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It's pretty incredible how quickly they can build houses srs
02-11-2026, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By LongNstrong⏩
Well I've already proven one of my points seeing as we have a 2700 sq ft home featuring a $270/mo gas bill
You know it's true.
You've proven a total of 0 things other than speculation that no 2026 houses will be standing in 2200 and the 1800 will still be standing. I guess you'll really be able to shove it in my face in 180 years from now.
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02-11-2026, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Seems like you misunderstood me, I'm not saying I don't think new homes arent more advanced technology wise, I'm just saying they are built more poorly generally and with less permanent building materials.
Yeah exactly
Mine was built in 2018, is 3200 sq ft and $120 in gas at most during the winter months
I'm not saying you don't have a good house. To still be standing for when it was built obviously was a good house but to think it's going to be advantageous to newer homes is really some next level cope. Most on here just want to hate on anything new to sound cool or edgy and reject modern society. It's misc mentality 101 in 2026 sadly
Mine was built in 2018, is 3200 sq ft and $120 in gas at most during the winter months
I'm not saying you don't have a good house. To still be standing for when it was built obviously was a good house but to think it's going to be advantageous to newer homes is really some next level cope. Most on here just want to hate on anything new to sound cool or edgy and reject modern society. It's misc mentality 101 in 2026 sadly
I wouldn't even mind living in one that much, I was just trying to say that older houses are superior in the sense they will last the test of time.
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02-11-2026, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
AI couldn't get specific enough to estimate for sq ft so this will have to do. Clearly AI needs to step it up a bit but this is better than nothing...
I live in NY bro gas and electric are high here
I’m getting solar panels in spring to hopefully help take some of that high electric bills down
I’m getting solar panels in spring to hopefully help take some of that high electric bills down
"For the 2025-26 winter heating season (November–March), average residential natural gas bills in the Buffalo, NY area are projected to be around $135 per month. This estimate, driven by National Fuel, reflects a 16% increase from the previous year due to colder weather forecasts and rising market rates. Costs may range between $150–$250 per month for combined gas/electric utilities depending on home size. "
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
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02-11-2026, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By LongNstrong⏩
You're cherry picking the ones that have already stood the test of time to say they will continue to stand the test of time though.
Seems like you misunderstood me, I'm not saying I don't think new homes are more advanced technology wise, I'm just saying they are built more poorly generally and with less permanent building materials.
I wouldn't even mind living in one that much, I was just trying to say that older houses are superior in the sense they will last the test of time.
I wouldn't even mind living in one that much, I was just trying to say that older houses are superior in the sense they will last the test of time.
Of course the majority of 2026 houses won't last. Do you honestly believe the MAJORITY of 1800 houses are still standing? Get real...
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
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02-11-2026, 11:34 AM
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My first thought was big house with a tiny garage. Every community near me seems to be building min of 3 car garages now. I'm glad I live outside the HOA/track home district.
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02-11-2026, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
So my heating bill is average then since I have a inlaw apartment with a separate furnace
AI couldn't get specific enough to estimate for sq ft so this will have to do. Clearly AI needs to step it up a bit but this is better than nothing...
"For the 2025-26 winter heating season (November–March), average residential natural gas bills in the Buffalo, NY area are projected to be around $135 per month. This estimate, driven by National Fuel, reflects a 16% increase from the previous year due to colder weather forecasts and rising market rates. Costs may range between $150–$250 per month for combined gas/electric utilities depending on home size. "
"For the 2025-26 winter heating season (November–March), average residential natural gas bills in the Buffalo, NY area are projected to be around $135 per month. This estimate, driven by National Fuel, reflects a 16% increase from the previous year due to colder weather forecasts and rising market rates. Costs may range between $150–$250 per month for combined gas/electric utilities depending on home size. "
02-11-2026, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
As I said, there are literally still whole towns that retained all their old houses and buildings. They're all over New England.....
You're cherry picking the ones that have already stood the test of time to say they will continue to stand the test of time though.
Of course the majority of 2026 houses won't last. Do you honestly believe the MAJORITY of 1800 houses are still standing? Get real...
Of course the majority of 2026 houses won't last. Do you honestly believe the MAJORITY of 1800 houses are still standing? Get real...
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02-11-2026, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By LongNstrong⏩
Yah my town is practically all old brick buildings lol
As I said, there are literally still whole towns that retained all their old houses and buildings. They're all over New England.....
02-11-2026, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Stick framing is trash there is nothing subjective about it. Modern residencial construction in the us is trash literally sticks and cardboard.
ITT: Everything acts like because it was built fast they were built cheaply/poorly.
Thats not remotely how it works you house building experts
Thats not remotely how it works you house building experts
That's an influence of convenience and maximizing profits by developers at the expense of the people. Just look at any residencial area in the us after a tornado, hurricane or major storm all the houses turn into Rubble. Even in the poorest latin american countries the houses are concrete based much more durable and fire proof.
02-11-2026, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Peru.......go fist yourself you commie phaggot.
Im not peruvian so lol
Peru.......go fist yourself you commie phaggot.
Bte all of those houses despite being in a literal slum are built with concrete, they can withstand natural disasters and fires way better than your stick house.
What does that say about your housing market? A third world slum has more robust structures than your avg house.
02-11-2026, 11:58 AM
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Looks like a 2 story home on a slab? Of course they can frame those fast as fuck. What takes the longest are trades and finish work. Also anything underground takes a lot longer as well.
02-11-2026, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
This, I get that lumber is better if the house is in hurricane/earthquake territory, bu tin no way shape or form are houses build better today. They might be more technologically "advanced", but the old victorians/tudors of the early to mid 1900's had much "better bones" and had actual design.
Sticket framing is trash there is nothing subjective about it. Modern residencial construction in the us is trash literally sticks and cardboard.
That's an influence of convenience and maximizing profits by developers at the expense of the people. Just look at any residencial area in the us after a tornado, hurricane or major storm all the houses turn into Rubble. Even in the poorest latin american countries the houses are concrete based much more durable and fire proof.
That's an influence of convenience and maximizing profits by developers at the expense of the people. Just look at any residencial area in the us after a tornado, hurricane or major storm all the houses turn into Rubble. Even in the poorest latin american countries the houses are concrete based much more durable and fire proof.
Hell even old houses made of wood/lumber could still be really nice. Check out this 1894 Victorian. Would take it any day of the week over some slop McMansion
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/67-Jayne-Ave-Patchogue-NY-11772/59443905_zpid/
02-11-2026, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By John
Yes older homes in the us were a lot better built and a lot better designed with actual care and craftmanship. The us had great architects in the early to mid 20th century. Frank lloyd wright, louis khan, Walter gropious to name a few.
This, I get that lumber is better if the house is in hurricane/earthquake territory, bu tin no way shape or form are houses build better today. They might be more technologically "advanced", but the old victorians/tudors of the early to mid 1900's had much "better bones" and had actual design.
Hell even old houses made of wood/lumber could still be really nice. Check out this 1894 Victorian. Would take it any day of the week over some slop McMansion
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/67-Jayne-Ave-Patchogue-NY-11772/59443905_zpid/
Hell even old houses made of wood/lumber could still be really nice. Check out this 1894 Victorian. Would take it any day of the week over some slop McMansion
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/67-Jayne-Ave-Patchogue-NY-11772/59443905_zpid/
Things went to shit in the post war period wen construction got heavily influenced by profit chasing and convenience for developers/ builders.
02-11-2026, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Sure it did pal...houses have about dozen inspections to go through, all designed by engineers. Meanwhile your little favelas get put up by retards with no oversight. That's what makes you the TURD WORLD
Yes older homes in the us were a lot better built and a lot better designed with actual care and craftmanship. The us had great architects in the early to mid 20th century. Frank lloyd wright, louis khan, Walter gropious to name a few.
Things went to shit in the post war period wen construction got heavily influenced by profit chasing and convenience for developers/ builders.
Things went to shit in the post war period wen construction got heavily influenced by profit chasing and convenience for developers/ builders.
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Originally Posted By Waingro⏩
Lol keep coping. Youre one of the trashiest and dumbesr miscers around your opinion is worthless.
Sure it did pal...houses have about dozen inspections to go through, all designed by engineers. Meanwhile your little favelas get put up by retards with no oversight. That's what makes you the TURD WORLD
Im an architect and real estate developer so im way more qualified than you on the subject. Stay on your lane and go back to your trailer park.
Even a self built favela is sturdier than your avg stick frame home.
Ive designed cmu block luxury villas in florida btw.
02-11-2026, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By John
When I was redoing my kitchen the old wood from the 1800s was chewing up my recip saw blades. Those iron nails are thick af too. New wood I can literally cut with a Dremel lol
This, I get that lumber is better if the house is in hurricane/earthquake territory, bu tin no way shape or form are houses build better today. They might be more technologically "advanced", but the old victorians/tudors of the early to mid 1900's had much "better bones" and had actual design.
Hell even old houses made of wood/lumber could still be really nice. Check out this 1894 Victorian. Would take it any day of the week over some slop McMansion
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/67-Jayne-Ave-Patchogue-NY-11772/59443905_zpid/
Hell even old houses made of wood/lumber could still be really nice. Check out this 1894 Victorian. Would take it any day of the week over some slop McMansion
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/67-Jayne-Ave-Patchogue-NY-11772/59443905_zpid/
I kept the original tin ceiling too shit is 🔥 looking
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Originally Posted By Waingro⏩
lol @ inspections. It’s all who you know and pay off
Sure it did pal...houses have about dozen inspections to go through, all designed by engineers. Meanwhile your little favelas get put up by retards with no oversight. That's what makes you the TURD WORLD
I’m doing a commercial build out now and the architects missed one important step for the kitchen and now the owner is scrambling trying to figure out to fit a make up air in the ceiling. There’s literally no room and the pipes have to be welded together so you can’t piece them together up there
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It's time for automation and robots building things with laser precision while a highly experienced foreman supervises. Can't wait
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Was the architect suave2000?
lol @ inspections. It’s all who you know and pay off
I’m doing a commercial build out now and the architects missed one important step for the kitchen and now the owner is scrambling trying to figure out to fit a make up air in the ceiling. There’s literally no room and the pipes have to be welded together so you can’t piece them together up there
I’m doing a commercial build out now and the architects missed one important step for the kitchen and now the owner is scrambling trying to figure out to fit a make up air in the ceiling. There’s literally no room and the pipes have to be welded together so you can’t piece them together up there
02-11-2026, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
A tradie was just telling me the other day about working on an old house and how you almost needed to drill holes in the wood to drive a nail/screw into it because the wood was so much better.
When I was redoing my kitchen the old wood from the 1800s was chewing up my recip saw blades. Those iron nails are thick af too. New wood I can literally cut with a Dremel lol
I kept the original tin ceiling too shit is 🔥 looking
I kept the original tin ceiling too shit is 🔥 looking
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