So here's what you do.


Say you make $50,000/year right now.

Try to outsell the people in your office, or your region, whatever. Just do something notable that you can put on a resume "outperformed whole office X month" or something maybe a bit more modest but still boasting on a resume. "Top performance for April, May, and August 2017".

You get the idea.

Build a LinkedIn, after you have a bit of experience and some good stuff to put on a resume, start messaging recruiters and networking, apply for a job and negotiate an income that's not $50k, but $80k/year.

Lie a little bit and say you make $65k, very unlikely they will check your W2. Or say you have competing offers for $80k, that you like them more but they need to match for you to feel comfortable and accept.

Rinse and repeat that method but not $80k, this time go for $110k.

Rinse and repeat to $135k.

Rinse and repeat to $155k.

...

...


Profit (serious)

This is more realistic than people imagine.

Either A) along the line you'll find a great company that you actually want to grow within or

B) you'll eventually get to a great income and then you can try different companies.

You just have to make sure you're in a good vertical, as in say... software sales. Then get even more niche, say software security sales. It's not abnormal to find jobs for above $150,000/year in software sales, at all. In fact, the right company will surpass $200,000/year, some jobs even surpass $300,000/year. Just always act professional, calm, modest but ambitious in real life.

If you were red or low reps, you would have been called a liar, *******, and negged

You got the strongest rep/post ratio I've ever seen. Probably why nobody doubting you lol

1. Do you ever think of getting into a different field of sales? I mean outside of software?

2. Would it be difficult for someone to move to a new state and acquire an entry level software sales job?
How would one go about it?

3. Is it fulfilling?

4. I remember you said that you were lucky to get into that field in the first place? Can you remind us again?

they'd see on your resume that you're job hopping and not stable

What kind of software do you sell?

Do you work as an independent contractor, for a sales firm, or directly for the software company who's software you sell?

Why do you make so much? Surely the commission isn't structured in such a way that they expect the average salesman to make $1.5M per year.

I think nobody cares, we've all made it. You're actually poor again

how can i get a job like you op

EDIT: can i make a smooth transition from tech/engineer to a field like this?

Do you ever watch the alec baldwin scene from Glengarry Glenn Ross before a big dales meeting to psyche yourself up?

But srs

You said a PM on the misc changed your life. Change my life sir

Lol. I'm not a manger yet :/ give it time and I may be able to help out more than this thread

okay i'll bite. so you open to helping me get into your industry?

This level sales is actually a lot less "sales-ey" than you'd think. I'm basically just a passer of information, I pass my information about my product to a company, if it helps them make money and makes their lives better, great, they buy. If not, I move along. There's no "sales" technique, just learn how to highlight your strengths, avoid the weaknesses, and most of all just be a trusted advisory to your prospect. It's not like entry level or mid level sales jobs at all.

I'm not in sales, but my approach would be: how can my product improve this company's bottom line? Understand their current processes and associated costs, and just explain how my product can save them money.

You have the fortune of selling a good product it sounds like. Then it's less sales-y, and just more informing.

So here's what you do.


Say you make $50,000/year right now.

Try to outsell the people in your office, or your region, whatever. Just do something notable that you can put on a resume "outperformed whole office X month" or something maybe a bit more modest but still boasting on a resume. "Top performance for April, May, and August 2017".

You get the idea.

Build a LinkedIn, after you have a bit of experience and some good stuff to put on a resume, start messaging recruiters and networking, apply for a job and negotiate an income that's not $50k, but $80k/year.

Lie a little bit and say you make $65k, very unlikely they will check your W2. Or say you have competing offers for $80k, that you like them more but they need to match for you to feel comfortable and accept.

Rinse and repeat that method but not $80k, this time go for $110k.

Rinse and repeat to $135k.

Rinse and repeat to $155k.

...

...


Profit (serious)

This is more realistic than people imagine.

Either A) along the line you'll find a great company that you actually want to grow within or

B) you'll eventually get to a great income and then you can try different companies.

You just have to make sure you're in a good vertical, as in say... software sales. Then get even more niche, say software security sales. It's not abnormal to find jobs for above $150,000/year in software sales, at all. In fact, the right company will surpass $200,000/year, some jobs even surpass $300,000/year. Just always act professional, calm, modest but ambitious in real life.

already in software sells but its slowing up. this is what i made a couple months ago. im at 40% profit. my competitors have been aggressive lately.
i need to pull the plug soon. im a microsoft authorized distributor. can you help me get a job in your field? this is all remote work btw from home.

The odds are very much against you telling the truth but we're on the internet, dont know each other etc so ill bite

Was there a movie or person that motivated you and turned on the lights at some point?

already in software sells but its slowing up. this is what i made a couple months ago. im at 40% profit. my competitors have been aggressive lately.
i need to pull the plug soon. im a microsoft authorized distributor. can you help me get a job in your field? this is all remote work btw from home.

Alright my turn for questions to you guys.

Is it weird that I'm not really buying anything with this paycheck? By far my biggest ever, and I'm unbelievably excited and thankful, but really all i'm doing is saving and investing it.

That's all I ever do. I bought one fancy car for about $65k or so but I'll sell it for $45k and only spend $20k when it's said and done.

Other than that, I don't really do anything. Don't vacation or buy other stuff.

Is that weird? What would you guys do?

I grew up so poor that I have a hard time adjusting I guess. On the other hand, I'm doing it for a smart reason. Compound interest will be kicking big time when I'm in my mid 30s and even more so in my 40s and on.

Alright my turn for questions to you guys.

Is it weird that I'm not really buying anything with this paycheck? By far my biggest ever, and I'm unbelievably excited and thankful, but really all i'm doing is saving and investing it.

That's all I ever do. I bought one fancy car for about $65k or so but I'll sell it for $45k and only spend $20k when it's said and done.

Other than that, I don't really do anything. Don't vacation or buy other stuff.

Is that weird? What would you guys do?

I grew up so poor that I have a hard time adjusting I guess. On the other hand, I'm doing it for a smart reason. Compound interest will be kicking big time when I'm in my mid 30s and even more so in my 40s and on.

lol strong ebay software license keys selling