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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Seen some oil CEOs and other financial experts give reports that this will last well into the year, even if this war ends this month.


Also, let's say this is "temporary" and gas goes drastically down before midterms, which seems to be highly unlikely at this point, but let's say it does. The war in Iran ends. What do you want to see Iran agree to in a deal for you to consider that this was all worth it? The "temporary" economic burden caused by the Iran war
You know the reason the US attacked Iran - Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Iran must agree to stop nuke enrichment and hand over its enriched stockpile.

I never sugar-coated the economic impact of the war. I believe that gas prices will go down some by mid-terms, but probably not pre-war prices. I never used "worth it," either. But, in economic terms it could be an opportunity cost with more efficient logistics and supply and stronger oil and gas strategic partnerships. That will happen if and when this is over.
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Originally Posted By Mark1T
You know the reason the US attacked Iran - Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Iran must agree to stop nuke enrichment and hand over its enriched stockpile.

I never sugar-coated the economic impact of the war. I believe that gas prices will go down some by mid-terms, but probably not pre-war prices. I never used "worth it," either. But, in economic terms it could be an opportunity cost with more efficient logistics and supply and stronger oil and gas strategic partnerships. That will happen if and when this is over.
Grade A Fox News Boomer slop. Jlmfao
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
Grade A Fox News Boomer slop. Jlmfao
Right. I hope you stand by your permanent position.
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Originally Posted By Mark1T
Right. I hope you stand by your permanent position.
Dude, we’re all here waiting for trump to do something good. A lot of us would do an about face if something good came out of this presidency. It’s looking more and more like this is the end, every day though.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
Dude, we’re all here waiting for trump to do something good. A lot of us would do an about face if something good came out of this presidency. It’s looking more and more like this is the end, every day though.
I am waiting, too dude.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
Dude, we’re all here waiting for trump to do something good. A lot of us would do an about face if something good came out of this presidency. It’s looking more and more like this is the end, every day though.
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Rescheduling marijuana is about as close as you are gonna get and that’s after most states already took action on it.
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Originally Posted By TheChadofGaming
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It would be comical if it weren't so sad and ridiculous. The never trumpers levin and shapiro took over the movement because they got Trump on the payroll. Imagine being a red blooded America, First patriot and siding with Levin and Shapiro to destroy the US economy for Israel. Think about it this way. - Do you think Israel would ever hurt themselves to benefit America? Heeeeellll no
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Originally Posted By Mark1T
You know the reason the US attacked Iran - Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Iran must agree to stop nuke enrichment and hand over its enriched stockpile.

I never sugar-coated the economic impact of the war. I believe that gas prices will go down some by mid-terms, but probably not pre-war prices. I never used "worth it," either. But, in economic terms it could be an opportunity cost with more efficient logistics and supply and stronger oil and gas strategic partnerships. That will happen if and when this is over.
I asked what you want to see Iran agree to in a deal for you to consider if this was all worth it. Because that right now is the back and forth with Trump and Iran... Getting a signed deal to end this (obviously it cant just be any deal that is then painted as a "win"). Clearly, the war didn't go as planned for Trump, so to savage it, whatever deal Trump gets Iran to sign, it's going to need to be good to make this conflict a win

So I guess by the answer you gave (you believe it was started because Iran wants nukes) that would mean for this to all be worth it, for this to be a victory for Trump and for America, Iran is going to need to agree to give up its nuke program/uranium right?


IDK why you got upset in Discord that I didn't reply to you lol. You gave me your answer. Iran needs to give up its nuclear program/uranium for this conflict to be worth it. We'll see if Trump can make it happen
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
I didn't ask what you believe is the reason why the Iran war got started.

I asked what you want to see Iran agree to in a deal for you to consider if this was all worth it. Because that right now is the back and forth with Trump and Iran... Getting a signed deal to end this. Clearly, the war didn't go as planned for Trump, so to savage it, whatever deal Trump gets Iran to sign, it's going to need to be good to make this conflict a win

So I guess by the answer you gave (you believe it was started because Iran wants nukes) that would mean for this to all be worth it, and for this to be a victory for Trump, Iran is going to need to agree to give up its nuke program/uranium right? I guess we will see if Trump can make Iran agree to that.
Iran won't give up their uranium because that's all their leverage. It's a Catch- 22 for them. They give up their Uranium, then they get picked apart by the west until they collapse. They don't give up their uranium., they get attacked by the west for trying to create nuclear weapons, even if they don't have a nuclear weapons program.

They're in the same position as Russia where literally, no matter what they do, they're gonna be attacked by the West. So they're only strategy is to be maximalists in their demands and not back down and just try hold off the US.
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
Iran won't give up their uranium because that's all their leverage. It's a Catch- 22 for them. They give up their Uranium, then they get picked apart by the west until they collapse. They don't give up their uranium., they get attacked by the west for trying to create nuclear weapons, even if they don't have a nuclear weapons program.

They're in the same position as Russia where literally, no matter what they do, they're gonna be attacked by the West. So they're only strategy is to be maximalists in their demands and not back down and just try hold off the US.
Yea, I agree. I believe Iran is going to hold the line on not giving up their uranium. Could be wrong, we'll see.

I ask MAGAcels like Mark what he believes is necessary for this conflict to end, that would make all the economic/geopolitical fallout worth it in the end. So it seems like giving up the uranium is a MUST. Since that is the entire reason for the war.

Because I don't want to hear any bullshit later on if Trump signs a deal with Iran and Iran still gets to keep the uranium, and then they parrot it as a victory because Trump obviously will. If Trump calls it a victory, MAGAcels will call it one, no matter what the deal signed is.

But now I know, the uranium needs to be part of the deal for Mark.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Yea, I agree. I believe Iran is going to hold the line on not giving up their uranium. Could be wrong, we'll see.

I ask MAGAcels like Mark what he believes is necessary for this conflict to end, that would make all the economic fallout worth it in the end. So it seems like giving up the uranium is a MUST.

Because I don't want to hear any bullshit later on if Trump signs a deal with Iran and Iran still gets to keep the uranium, and then they parrot it as a victory because Trump obviously will. If Trump calls it a victory, MAGAcels will call it one, no matter what the deal signed is.

But now I know, the uranium needs to be part of the deal for Mark.
That's just the current line they use to justify what Trump is doing because anybody who actually pays attention knows that Iran is not a suicidal regime that wants to nuke the United States or Israel, and it's actually quite rational in their statecraft. Do these chant stupid shit like death to America? Yes, and it's rhetoric. Just like we use ridiculous rhetoric at times. But the entire justification for the war depends on the US public buying into this hype that Iran would actually use a nuclear weapon were that it have one whhich is entirely untrue. Iran, despite sanctions, has spent decades trying to rebuild their economy for their 90 million people too. Committing mass suicide is not on their agenda despite what Boomer Mark tries to claim, however, nuclear Iran would be a permanent deterrent to Israeli expansion which is the real issue
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
nuclear Iran would be a permanent deterrent to Israeli expansion which is the real issue
Dumbest statement you have ever written.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Yea, I agree. I believe Iran is going to hold the line on not giving up their uranium. Could be wrong, we'll see.

I ask MAGAcels like Mark what he believes is necessary for this conflict to end, that would make all the economic/geopolitical fallout worth it in the end. So it seems like giving up the uranium is a MUST. Since that is the entire reason for the war.

Because I don't want to hear any bullshit later on if Trump signs a deal with Iran and Iran still gets to keep the uranium, and then they parrot it as a victory because Trump obviously will. If Trump calls it a victory, MAGAcels will call it one, no matter what the deal signed is.

But now I know, the uranium needs to be part of the deal for Mark.
You have it all figured out. Not really. Wizardcel.
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Originally Posted By Mark1T
You have it all figured out. Not really. Wizardcel.
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Dumbest statement you have ever written.
That is the most factual thing I've ever said Fox Boomer Con. And the sad thing is, you probably view yourself as being knowledgeable and wise, yet you're completely ignorant of basic israeli strategy and thought. Your actual grasp of geopolitics is infantile.
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This report explores how a nuclear-armed Iran would behave, if it would act aggressively, and what this would entail for the United States and its main regional allies, including the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) and Israel. The Islamic Republic seeks to undermine what it perceives to be the American-dominated order in the Middle East and to deter a U.S. and/or Israeli military attack, but it does not have territorial ambitions and does not seek to invade, conquer, or occupy other nations. Nuclear arms are unlikely to change its fundamental interests and strategies. Rather, they would probably reinforce Iran's traditional national security objectives. The ideological beliefs of the Iranian political elite will not shape the country's nuclear decisionmaking. The regional geopolitical environment and Iran's political, military, and economic capabilities will have a greater bearing on Iranian calculations. It is very unlikely that Iran would use nuclear weapons against another Muslim state or against Israel, given the latter's overwhelming conventional and nuclear military superiority. Further, the Iranian government does not use terrorism for ideological reasons. Instead, Iran's support for terrorism is motivated by cost and benefit calculations, with the aims of maintaining deterrence and preserving or expanding its influence in the Middle East. An inadvertent or accidental nuclear exchange between Israel and Iran is a dangerous possibility, but there is not much evidence to suggest that rogue elements could have easy access to Iranian nuclear weapons.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR310.html





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Originally Posted By TheChadofGaming
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Pedo Mark embarrassing himself in yet another thread I see.
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It's well established that Israel's goal is to take over the Middle East. But of course, they need help to do so, which is why they've gotten so much leverage over the US over generations financially and probably with other things we normies don't even have concepts of. But Epstein was just an example of the stuff that likely goes on.

Anyone who thinks this is about nukes is as stupid as the people who believed that there were WMDs in Iraq.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Yea, I agree. I believe Iran is going to hold the line on not giving up their uranium. Could be wrong, we'll see.

Originally Posted By Mark1T
You have it all figured out. Not really. Wizardcel.


https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/supreme-leader-says-enriched-uranium-must-stay-iran-iranian-sources-say-2026-05-21/

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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
It's well established that Israel's goal is to take over the Middle East. But of course, they need help to do so, which is why they've gotten so much leverage over the US over generations financially and probably with other things we normies don't even have concepts of. But Epstein was just an example of the stuff that likely goes on.

Anyone who thinks this is about nukes is as stupid as the people who believed that there were WMDs in Iraq.
I mean, israeli officials say it every other day. Imagine the mentally warped state of delusion you have to live in to be a grown man and believe that we did this because of weapons of mass destruction. Netanyahu came out and said he's been wanting this war for forty years. But here's what's really annoying. We're giving Mark the information, we're providing links and statements, but he will still hold on to his Fox News Boomercon talking point and think he's some sort of profound intellectual informing us. He literally has no clue what he's talking about.
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You can tell Pedo Boomer Mark was one of those that still believed the Iraq WMD propaganda even a decade after the invasion. And probably thought it was validated by outdated decayed munitions found underground that were leftover from the 1980s.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel


https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/supreme-leader-says-enriched-uranium-must-stay-iran-iranian-sources-say-2026-05-21/
Be honest, who ya rooten for in that pic??

How outraged would you and the Bonobos of the world be if Iran did completely concede and gave up their uranium. ;)
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Be honest, who ya rooten for in that pic??

How outraged would you and the Bonobos of the world be if Iran did completely concede and gave up their uranium. ;)
Did this really all you have? Sheesh.
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Be honest, who ya rooten for in that pic??

How outraged would you and the Bonobos of the world be if Iran did completely concede and gave up their uranium. ;)
Im not rooting for Iran... Im pointing out the reality of the situation instead of looking at it through rose-tinted glasses and pretending everything is sunshine and roses...

Trump got America into a difficult spot. Clearly, the Iran war didn't go as planned. Regime didn't get replaced, in fact, hardliners are now in charge who refuse to budge, strait that was opened since forever is now closed off, causing economic damage, and it appears Iran will be charging for it in the future, the uranium that Trump claims is the reason for starting this conflict is still in Iran...

If Trump cant get Iran to give up its uranium and open up the strait like it was before this conflict... America gets a major L on the world stage, thats not good...

If Trump were able to achieve getting the IRGC overthrown in the initial 30 days of heavy strikes and putting in place a Western friendly puppet government, I would have given him all the praise in the world because that would be a HUGE achievement for American geopolitics... But its not what happened, things have backfired, and the way its looking right now, it seems like it would have been better if Trump didnt get the U.S. involved in this war...
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Im not rooting for Iran... Im pointing out the reality of the situation instead of looking at it through rose-tinted glasses and pretending everything is sunshine and roses...

Trump got America into a difficult spot. Clearly, the Iran war didn't go as planned. Regime didn't get replaced, in fact, hardliners are now in charge who refuse to budge, strait that was opened since forever is now closed off, causing economic damage, and it appears Iran will be charging for it in the future, the Uranium that Trump claims is reason for starting this conflict is still in Iran...

If Trump cant get Iran to give up its uranium and open up the strait like it was before this conflict... America gets a major L on the world stage, thats not good...

If Trump were able to achieve getting the IRGC overthrown in the initial 30 days of heavy strikes and putting in place a Western friendly puppet government, I would have given him all the praise in the world because that would be a HUGE achievement for American geopolitics... But its not what happened, things have backfired, and the way its looking right now, it seems like it would have been better if Trump didnt get the U.S. involved in this war...
Its not even worth a serious response. Accusinh people of being traitirrs are rooting for the enemy is a cheap and pathetic tactic used by people who can't actually debate the issue. Plus, i'm certain he's trolling because he knows better
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If this ends up being true, then umm, what was achieved? What was the point of the war
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel





If this ends up being true, then umm, what was achieved? What was the point of the war
Where’s the part about uranium? I can’t seem to even find that word in the proposal. Is it under an alias?

Hilarious all the people who said they’d “never fall for it again” ended up falling for “WMDs Part Deux.” And invading Iraq 23 years ago is what allowed Iran to get stronger to begin with since Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was a way to keep Iran in check.
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