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post 10000152017 05-04-2026, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩


Guess what the average price of gas is in Palm Beach right now?


Was 4.50 here over the weekend, 4.90 today
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He might actually be worse than Biden
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I’m growing increasingly troubled by Trump’s direction. Ever since his 2nd term has become consumed by Epstein and Iran, it’s felt like we’re headed down a dark path. The midterms are already cooked. The GOP will be DOA in November, but Trump still has about 24 months to leave a positive legacy behind.

If he fails to do so (and it will be extraordinarily difficult without a Republican Congress), Trump will be the reason America elects a far left extremist President like AOC in the near future.

The people elected Trump in 2024 as a choice of chaotic good.

Unless things change, the next President will be chaotic evil.

The right needs to come to a realization that when economic inequality and social distrust grows out of control, people historically turn towards radical change, and revolutionaries capitalize on it. This has already happened in New York on a very small scale with Mamdani’s victory. I’m not saying America will turn commie overnight, but an Obama-like figure with a vengeful desire to speedrun our nation’s demise is a legitimate danger.

Trump needs to wake up.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
I’m growing increasingly troubled by Trump’s direction. Ever since his 2nd term has become consumed by Epstein and Iran, it’s felt like we’re headed down a dark path. The midterms are already cooked. The GOP will be DOA in November, but Trump still has about 24 months to leave a positive legacy behind.

If he fails to do so (and it will be extraordinarily difficult without a Republican Congress), Trump will be the reason America elects a far left extremist President like AOC in the near future.

The people elected Trump in 2024 as a choice of chaotic good.

Unless things change, the next President will be chaotic evil.

The right needs to come to a realization that when economic inequality and social distrust grows out of control, people historically turn towards radical change, and revolutionaries capitalize on it. This has already happened in New York on a very small scale with Mamdani’s victory. I’m not saying America will turn commie overnight, but an Obama-like figure with a vengeful desire to speedrun our nation’s demise is a legitimate danger.

Trump needs to wake up.
He told Candace, Rogan, Tucker and alex jones to go fuck themselves and embraced ben shapiro josh hammer and mark levin. Unfortunately he's cooked
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post 10000152053 05-04-2026, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
He might actually be worse than Biden
The stuff he's doing on the domestic side is chefs kiss. I mean no mass deportations sucks but president vance could have fixed that. Instead of that timeline though we're looking at all 3 branches controlled by people that will throw you in jail for saying there are 2 genders
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
I’m growing increasingly troubled by Trump’s direction. Ever since his 2nd term has become consumed by Epstein and Iran, it’s felt like we’re headed down a dark path. The midterms are already cooked. The GOP will be DOA in November, but Trump still has about 24 months to leave a positive legacy behind.

If he fails to do so (and it will be extraordinarily difficult without a Republican Congress), Trump will be the reason America elects a far left extremist President like AOC in the near future.

The people elected Trump in 2024 as a choice of chaotic good.

Unless things change, the next President will be chaotic evil.

The right needs to come to a realization that when economic inequality and social distrust grows out of control, people historically turn towards radical change, and revolutionaries capitalize on it. This has already happened in New York on a very small scale with Mamdani’s victory. I’m not saying America will turn commie overnight, but an Obama-like figure with a vengeful desire to speedrun our nation’s demise is a legitimate danger.

Trump needs to wake up.
I was legitimately liking this term up until that government shutdown in September or whenever. It was going way better than his first. Then for some inexplicable reason around that time he decided to start a speed run to tank his presidency. His main campaign messaging was cracking down on immigration and affordability, secure border is great and all, but he massively screwed up deportations and is failing to address the even more severe issue of legal immigration. And his affordability/economy stance is backfiring spectacularly, in the same way it backfired spectacularly on Biden. He is literally taking Bidens exact approach of "actually the economy is great, look at the stonks and the data, you're just too stupid to see it," which ended terribly for the Democrats. I don't think anyone could fix the economy, literally ANYTHING besides "what you're seeing isn't real" would have been a better message.

And Iran is the cherry on top of this chit sundae. If you asked Trumps base who on the Republican side they hated the most over the past decade or so, most probably would have said John McCain for being such a neocon warhawk scumbag, and then Trump goes and fulfills McCain's lifelong neocon wet dream.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
If you understood reality then you'd realize your options were to make a couple concessions to get libertarian support or welcome your liberal overlords

You made your pick one now we all have to live with it
I get the, no new war position, but what concessions would have optimal for you?
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Originally Posted By fishing⏩
Farmers vote democrat, always have. They get a lot of government subsidy.

The more you know
Source?

From what I recall, they overwhelmingly supported Turnph last election.
post 10000152146 05-04-2026, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
I get the, no new war position, but what concessions would have optimal for you?
Im a lot more tolerant to republicans than most independents so im down for whatever as long as vance gets in for 28

For that to happen we needed no wars + deportations, perp walks for corrupt bureaucrats, etc.

Doge for example was hugely popular.

I dont know for sure but i think they would have forgiven a lot of failure if they didnt feel they were being stabbed in the back for israel

I mean ffs if you had to go full boomer neocon retard couldnt it have waited until after the midterms?

Everything about this has been so stupid

What did anyone on the right that isnt literally israel first get out of this? No one can fucking tell me. The one and only winner from this is ben fucking shapiro the never trumper
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
I get the, no new war position, but what concessions would have optimal for you?
My legit question is this, in regards to immigration.


What is the point of still standing by Trump when he threw all continuity for a coherent strategy out the window?


Yea, he's plugged the border up, and enforced it with executive action.


But due to the fact he's nuked 2028 with his mishandling of the economy and selling out to Israeli interests, it entails that the borders are going to be fully open again in a couple more years.


All executive action will be reversed, with no way for another Republican to actually get legislation through to have something legally binding.


So, you get a few years of slower illegal immigration, with no deportations, with all that being made up for in 2028, when payback is implemented.


Trump wasn't worried about the borders. In actuality, he was more worried about Israels borders, as well as as subsidizing their imperium in the ME, and strengthening their social programs (main one being healthcare).


The 1.5 trillion military budget is just a giant subsidy for Israel, given all the resources are sucked up in the ME.


If Trump was MAGA he would have reduced the military budget by a 1/2 trillion, created a fortress strategy (which is what real MAGA looks like), and started to look at infrastructure and improving social programs here.


Combine that with building up for a coherent strategy on immigration going into 2028, taxing the financial economy, while reducing taxes on labor and real productivity. Banking as well could have been used to resurrect manufacturing in America.


But all that Trump did was apply tariffs with no strategy, and continue to run deficits for global conquest.


I don't understand the logic for people still standing behind Trump for a less than half ass attempt of temporarily putting a halt of outside migration.


Dude is the furthest thing away from America first.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Im a lot more tolerant to eepublicans than most independents so im down for whatever as long as vance gets in for 28

For that to happen we needed no wars + deportations, perp walks for corrupt bureaucrats, etc.

Doge for example was hugely popular.

I mean ffs if you had to go full boomer neocon retard couldnt it have waited until after the midterms?

Everything about this has been so stupid

What did anyone on the right that isnt literally israel first get out of this? No one can fucking tell me. The one and only winner from this is ben fucking shapiro the never trumper
Pretty sure Vance is going to be Israel first too.
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Pretty sure Vance is going to be Israel first too.
He and tulsi are the only ones left telling trump this is retarded.

By 2028 it wont matter though. Israel wont be a political force by then.

I'd bet donuts to dollars the next dem nominee will be openly anti israel
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Pretty sure Vance is going to be Israel first too.
I think he'd be a supporter of Israel but I don't think he would have bombed Iran. Regardless of what you think of him he's a pretty smart guy and he seems to understand Trumps base a lot better than Trump himself does, and even if he did want to bomb Iran, I don't think he would because he knows that doing so is political rope fuel.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
He and tulsi are the only ones left telling trump this is retarded.

By 2028 it wont matter though. Israel wont be a political force by then.

I'd bet donuts to dollars the next dem nominee will be openly anti israel
The next Dem is going to be highly anti Israel, and that is a giant buying point for Dems. Look at what is going on in Maine. You have a guy with a Nazi tattoo that is skyrocketing in polling, taking out establishment candidates.


Vance was always pro Israel, and Tulsi is obviously a sell out. She should have stood by her principles, but caved into Trump retarded shyt, and got destroyed by Congress for contradicting Trump, then siding with him, and proving the DNI position is utterly useless (could be a good thing).


Trump is Israels last stand, and he is going to defend that position until his term is over.


Vance doesn't have a shot at 2028.


Originally Posted By John
I think he'd be a supporter of Israel but I don't think he would have bombed Iran. Regardless of what you think of him he's a pretty smart guy and he seems to understand Trumps base a lot better than Trump himself does, and even if he did want to bomb Iran, I don't think he would because he knows that doing so is political rope fuel.
He's a low charisma guy who isn't sellable as a general candidate. Somebody like Newsom would wipe the floor with him. He's a Silicon Valley shill. Deep State as it gets. He's fully backed by Palantir, which is a technocracy cult.
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post 10000152178 05-04-2026, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
The next Dem is going to be highly anti Israel, and that is a giant buying point for Dems. Look at what is going on in Maine. You have a guy with a Nazi tattoo that is skyrocketing in polling, taking out establishment candidates.


Vance was always pro Israel, and Tulsi is obviously a sell out. She should have stood by her principles, but caved into Trump retarded shyt, and got destroyed by Congress for contradicting Trump, then siding with him, and proving the DNI position is utterly useless (could be a good thing).


Trump is Israels last stand, and he is going to defend that position until his term is over.


Vance doesn't have a shot at 2028.


He's a low charisma guy who isn't sellable as a general candidate. Somebody like Newsom would wipe the floor with him. He's a Silicon Valley shill. Deep State as it gets. He's fully backed by Palantir, which is a technocracy cult.
See now I think Newsom is a trash national candidate who would struggle BIGLY in the rust belt, and if Trump wasn't such a disaster right now I'd definitely favor Vance over him, but with how badly Trump is tanking right now along with Vance not distancing himself, yeah Newsom would win.
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It’s a shame that guy in PA missed
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Originally Posted By John
See now I think Newsom is a trash national candidate who would struggle BIGLY in the rust belt, and if Trump wasn't such a disaster right now I'd definitely favor Vance over him, but with how badly Trump is tanking right now along with Vance not distancing himself, yeah Newsom would win.
Not at all. If you look at politics its always the guys with the most charisma that win general elections. Autistic policy discussions go right out the door.


Look at all elections over the decades. Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. These people were all highly charismatic.


Biden beating Trump is just a testament as to how bad of a candidate he actually was. The world went into the absolute shitter after Covid.


That obviously wasn't Trump's fault per se, but he didn't handle it well at all, causing the worst inflation crisis since LBJ and Nixon. And now he is right back where he left off with this ZioWar.


When you look at Trump with an objective lense he is absolutely one of the worst presidents this country has ever experienced.
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I mean, look at how pathetic this is lol.


Trump just continues to double down on his MIGA stance.


Trump Renews Call For Israel To Pardon Teflon Bibi, The "Wartime Prime Minister"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-renews-call-israel-pardon-teflon-bibi-wartime-prime-minister


He's like a giant psyop to make sure the GOP is buried, and all the populism that came with him goes right with it.


If he gave all this effort to MAGA he'd be in a way better position, and we would still have $2.77 gas prices.


He's a conman, and controlled opposition.
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I'll make the call right now - Trump gets ethered in midterms and immediately gets removed. They will bring Vance in as a last ditch effort to salvage the 2028 election. Archive this thread for later reference.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
I'll make the call right now - Trump gets ethered in midterms and immediately gets removed. They will bring Vance in as a last ditch effort to salvage the 2028 election. Archive this thread for later reference.
He is.


If he gets ethered as bad as most believe he's getting convicted after impeachment. His polling is tanked.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-disapproval-rate-hits-career-worst-war-and-rising-costs-take-toll


It's going to be career suicide to be affiliated with him.
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Originally Posted By Bonobo⏩
This shit is just sad
He is a complete and utter gigacuck.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Not at all. If you look at politics its always the guys with the most charisma that win general elections. Autistic policy discussions go right out the door.


Look at all elections over the decades. Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. These people were all highly charismatic.


Biden beating Trump is just a testament as to how bad of a candidate he actually was. The world went into the absolute shitter after Covid.


That obviously wasn't Trump's fault per se, but he didn't handle it well at all, causing the worst inflation crisis since LBJ and Nixon. And now he is right back where he left off with this ZioWar.


When you look at Trump with an objective lense he is absolutely one of the worst presidents this country has ever experienced.
Idk I’m just not seeing it with Newsom, maybe it’s just me. I don’t think he’s charismatic. He was basically DeSantis level charisma when they debated and every other time I’ve heart him talk I just don’t see it. On old misc a lot of people were worried that Trump would have been stomped in 24 if Newsom stepped in but I think Newsom would have lost too. Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump all mog him in charisma department. Prime Biden does too, honestly. But yes as of right now he’d win against Vance, but that would be in spite of his charisma, not because if it imo. A Vance this connected to Trump, as of right now, simply isn’t winning.

I will say that it would have been political suicide for Trump to come out against the Covid drunken sailor spending at the time, but I guess it didn’t matter in the end since he lost anyway. He might as well if came out against it and then told everyone “I told you so” a few years later.

Trump, if you look at his first term and ignore all the controversy/noise that surrounds him was just a middling president. Then this term started out promising, but hoo boy did that change.
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Originally Posted By John
most probably would have said John McCain for being such a neocon warhawk scumbag, and then Trump goes and fulfills McCain's lifelong neocon wet dream.
It’s the twilight zone.
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Trump lied and conservatards believed him???


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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Im a lot more tolerant to republicans than most independents so im down for whatever as long as vance gets in for 28

The nutter Peter Thiel may as well get up and make Vance's inauguration speech for him.

I would have thought some of you might have learned this very simple lesson over the last couple of years... STOP VOTING FOR FUCKING LUNATICS.
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
Imagine raging that Trump hasn't cut energy prices while sitting it out when Biden was in the process of ending American sovereignty.

Holy shit.

PS, dont steal Nitros lines. :)
he can only emulate, never duplicate.

he makes me sad.
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Originally Posted By John
I mean I don't care about the lies about fixing the economy or lowering prices because I knew going in that it was all campaign banter. No one's going to fix the economy or lower prices srs.

Turning into John McCain Jr was a blow though. So was basically quitting on the mass deportations.

Yes the border is infinitely better than under Biden but going full neocon in return is just going to give Dems a mandate going into 2028.
when did he quite on mas deportations?
30k deportations a month isn't enough for you?
what number is. srs?
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
The nutter Peter Thiel may as well get up and make Vance's inauguration speech for him.

I would have thought some of you might have learned this very simple lesson over the last couple of years... STOP VOTING FOR FUCKING LUNATICS.
Didn't your country's political lunatics install some of the most restrictive covid laws on earth?
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
when did he quite on mas deportations?
30k deportations a month isn't enough for you?
what number is. srs?
While you seem able to cope with the disappointment by moving the goal posts, I think a lot of Trumpers were expecting something more than a return to Obama era numbers.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
While you seem able to cope with the disappointment by moving the goal posts, I think a lot of Trumpers were expecting something more than a return to Obama era numbers.
No...

I've always said there was nothing wrong with Barry's number's Tard. Hell, you all on the left were even so proud of him that you named him "Deporter in Chief" and celebrated hard AF when he gave Tom Homan a medal for all the good work he did in flushing the illegal turds.

Fast forward to 2016-2020 though and deporting illegals was bad for some reason lol.

But hell... there's nothing wrong with these numbers either.

The most recent interval (56 days ending April 4, 2026) recorded 72,044 total removals, an average of 1,286 per day. The peak so far in the dataset was 1,456 per day in late January 2026. The trend over the past several months has been roughly flat in the 1,250–1,400 range, which is where it has been since late summer 2025.Through the first six months of of FY2026 (October 1, 2025 through April 4, 2026), ICE has carried out 234,236 removals.

At the same point in FY2025 (through April 5, 2025), the total was 134,500. At the same point in FY2024 (through April 6, 2024), it was 133,803. In other words, the current administration has deported roughly 74% more people in the same stretch of the fiscal year than either of the two prior years.

Looking back, FY2025 ended with 319,980 total removals; FY2024 ended with 248,739. At the current daily pace of 1,266 per day, FY2026 is on track to exceed 460,000 removals for the full year, nearly 45% more than FY2025 and 85% more than FY2024.

https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-detention-and-deportation-by
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