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post 1514940141 08-08-2017, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By 420Layers⏩
Wut



That's not how math works...
Please explain to me how winning one prize affects his chance of winning another.

Even if it did, everyone had all already won a prize so they would all have be affected by this giving them all an equal chance still. Which is 1/35 because there was 35 people in the draw.
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Originally Posted By 420Layers⏩
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=probability+of+independent+events
Interdasting, it's almost like you don't understand that there are two separate drawings or something.
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You most have posted pics of said sloot to Photobucket. Scrolled all the way down and can't find em.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Please explain to me how winning one prize affects his chance of winning another.

Even if it did, everyone had all already won a prize so they would all have be affected by this giving them all an equal chance still. Which is 1/35 because there was 35 people in the draw.
you can't be srs this is 5th grade math

1/1225 for any one person winning both tvs
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Lmao at the "chance" vs "probability" mixup going on ITT.



OP, what realistic course of action do you have to prove this? If everyone just wrote on scrap paper, there is nothing you can do... Make a better drawing next time, or use the 2-ticket system. Not hard...
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Originally Posted By iceypain⏩
you can't be srs this is 5th grade math
So you are saying despite there only being 35 people there, and one of them has to win the prize, they still all only have a 1/1225 chance of winning each? And you don't see the problem with that statement?
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Go ahead and explain how I'm wrong. You said there was a 35 small prizes, and one big prize, and 35 people so one person gets a small price and a big prize. If that's the way it worked then presumably after each person won a small prize their name was taken out of the draw for the next small prizes, then everyone was back in for the big prize.

Otherwise there would have been a bunch of people with 2-3 small prizes and a bunch with none and that's not how you said it happened.

Therefore, if the small tv was the first small prize drawn he had a one in 35 chance of getting it, but say if there had been a bunch already drawn and there was only 12 small prizes and 12 people left then he would have a one in 12 chance at that specific prize etc
Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
He had a one in 35 chance of winning the big TV draw and a one in 35 or better chance at winning the small tv.

Winning one prize does not affect his chance at winning the other. Everyone there had already won a prize, and they all still had the same one in 35 chance of also winning the big TV.
Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Go read the last portionof the post you quoted again.

The two events are individual, they don't affect eachother. Whoever ended up winning that tv would've already won a prize.

They all had an equal chance, and since there was 35 of them there that chance was 1/35 for every single one of them.

Am I being trolled right now? Not sure if I'm just falling for this because it's 6 in the morning here lmao
Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Please explain to me how winning one prize affects his chance of winning another.

Even if it did, everyone had all already won a prize so they would all have be affected by this giving them all an equal chance still. Which is 1/35 because there was 35 people in the draw.
Fukin lol.
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
Interdasting, it's almost like you don't understand that there are two separate drawings or something.
Derp. He's correct. If you want to find the % of two events happening you multiply. Yes one event is 3% both happening is 1/1225
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Fukin lol.
I'm being trolled hard right now aren't I...
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This is pretty complicated so please read this twice before posting.
Originally Posted By cookiefiend
Go read the last portionof the post you quoted again.
P(AB) = P(A)*P(B)
The two events are individual, they don't affect eachother. Whoever ended up winning that tv would've already won a prize.
No. The P(A) and P(B) are independent. The P(AB) is dependent. The probably of getting heads twice is not 50% even though the probability of flip 1 (a) is 50% and the probability of flip 2 (b) is 50%. The probability of (AB) is 50% * 50%.
They all had an equal chance, and since there was 35 of them there that chance was 1/35 for every single one of them.
I'm not a math expert like you are but I believe 1/35 and 1/35 are equal.
Am I being trolled right now? Not sure if I'm just falling for this because it's 6 in the morning here lmao
Yes. I morphed the concept of probability just to troll you.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
So you are saying despite there only being 35 people there, and one of them has to win the prize, they still all only have a 1/1225 chance of winning each? And you don't see the problem with that statement?
Not sure if srs.


35 possible outcomes for event 1.

35 possible outcomes for event 2.

1225 total possible outcomes.
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
Lmao at the "chance" vs "probability" mixup going on ITT.



OP, what realistic course of action do you have to prove this? If everyone just wrote on scrap paper, there is nothing you can do... Make a better drawing next time, or use the 2-ticket system. Not hard...
Yeah, the draw was poverty because we all trust (trusted) each other. Next year imma do it myself.


Inb4 the same guy wins both tvs and everyone accuses me of fuking him
Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
So you are saying despite there only being 35 people there, and one of them has to win the prize, they still all only have a 1/1225 chance of winning each? And you don't see the problem with that statement?
1/35 are the chances of winning TV#1
1/35 are the chances of winning TV#2
(1/35)*(1/35) are the chances ofWINNING BOTH TV'S.


You need to stop arguing about this lol, srs.
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Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
This is pretty complicated so please read this twice before posting.


P(AB) = P(A)*P(B)


No. The P(A) and P(B) are independent. The P(AB) is dependent. The probably of getting heads twice is not 50% even though the probability of flip 1 (a) is 50% and the probability of flip 2 (b) is 50%. The probability of (AB) is 50% * 50%.


I'm not a math expert like you are but I believe 1/35 and 1/35 are equal.


Yes. I morphed the concept of probability just to troll you.
The following is probably the easiest way to explain where I see a problem with this
Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
So you are saying despite there only being 35 people there, and one of them has to win the prize, they still all only have a 1/1225 chance of winning each? And you don't see the problem with that statement?
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It's a fuking miracle the USA is 30th in math lol
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Yeah, the draw was poverty because we all trust (trusted) each other. Next year imma do it myself.


Inb4 the same guys wins both tvs and everyone accuses me of fuking him



1/35 are the chances of winning TV#1
1/35 are the chances of winning TV#2
(1/35)*(1/35) are the chances ofWINNING BOTH TV'S.


You need to stop arguing about this lol, srs.
Every single person there had already won a prize before being put back in for the big TV draw. So if winning one prize affects your chance of winning another in a separate draw then every single person there was affected in the same way.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
The following is probably the easiest way to explain where I see a problem with this
Okay, lets try to make it even more simple.


You are going to make two sandwiches, but you have two jars of mayo and one of them is spoiled/old, with worms and ****. If you make a sandwich with mayo from one random container, and then make a second sandwich with mayo from one random container, what is the chances of both of them being good, tasty and healthy sandwiches?


The answer is right in the kitchen, go look for it.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
The following is probably the easiest way to explain where I see a problem with this
No. Your problem is that you think I'm saying P(A)= P(A) and P(B) = P(AB).

I am saying there is a 1/35 chance to win the small TV and a 1/35 chance to win the large TV. I am saying there is a 1/1225 chance of winning both TVs.
Every single person there had already won a prize before being put back in for the big TV draw. So if winning one prize affects your chance of winning another in a separate draw then every single person there was affected in the same way.
We are not talking about the odds of winning the big tv. We all agree that is 1/35.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Every single person there had already won a prize before being put back in for the big TV draw. So if winning one prize affects your chance of winning another in a separate draw then every single person there was affected in the same way.
Just google it dude lol.

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Originally Posted By 420Layers⏩
It's a fuking miracle the USA is 30th in math lol
Don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby

This thread became pretty good
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First of all, who the fuk puts back a person's name after they draw their name and win a prize? This is not a fuking raffle where you can purchase as many entries you want.
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
Don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby

This thread became pretty good
yeah, one sure way to make a succesful thread is to have some kind of probability or physics problem on it lmao.
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okay smart guys real good math and all, but riddle me this: just how many days are there in a week ???
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So anyway.

How do you think she cheated? Palmed his name or something?

Why you always have the winner of the last prize draw the next. Cuts the drama
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Originally Posted By eXistenceLies⏩
First of all, who the fuk puts back a person's name after they draw their name and win a prize? This is not a fuking raffle where you can purchase as many entries you want.
Everyone is put back for the big prize.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Okay, lets try to make it even more simple.


You are going to make two sandwiches, but you have two jars of mayo and one of them is spoiled/old, with worms and ****. If you make a sandwich with mayo from one random container, and then make a second sandwich with mayo from one random container, what is the chances of both of them being good, tasty and healthy sandwiches?


The answer is right in the kitchen, go look for it.
Facepalming right now.

There were 35 people there, yes? Someone had to win it, yes? So they all had an equal chance, yes?

Even if winning a draw beforehand can affect your chance of winning the next, everyone had won a draw beforehand so they were all affected by this, yes?

Which puts everyone still having an equal chance at this new draw. Which is a 1/35 chance since there is 35 people there and there isn't an option for no one to win.

Unless you are suggesting what kind of prize you won beforehand affects your chances so the person who won a set of coasters had a better shot at the tv than the person who won a tv in the first draw lmao.
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
So anyway.

How do you think she cheated? Palmed his name or something?

Why you always have the winner of the last prize draw the next. Cuts the drama
She was in charge of printing the names and putting them inside a glass. I dont know how she did it im no David Blaine, she probably had his name up her pussy or something
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Everyone is put back for the big prize.
That is just dumb. They don't do that here at my company. Though they give out dozens on TV's for prizes.
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Bold. She put a visual indicator on his piece of paper to know which one it is. Did she also pull the paper and announce it, or did someone else?

If I were her, I would have just done it for one TV.

But two?

I'd be pissed, and I'm sure others are too.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Facepalming right now.

There were 35 people there, yes? Someone had to win it, yes? So they all had an equal chance, yes?

Even if winning a draw beforehand can affect your chance of winning the next, everyone had won a draw beforehand so they were all affected by this, yes?

Which puts everyone still having an equal chance at this new draw. Which is a 1/35 chance since there is 35 people there and there isn't an option for no one to win.

Unless you are suggesting what kind of prize you won beforehand affects your chances so the person who won a set of coasters had a better shot at the tv than the person who won a tv in the first draw lmao.
Yes, they all had an equal chance at the first TV.
Yes, they all had an equal chance at the second TV.

The chance that somebody would be lucky enough to get both TV's is what we are talking about.

Example:

I am sitting in the middle of the room with a gun, blindfolded, loaded with 2 bullets. There are 35 helpless miscers tied to chairs in a circle around me. Chitposters, all of them.

Assuming I don't miss...

Everyone has an equal opportunity/chance at catching my first bullet (1/35)
Everyone has an equal opportunity/chance at catching my second bullet (1/35)

The chance that I shoot the same dumbass chitposting miscertwicewhile blindfolded is 1/1225. Because even if I shot that miscer once, the chit luck it would take to get shot a second time shows you why it is unlikely.
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