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post 1516425221 08-20-2017, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
1.14 once and again 1.13

1.12 is the max range for normal
What's your weight?
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post 1516425341 08-20-2017, 10:45 PM
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You're taking way too much fish oil. Get a high quality one from like Controlled labs or Now super omega. Theirs have better quantities of EPA and DHA so you only take 2-3 a day. Vit D is too high and if Optimen is turning your urine green why the fuk are you still taking it? Only multi I personally buy is vita-Jym but it is on the pricey side

edit: if creatinine is high, that really narrows it down. How many grams are you taking a day?
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I thought omega fatty acids were found not to be as beneficial as originally thought, why is everyone still taking fish oil pills?

Also, creatine supps have links to cancer, how is that worth?

10,000 vitamin D per day? sounds like a lot. I thought 2,000 to 3,000 was enough? Also, are you taking the liquid form?

I would stop the supps personally and listen to your doctor. Your future self will thank you.
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Originally Posted By hardestgainer⏩
You're taking way too much fish oil. Get a high quality one from like Controlled labs or Now super omega. Theirs have better quantities of EPA and DHA so you only take 2-3 a day. Vit D is too high and if Optimen is turning your urine green why the fuk are you still taking it? Only multi I personally buy is vita-Jym but it is on the pricey side
wtf someone told me optimen is suppose to make ur pee green that's considered normal due to somethig in it

But no other multi does it

Also weight is 175lbs cutting
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
Got blood test as usual some stuff was high. Blames it on my lifting supps.

Daily-

Currently I take 2-3 scoops of whey every day
Fish oil- 10 pills
Vitamin d 10,000 ui
Optimen 3 pills
2 joint support pills
Creatine

What should I do Misc? Lower it out or stop all together. He said good night sweet kidneys if I continue

But I also consume a ton of water almost 2.5 gals every day. Usually my pee is always clear but it's been green ever since I stared optimen.
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Is he a nonlifting *******?

No reason those supps should be hurting your kidney. Tell him to get fukced and get a new doctor.
Or she. If that alone isn't bad enough.
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I thought omega fatty acids were found not to be as beneficial as originally thought, why is everyone still taking fish oil pills?

Also, creatine supps have links to cancer, how is that worth?

10,000 vitamin D per day? sounds like a lot.I thought 2,000 to 3,000 was enough? Also, are you taking the liquid form?

I would stop the supps personally and listen to your doctor. Your future self will thank you.
As you say, way too much. Only vit C can be safely tolerated at that level.
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Its not the supps mate.... its all the crap byproducts, fillers and other garbage thats in then due from poor regulation.




You GP has an MD and real world experience. If he/she tells you to do something, do it. Plus supplements (minus dat dere) do f*ck all other than marginal benefits if they provide any at all. lol

























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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
wtf someone told me optimen is suppose to make ur pee green that's considered normal due to somethig in it

But no other multi does it

Also weight is 175lbs cutting
Yes, it is one of the B vitamins that makes your pee green.
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Stop taking so much whey, waste of money, you need 0.8g protein per kilo of lbm you have. You take way to much vitamin d, should cap it at 1000 ui. Get a multivitamin that isn't complete garbage, why do you think your piss is green brah? You use none of that multi and it just gets pissed out.
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
wtf someone told me optimen is suppose to make ur pee green that's considered normal due to somethig in it

But no other multi does it

Also weight is 175lbs cutting
I know its pretty common for people to get bright yellow urine from their body excreting excessive vitamins like B. But ive never heard of someones being green
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post 1516426551 08-20-2017, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted By BrUuh⏩
Stop taking so much whey, waste of money, you need 0.8g protein per kilo of lbm you have. You take way to much vitamin d, should cap it at 1000 ui. Get a multivitamin that isn't complete garbage, why do you think your piss is green brah? You use none of that multi and it just gets pissed out.
I thought optimen was a trusted brand

I'm just gonna stop all supps for now

And take a break

Max 1 scoop of whey
post 1516426731 08-20-2017, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted By hardestgainer⏩
I know its pretty common for people to get bright yellow urine from their body excreting excessive vitamins like B. But ive never heard of someones being green
Ya I meant bright yellow
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
wtf someone told me optimen is suppose to make ur pee green that's considered normal due to somethig in it

But no other multi does it

Also weight is 175lbs cutting
So your doctor has measured the amount of creatinine in your blood and assumed that he can use that number to estimate your kidney function just like in the normal population.

But since you both have a higher than normal (I'm assuming) muscle mass, and also a higher than normal activity level, your serum creatinine will be higher for the same kidney function. I calculated your creatinine clearance, and it looks fine to me. It's not exact though, and it could get more accurate with a couple more details. You can't just take what I say and ignore your doctor. Maybe bring this to his attention and have him actually measure your kidney function using inulin. I don't know a lot about that test, and I don't think it's often used, but it will provide your true kidney function.

TLDR; He didn't even measure your kidney function. He measured something that correlates with kidney function, but which can increase without kidney function changing.



Also, you don't need that much vitamin D. Cut back to what the bottle says unless otherwise directed by your doctor.
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post 1516427161 08-20-2017, 11:03 PM
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when you say creatine do u mean creatine or dat dere creatine?

Check your blood urea nitrogen ratio. If you have a very high BUN and a very high creatinine measurement, then it's probably good night sweet kidneys. If you have kidney problems, most docs recommend a low protein diet. Sucks if you lift, but it's better than pissing blood or black toxic filth.
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
I thought optimen was a trusted brand

I'm just gonna stop all supps for now

And take a break

Max 1 scoop of whey
It's alright brah but could you do better in that price range, I take garden of life vitamin code for men pretty high rated multivitamin, around the same price as opti. Plus the recommended serving for these pills is bullchit, when I took opti i'd always take 1-2 a day, 3 is just plain overkill. I don't have neon piss either with garden of life.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
when you say creatine do u mean creatine or dat dere creatine?

Check your blood urea nitrogen ratio. If you have a very high BUN and a very high creatinine measurement, then it's probably good night sweet kidneys. If you have kidney problems, most docs recommend a low protein diet. Sucks if you lift, but it's better than pissing blood or black toxic filth.
A high protein diet can elevate BUN, and a higher muscle mass and activity level can elevate creatinine, so they're not exactly so accurate for bodybuilders.
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post 1516427971 08-20-2017, 11:12 PM
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Ya I'm taking 3 with optimen lol. Gonna stop optimen and get a diff brand or no multi at all

Drdescartes what test should I do to get true kidney function

BUN was normal. Also normal creatine obvs
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
Ya I'm taking 3 with optimen lol. Gonna stop optimen and get a diff brand or no multi at all

Drdescartes what test should I do to get true kidney function

BUN was normal. Also normal creatine obvs
I'm honestly not familiar with methods of calculating kidney function other than creatinine clearance, which is what we use when looking at whether or not it's safe to use a med. I know of a couple, but I just don't know enough about them to really talk about them. I would just ask your doctor if it's possible that your creatinine is higher because of your activity level and muscle mass. While your level is on the high side of the scale, there seem to be causes for that which don't relate to poor kidney function.

Edit: Your creatinine clearance looks fine though.
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Well OP, taking some supplements is generally fine. That being said, you don't need to take a pharmacy worth of them Ronnie Coleman tackle box style. Like anything else, there's a limit as to what would be healthy.
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Originally Posted By Cinderblock⏩
You literally don't 'need' ANY of those supps. Fix your diet.
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
wtf I'm taking a sht load of water cuz it's suppose to clear out the sht load of supps I thought
Doesn't work like that brah
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""Stop taking creatine. That **** is brutal on your kidneys. And it's not meant to be used long term. You're clearly not using it as it's supposed to be used. Studies have only shown that it's effective in increasing muscle stamina with short term use."

Is this true
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
""Stop taking creatine. That **** is brutal on your kidneys. And it's not meant to be used long term. You're clearly not using it as it's supposed to be used. Studies have only shown that it's effective in increasing muscle stamina with short term use."

Is this true
Creatine is naturally occurring in red meats. It can be used indefinitely.
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Originally Posted By creatinemonstr⏩
Got blood test as usual some stuff was high.
Great detail OP.
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Originally Posted By NumbNuh⏩
Alot of doctors know **** all about lifting. My doctor told me to stop lifting heavy and do high reps like 20 or some **** like that. He can fuq right off, find another doctor. Preferably one that has experience with lifters.
Your doctor isn't there to help you make lifting gains. He's there to help you with your health.

And lifting heavy does wreck your joints when yo uwere older you will feel it.
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Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩
Most GPs are morons. What was high that he blames on those supps?
Most OPs are morons. Dude with green pee needs to stop taking chit that makes his pee green.
Take it easy Christian
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Originally Posted By Jw.⏩
LOL@ taking supps in 2k17
this. unless you are malnourished in a 3rd world country, you don't need to be taking a chit ton of supps. food contains all the nutrients you need
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Originally Posted By TerryMcLewis⏩
Your doctor isn't there to help you make lifting gains. He's there to help you with your health.

And lifting heavy does wreck your joints when yo uwere older you will feel it.
To be frank, aging does that anyway. Also, not entirely true -- proper lifting can actuallyimprovejoint health.
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Stop the creatine and see if anything changes.
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