10-2020, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
I simply don't see a "win big" situation playing out with how talented the Vikings are but I would love it to be true.
We should win big, we have all the tools. Vikings just aren't as good of a team on either side of the ball. It should be a 2 score win at least. We have faced much worse D lines
I keep looking over things, trying to feel great about it but the Vikings going into New Orleans and walking out with a W was definitely a wtf moment and makes me concerned.
I do think we have a better team and we'll be ready to play without overlooking Minnesota but I felt pretty confident we were going to beat Seattle earlier in the year either. Of course a lot of crazy sh*t happened in that game and we didn't have Kittle but that's the problem…crazy chit can happen in football. When you're not playing a best of 5/7 series if the team is off at all or gets some bad bounces it's over.
Hopefully the rest helps our D get back on track and we're clicking on all sides and show everyone why we're the #1 seed.
01-10-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Like I said before bro, this Vikings team is NOT built to comeback. Yes we did have one big comeback this season (down 20 at home against Denver w/them starting a 3rd string QB), but not against a good team. You get us down by 10 or more–we can't run really ATTEMPT to run the ball and that's when Kirk does his duck and cover crap…..
I simply don't see a "win big" situation playing out with how talented the Vikings are but I would love it to be true.
I keep looking over things, trying to feel great about it but the Vikings going into New Orleans and walking out with a W was definitely a wtf moment and makes me concerned.
I do think we have a better team and we'll be ready to play without overlooking Minnesota but I felt pretty confident we were going to beat Seattle earlier in the year either. Of course a lot of crazy sh*t happened in that game and we didn't have Kittle but that's the problem…crazy chit can happen in football. When you're not playing a best of 5/7 series if the team is off at all or gets some bad bounces it's over.
Hopefully the rest helps our D get back on track and we're clicking on all sides and show everyone why we're the #1 seed.
I keep looking over things, trying to feel great about it but the Vikings going into New Orleans and walking out with a W was definitely a wtf moment and makes me concerned.
I do think we have a better team and we'll be ready to play without overlooking Minnesota but I felt pretty confident we were going to beat Seattle earlier in the year either. Of course a lot of crazy sh*t happened in that game and we didn't have Kittle but that's the problem…crazy chit can happen in football. When you're not playing a best of 5/7 series if the team is off at all or gets some bad bounces it's over.
Hopefully the rest helps our D get back on track and we're clicking on all sides and show everyone why we're the #1 seed.
If the Vikings can take SF's initial punch and not get knocked out–then you might have reason for concern. Never thought I'd say this with Kirk as my QB, but a close game actually favors the Vikings……
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01-10-2020, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
No question 49ers have to come out firing early to help themselves. Not only is it better to play with a lead but as you say…if the Vikings can take the early punches and hang in there it will be a tougher road.
Like I said before bro, this Vikings team is NOT built to comeback. Yes we did have one big comeback this season (down 20 at home against Denver w/them starting a 3rd string QB), but not against a good team. You get us down by 10 or more–we can't run really ATTEMPT to run the ball and that's when Kirk does his duck and cover crap…..
If the Vikings can take SF's initial punch and not get knocked out–then you might have reason for concern. Never thought I'd say this with Kirk as my QB, but a close game actually favors the Vikings……
If the Vikings can take SF's initial punch and not get knocked out–then you might have reason for concern. Never thought I'd say this with Kirk as my QB, but a close game actually favors the Vikings……
Big advantage for the niners is the rest…so they should come out fresher than the Vikings. If you can't get a lead at that point it may be a tough go of it. And god knows I don't want to see another last second game…unless it's a win in which case I'll deal.
01-10-2020, 05:21 PM
#5939
Streets career was so short. Sucks because he seems like a good kid.
BD. You are seriously underselling the Vikings. They have the players and the d line. Our offensive line is complete middle of the pack and as we have seen, can be capable of nightmare games.
Also, we are vulnerable to the run.
I definitely think we should and will win…but a cake walk? Not even close. It’s playoff football and things get much tighter.
BD. You are seriously underselling the Vikings. They have the players and the d line. Our offensive line is complete middle of the pack and as we have seen, can be capable of nightmare games.
Also, we are vulnerable to the run.
I definitely think we should and will win…but a cake walk? Not even close. It’s playoff football and things get much tighter.
01-10-2020, 11:43 PM
#5940
Originally Posted By SF49ers⏩
We must have been watching a different Vikings team all year. They're good, but they are not great. The Saints game was more a case of the Saints just choking and playing terrible, and it was still close. You really think Kirk Cousins can pull off another game like that?
Streets career was so short. Sucks because he seems like a good kid.
BD. You are seriously underselling the Vikings. They have the players and the d line. Our offensive line is complete middle of the pack and as we have seen, can be capable of nightmare games.
Also, we are vulnerable to the run.
I definitely think we should and will win…but a cake walk? Not even close. It’s playoff football and things get much tighter.
BD. You are seriously underselling the Vikings. They have the players and the d line. Our offensive line is complete middle of the pack and as we have seen, can be capable of nightmare games.
Also, we are vulnerable to the run.
I definitely think we should and will win…but a cake walk? Not even close. It’s playoff football and things get much tighter.
What about their D Line makes you guys so afraid? You don't think we have faced much better D Lines this year?
I am underselling the Vikings. I like the team we really shouldn't lose, especially with what we are getting back on D
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