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post 1485828071 03-03-2017, 06:11 PM
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post 1485828211 03-03-2017, 06:13 PM
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post 1485828271 03-03-2017, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
Maybe it's the bleeding heart in me, but if that girl has been living here for 13 years, that's not her fault she and neither should her dad and mother be deported just based on humanitarian grounds. Obviously what the dad did wasnt right, but I think the fairest thing would be is for him to pay a hefty fine or be deported after the girl is 18.

I dont know brehs, stuff like this is obviously more than black and white. Note - tightening down borders and stopping illegal immigration is absolutely an important thing, but I think it gets more complicated if they dont have a criminal past / have a family and seem like decent people.


Obviously Obama did this chit too but I'm just putting in a general thought about this issue.
Humanitarian? it's just Mexico

Not like they're being deported to a warzone or into the middle of a desert that has no water or food... It's Mexico, people already live there - 122 million of them
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post 1485828341 03-03-2017, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
You are part of the problem. You are part of the reason there is 20 million illegal aliens ( at least) in America. Stealing everyday from citizens.

You cannot have sympathy for individuals that break federal law and their offspring which continue the federal crime. Without borders and citizenship what is the point of a "nation" ?
Seems like the law that turns babies born in the US be given automatic citizenship should be repealed first because that would deter people coming in and having babies just so that their child would be a citizen.

Obviously a country should strengthen their borders and not allow illegals to enter without proper documents.
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post 1485828381 03-03-2017, 06:15 PM
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the dems are going apechit because their whole voting base is getting removed

post 1485828501 03-03-2017, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By lolwhatthefuk⏩
good. the daughter shouldn't be a citizen if thry came here to pop her out illegally. I love how the media didn't report on Obama doing the same thing . media bias
If you're born here you're a citizen, that simple.
post 1485828591 03-03-2017, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
Seems like the law that turns babies born in the US be given automatic citizenship should be repealed first because that would deter people coming in and having babies just so that their child would be a citizen.

Obviously a country should strengthen their borders and not allow illegals to enter without proper documents.
I don't believe there even is a legal standing to have ever given the offspring of illegal aliens citizenship. It was a horrific twist, an absurd later interpretation, to American law. A perversion.
post 1485828651 03-03-2017, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
I don't believe there even is a legal standing to have ever given the offspring of illegal aliens citizenship. It was a horrific twist to American law. A perversion.
It's in the constitution, 14th amendment
post 1485828721 03-03-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
If you're born here you're a citizen, that simple.
No it's not. There is no true basis for that phony "law"
post 1485828761 03-03-2017, 06:18 PM
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If you're in a country illegally, wtf would you drink drive?

Good thing they're getting rid of him.
post 1485828801 03-03-2017, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
No it's not. There is no true basis for that phony "law"
Wrong, see above.
post 1485829201 03-03-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Adnim⏩
For now.....
Constitutional amendments are pretty hard to pass ....
post 1485829261 03-03-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By StiffSproles⏩
FINALLY, we are actually ENFORCING OUR EXISTING LAWS.

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this is why i voted for trump.
post 1485830321 03-03-2017, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Adnim⏩
What do you have against Mexico tho? You're basically saying Mexico/Mexicans are so awful, that going home to their own people is basically the same thing as a prison sentence. If I go to Mexico illegally with my wife and child and we get deported after ten years, are you going to say how awful it is that we have to go home?


For now.....
a lot of immigrants actually end up assimilating despite that they may have come only to work and go back home. Your country ends up becoming their home and the only culture they know. For all we know that little girl might not even know Spanish and has likely never been to Mexico.

I'm sure your family wouldn't be too happy about being uprooted from your home.

Sure you could claim that it was illegal for them to cross the border but after ten years I'm sure some statute of limitations apply lmao... crossing the border isn't murder or rape.

I can understand being against illegal immigration but this isn't right man.
post 1485830431 03-03-2017, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
It's in the constitution, 14th amendment
Research " 14th amendment does allow anchor babies" or similar.
post 1485830551 03-03-2017, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By godownfighting⏩
the dems are going apechit because their whole voting base is getting removed

Implying they don't somehow get votes from across the border.....
post 1485830561 03-03-2017, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Wrong, see above.
Research "14th amendment does not allow anchor babies" or similar
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Originally Posted By AGstrong⏩
a lot of immigrants actually end up assimilating despite that they may have come only to work and go back home. Your country ends up becoming their home and the only culture they know. For all we know that little girl might not even know Spanish and has likely never been to Mexico.

I'm sure your family wouldn't be too happy about being uprooted from your home.

Sure you could claim that it was illegal for them to cross the border but after ten years I'm sure some statute of limitations apply lmao... crossing the border isn't murder or rape.

I can understand being against illegal immigration but this isn't right man.
A Canadian and a Muslim. Thanks for your input on American federal law, national security and culture.
post 1485830881 03-03-2017, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
Research "14th amendment does not allow anchor babies" or similar
If you're born here you're a citizen, anchor baby is something different
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
If you're born here you're a citizen, anchor baby is something different
I say if an illegal comes and gives birth that kid goes into foster care and the parents go back. Itll stop the anchor baby fad real quick
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
If you're born here you're a citizen, anchor baby is something different
Anchor baby is when an illegal alien has a child here in America and uses that as an excuse to to stay. They are not citizens. They are considered citizens by the very same people that have been steadily destroying our nation by creating illegal laws, ignoring or reinterpretating our existing laws.


Edit- throw out all illegal aliens and their offspring. A nation has laws, borders and a culture. Those things cannot be ignored if it is to survive and be strong.
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Originally Posted By Adnim⏩
We'll see about that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty...s_Constitution




It doesn't matter if they're here for 100 years illegally. They have no right to be here.
Lol @ saying "their daughter might not know Spanish". That's funny.
why is that funny? If she was born and raised in America, why would be it be assumed that she knows anything but English?


They might not have a legal, constitutional, w.e right to be in your country but that doesn't make it right to kick people out of the country they have lived in for 10/20/30+years...
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
Anchor baby is when an illegal alien has a child here in America and uses that as an excuse to to stay. They are not citizens. They are considered citizens by the very same people that have been steadily destroying our nation by creating, ignoring or by reinterpretations of our laws.
There is no constitutional right for the parents to stay.

Do you know the history of the 14 and this citizenship clause? It was to end slavery, are you against that?
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If you quit your job 12 hours a day south of the border to work 7 hours a day in America, you are lazy as fuark.


Let alone not working, collecting welfare instead with your anchor baby.
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Originally Posted By AGstrong⏩
a lot of immigrants actually end up assimilating despite that they may have come only to work and go back home. Your country ends up becoming their home and the only culture they know. For all we know that little girl might not even know Spanish and has likely never been to Mexico.

I'm sure your family wouldn't be too happy about being uprooted from your home.

Sure you could claim that it was illegal for them to cross the border but after ten years I'm sure some statute of limitations apply lmao... crossing the border isn't murder or rape.

I can understand being against illegal immigration but this isn't right man.
Sucks for the kid yeah, but blame daddy not the government

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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
There is no constitutional right for the parents to stay.

Do you know the history of the 14 and this citizenship clause? It was to end slavery, are you against that?
Exactly it was for slaves to be considered citizens. Not illegal aliens coming over for the specific reason of having their child here to gain citizenship for the child and permanent residency for themselves. It is a horrific twisting of American law that has been used to flood our nation.
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"multiple prior criminal convictions, including a DUI in 2009, as well an outstanding order of removal dating back to 2014."

L.A. is also a sanctuary city so this guy had to really mess up to get busted.

They make it out like he was just a hard working family man minding his own business taking his kids to school. he is not that. he might be their dad but he is also a criminal with multiple criminal convictions.

I suppose we are just supposed to gloss over that because, uh, Trump is hitler.

Pro tip- if you dont want to get arrested, dont commit crimes.
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Originally Posted By AGstrong⏩
why is that funny? If she was born and raised in America, why would be it be assumed that she knows anything but English?


They might not have a legal, constitutional, w.e right to be in your country but that doesn't make it right to kick people out of the country they have lived in for 10/20/30+years...
Might not have legal, constitutional, etc right to be here.

But it's not ok to kick them out? Lol
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
Exactly it was for slaves to be considered citizens. Not illegal aliens coming over for the specific reason of having their child here to gain citizenship for the child and permanent residency for themselves. It is a horrific twisting of American law that has been used to flood our nation.
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