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Thread: Can the fitness community STOP encouraging deadlifts/compounds?

post 1483722431 02-15-2017, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando⏩
Training for a comp and grumpy AF, no one should feel as sore and torn as I feel right now lol

OP just struck a chord at the wrong time
"Training for a comp"

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post 1483722581 02-15-2017, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Friendly300⏩
You mad brah?
Not at all lol.
post 1483722721 02-15-2017, 07:48 PM
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TBH OP should just do 1 rep of belly flops off the roof of his gym after making threads like this.
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post 1483722801 02-15-2017, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
How about you stop encouraging people to be pussies OP.

Because that is exactly what this thread is doing.
Would rather see all gym goers that don't know how to do compounds to be "pussies" and save themselves back issues then.
post 1483723081 02-15-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Friendly300⏩
lol I know that feel

I got heavy squats with high volume (and high volume assistance work) programmed every day until next saturday
I'm running Sheiko #29, Monday I did 34 sets. Took 2 hours and I could barely keep my preworkout down, was having dry heaves with like 285 on my back.

ITT we now ignore OP and discuss the merits of heavy compounds.
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post 1483723401 02-15-2017, 07:54 PM
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Can confirm OP. This dumb sloot on my ******** just uploaded a video of her 305lb PR deadlift, and her back is arched the entire time. My back almost snapped just watching her.
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post 1483723651 02-15-2017, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando⏩
I did 13 sets of heavy deadlifts today, tempted to put you in the red for this thread title jackass
mogged.

But 13 sets though? Couldn't have been all that heavy for you. Or do you mean just generally heavy?
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post 1483724281 02-15-2017, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By WeedWizard420⏩
mogged.

But 13 sets though? Couldn't have been all that heavy for you.
VERY heavy, but low rep. Top set was 4 reps.
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post 1483724531 02-15-2017, 08:03 PM
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if you aren't going to do compounds then don't go to the gym
post 1483724701 02-15-2017, 08:05 PM
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post 1483724781 02-15-2017, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By NoDestroyingMe⏩
Come at me brah!
Lulz.

That little kid walks around like 80% of my DYEL gym.
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post 1483724971 02-15-2017, 08:07 PM
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If you don't either squat or deadlift you should just hand in your man card now.
post 1483725151 02-15-2017, 08:08 PM
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It doesn't matter what your form is like, all compound exercises leads to injury. You can't name a single bodybuilder that hasn't been injured.
post 1483725321 02-15-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Flapjacko⏩
It doesn't matter what your form is like, all compound exercises leads to injury. You can't name a single bodybuilder that hasn't been injured.
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post 1483726721 02-15-2017, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted By cloudstrife1218⏩
sigh.

compound exercises should be the core of any persons routine bro. If you see someone about to hurt themselves, intervene. IF they take the advice, great, if not, well its their loss.

It's not the exercise that needs to go, it's idiots who don't know how to lift, or are too hard headed to seek help that need to go.

You're probably a liberal too, huh?
And people that wanna go too heavy before they learn. I had to drop my dl weight even though I could "lift" a lot more. My si joint would always hurt after though at high weight :/
Felt like a badass ...but not the next day lol
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post 1483727701 02-15-2017, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Flapjacko⏩
It doesn't matter what your form is like, all compound exercises leads to injury. You can't name a single bodybuilder that hasn't been injured.
Doesn't matter how you cook it, all food contains calories yet you still can't name a single vegetable.
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post 1483728301 02-15-2017, 08:32 PM
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i wish everyone would come here from the powerlifting section because they'd tear OP a new ass.

OP is a *******.
post 1483728461 02-15-2017, 08:33 PM
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Doing compounds with chitty form is the new "machines". All the noobs do it, yet, hardly anyone can do ATG squats, touch their chest on bench, have a neutral spine on deads.

Only thing is that machines were safer, and prevented a herniated disc.

I think the issue is more with the obsession with numbers rather than the exercise itself. Everyone wants to show that they can dead lmao4pl8 within 3 months so they can show off on ********/insta. If they take it slow and easy, there will be much less issues with this.

Form shaming needs to happen. Everyone whose back is rounded, or doesn't squat till their hips break their knees, or doesn't touch his chest during bench needs to be mercilessly ridiculed in the gym on the spot.
post 1483728561 02-15-2017, 08:33 PM
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No thanks ******* I'll continue to squat, bench and deadlift.
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post 1483729101 02-15-2017, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando⏩
I'm running Sheiko #29, Monday I did 34 sets. Took 2 hours and I could barely keep my preworkout down, was having dry heaves with like 285 on my back.

ITT we now ignore OP and discuss the merits of heavy compounds.
sheiko is brutal, finished the 12 week cycle (29, 30, 32 or something like that) in january
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post 1483729731 02-15-2017, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By carlostherock⏩
sheiko is brutal, finished the 12 week cycle (29, 30, 32 or something like that) in january
how did it impact your 1RMs?

I'm shooting for a 335 bench, 405 squat and 475 dead for a comp in April at 181. Current #'s are 325, 350, 420

Got some work to do.
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post 1483731761 02-15-2017, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando⏩
how did it impact your 1RMs?

I'm shooting for a 335 bench, 405 squat and 475 dead for a comp in April at 181. Current #'s are 325, 350, 420

Got some work to do.
I actually ran 37, 30, 32 (just checked) . Sadly I only tied my starting squat and bench max and didn't test my deadlift which felt pretty bad during the whole program. Now I am back on Jonnie Candito's 6 week program (and tweaking it) which I have ran several times. I don't think I would do sheiko again. The workouts were too long and infrequent, and though it was fun to try and I learned from it, ultimately the program did not work for me as my lifts stayed the same.

Running program now off lifts 380/280/415 at 150-155 BW
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post 1483732221 02-15-2017, 08:59 PM
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ITT OP got embarrassed by a Chad doing heavy compounds at the gym.




Op on that low-test time.
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post 1483733981 02-15-2017, 09:14 PM
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the big three lifts are the corner stone of lifting...they are going no where


That being said, I dont do any of them. The first 5 years I lifted, on 14 currently, I was big into them and got very strong. As I kept lifting, I started learning my body wasnt meant to do that sh*t. Loving to lift and wanting to be comfortable in my body wasnt going to happen at the same time if I kept it up for over a decade.

NO MATTER WHAT a lifter tells you, you will end up with achy joints, hips, a bad back(bulging discs or maybe slipped), shoulder pains, neck pains...chances increase more and more. Seasoned lifters who have been doing it for 10,20, or 30+ years all have aches and pains they never subside. In fact, its only in the gym do they go away.

I miss strength sometimes but there are so many more benefits to just not doing them.

When I talk to new lifters, I encourage that strong foundation though. The big three are like learning how to spell or do addition and subtraction as a child, its a must.
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy⏩
Not bragging. Just stating I'm doing high volume with the deadlift. As I replied earlier, just started doing high volume with the deadlift and didn't know my limit for 6x5. I'm thinking my true 1RM is somewhere near 375lbs. Maybe 405lbs if I risk it all lol.
Not if srs. Unless you're a midget competing in the 115lbs weight division 375lbs on deads is not something to brag about srs. Pretty sure any normal male should be maxing near three plates easily and that's not far off.
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post 1483735431 02-15-2017, 09:25 PM
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Let's be real. There is no "perfect form" with compounds - only guidelines. Peoples body mechanics are different. Just don't be a dumbass is the main rule
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
Not if srs. Unless you're a midget competing in the 115lbs weight division 375lbs on deads is not something to brag about srs. Pretty sure any normal male should be maxing near three plates easily and that's not far off.
I highly highly highly HIGHLY doubt most guys walking around can deadlift 3 plates. I think sometimes because we workout we become detached from the reality of how weak most guys walking around are. I'm a smaller guy and I'd say I'm stronger overall than 80% of non lifters in every way shape and form no matter their weight.
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Originally Posted By Zerafian⏩
the big three lifts are the corner stone of lifting...they are going no where


That being said, I dont do any of them. The first 5 years I lifted, on 14 currently, I was big into them and got very strong. As I kept lifting, I started learning my body wasnt meant to do that sh*t. Loving to lift and wanting to be comfortable in my body wasnt going to happen at the same time if I kept it up for over a decade.

NO MATTER WHAT a lifter tells you, you will end up with achy joints, hips, a bad back(bulging discs or maybe slipped), shoulder pains, neck pains...chances increase more and more. Seasoned lifters who have been doing it for 10,20, or 30+ years all have aches and pains they never subside. In fact, its only in the gym do they go away.

I miss strength sometimes but there are so many more benefits to just not doing them.

When I talk to new lifters, I encourage that strong foundation though. The big three are like learning how to spell or do addition and subtraction as a child, its a must.
There is nothing special or magical about the big 3. Flat barbell isnt some special excercise that will yield greater results that flat or incline dumbells. Same with squat compared to front squats or hacks. Deadlift is great for lower back and that it hits so many muscles, but its not absolutely necessary.

Like you said as you get stronger and as you get smarter you find yourself doing the big 3 less and less. I do legs monday and friday. Im not squatting both days week after week. Thats simply not needed to grow my legs. Hacks, lunges, leg press and other excercises are just as good.

This forum has an absolutely toxic mindset when it comes to lifting. Machines, smith machine, and isolation excercises are all great tools to use in order to help you get bigger. They all have their uses and benefits, you would think a bodybuilding forum would realize this. Its no wonder some many on thi site are dyel
post 1483736221 02-15-2017, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By carlostherock⏩
I actually ran 37, 30, 32 (just checked) . Sadly I only tied my starting squat and bench max and didn't test my deadlift which felt pretty bad during the whole program. Now I am back on Jonnie Candito's 6 week program (and tweaking it) which I have ran several times. I don't think I would do sheiko again. The workouts were too long and infrequent
I tried the Candito but with my old joints and tendons it was simply too much volume without enough recovery time. The forced days off with Sheiko have kept me concentrating on stretching my achey bicep tendons which has been a Godsend for my tendonitis. To each his own I guess.

But those dangerous compounds tho

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post 1483736321 02-15-2017, 09:33 PM
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dont fkn correct retards at the gym let them snap their back. It puts you ahead of them, if you show them correct form they might become bigger than you and more aesthetic.
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