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post 1524417351 10-31-2017, 05:41 AM
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it is absolutely possible and happens. Any NYC area Carpenter, Laborer, Operator, Iron worker, Welder, etc will easily make that and much more if they are steady working year round. You can look up their labor rates. Low level guys make upwards of 40 bucks an hour, 1.5x overtime and 2x over certain hours and sundays. Vacation checks every quarter as well.
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The best job at my workplace is mowing grass. They only have to work during the summer and get paid in the high 20s. It's great money for the job. If people are still mowing grass when I retire, I'm going to apply for one of those jobs.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I'm not even going to bother posting a comparison between the lifetime earnings of degree holders vs HS diplomas to show how stupid you are


I also love how most of the posts ITT confirming the high salaries are either anecdotes or hourly rates (including OT which is often limited) for extremely expensive markets.

fukin lmao @ using Aus and NYC rates for your baseline. Impossible to cope harder
So basically exclude all the data that doesn't fit your preconceived narrative.

Seems legit.
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Where i live u literally cannot get a plumber out to your house in under 3 weeks, thats how short the tradie supply is, with the amount of drones going into college for a standard white collar wagecuck 9-5 tradies are in short supply and absolutely killin it, its very easy to work for yourself aswell.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
So basically exclude all the data that doesn't fit your preconceived narrative.

Seems legit.
Its absolutely legit.

Is it possible to make 120k as a tradie at 25? It is in exclusive, high cost of living markets

Is that income level anywhere near the mean or average? Absolutely not
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post 1524418141 10-31-2017, 05:57 AM
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In 2010, from the US census bureau, only 7 percent of people made at least 6 figures. So union trade wages are not coping by any standard, unless its the standard of delusional miscers where everyone is parlaying their college degree into becoming millionaires.
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post 1524418491 10-31-2017, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I'm not even going to bother posting a comparison between the lifetime earnings of degree holders vs HS diplomas to show how stupid you are


I also love how most of the posts ITT confirming the high salaries are either anecdotes or hourly rates (including OT which is often limited) for extremely expensive markets.

fukin lmao @ using Aus and NYC rates for your baseline. Impossible to cope harder
Except the comparisons in those studies are between the average lifetime earnings of college degree holders vs ALL people without degrees. If you can find studies between lifetime earnings of degree holders vs people who work a trade as part of a union anywhere in the country, than we have something to inspect.
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post 1524418641 10-31-2017, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
Actually its possible. If youre a journeyman in IL which takes 5 years you make at minimum 45 an hour. Add in overtime which is time and a half and double time on sundays and there you go. No OT for a carpenter at 46.50 an hour is 96k
Its more than possible, it happens all the time in my line of work (industrial construction). Hell, I had a layout guy make $160k back in 2015.
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post 1524418721 10-31-2017, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
Actually its possible. If youre a journeyman in IL which takes 5 years you make at minimum 45 an hour. Add in overtime which is time and a half and double time on sundays and there you go. No OT for a carpenter at 46.50 an hour is 96k
I'm gonna need some proof of this. Most post-graduate degree engineers don't even make that much after 5 years experience let alone as aminimum
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Tradie buddy of mine went to HVAC school for a whopping 4 months and claimed he was going to be making $600/day, most of it in cash money.

Checked back in with him a few months afterward, turns out he was really making $600/week.



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Originally Posted By Heavyright⏩
Except the comparisons in those studies are between the average lifetime earnings of college degree holders vs ALL people without degrees. If you can find studies between lifetime earnings of degree holders vs people who work a trade as part of a union anywhere in the country, than we have something to inspect.
Except people who work a trade as part of a union anywhere in the country are at the very high end of trade salaries

We would need to compare that to the lifetime salaries of high end degree holders as well for an accurate comparison

I'm sure you can see where this will end up
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post 1524418941 10-31-2017, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted By AVOJAMACADA⏩
Lol @ op coping that most tradies make more then clowns with useless degrees.
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We shouldn't be shaming tradies. They have the possibility to make so much money and they usually never had any student loan debt. They knew college was a complete scam. We really should be shaming the people with useless degrees that are neck deep in student loan debt and still aren't really making chit lol
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my uncle makes 350k a year as an underwater electrician
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Its absolutely legit.

Is it possible to make 120k as a tradie at 25? It is in exclusive, high cost of living markets

Is that income level anywhere near the mean or average? Absolutely not
These guys always mention top 1-2% of tradies. It's like saying most investment bankers can make 2 million a year while only the 1% make that much and the rest hover in the 100k-200k range if lucky.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Except people who work a trade as part of a union anywhere in the country are at the very high end of trade salaries

We would need to compare that to the lifetime salaries of high end degree holders as well for an accurate comparison

I'm sure you can see where this will end up
I would never make the argument that someone should choose to go the trade route over something like majoring in STEM at a top school, if that opportunity is there. I simply deny the idea that going the trade route requires this need to cope. There are only a small percentage of highly intelligent people who should outright ignore the route of going into a trade imo.
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Originally Posted By dbluevette⏩
Let's be realistic here. Not every tradie is going to achieve that type of pay. But union backed trades are definitely paying that amount.
And those have opportunity to start small businesses and pull that kind of money with a couple trucks working for them. I wholesale HVAC/Plumbing and we have plenty of contractors that buy from us and kill it.
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Originally Posted By numb3rrs⏩
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We shouldn't be shaming tradies. They have the possibility to make so much money and they usually never had any student loan debt. They knew college was a complete scam. We really should be shaming the people with useless degrees that are neck deep in student loan debt and still aren't really making chit lol
The problem a lot tradies is they have the tech skills but not the business skills to really make a lot of money in trades. The ones that do make a lot of money. You need both.
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Originally Posted By Heavyright⏩
I would never make the argument that someone should choose to go the trade route over something like majoring in STEM at a top school, if that opportunity is there. I simply deny the idea that going the trade route requires this need to cope. There are only a small percentage of highly intelligent people who should outright ignore the route of going into a trade imo.
Yawn. There are dozens of reason why people should not choose a trade route.

The misc loves to perpetuate this scenario of comparing high end trade careers to art history majors

The truth is that motivated and intelligent people are going to succeed regardless of the path they choose. I'm not sure why there s a need to bash one or the other.
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I dont know many tradies... but I know several people with bachelors degrees working entry level jobs in their mid 30's and they and their jobs have nothing to do with their degree field
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Yawn. There are dozens of reason why people should not choose a trade route.

The misc loves to perpetuate this scenario of comparing high end trade careers to art history majors

The truth is that motivated and intelligent people are going to succeed regardless of the path they choose. I'm not sure why there s a need to bash one or the other.
If someone can get into a top 50 school, I don't blame that person for going yolo and shooting for the stars. The issue is when you have people with average sat/act scores, going to average schools, coming out with massive debt, who than looks down at the tradie who is making 2x what they are.
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I made that ten years ago. Second class power engineer in Alberta.
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Originally Posted By Heavyright⏩
If someone can get into a top 50 school, I don't blame that person for going yolo and shooting for the stars. The issue is when you have people with average sat/act scores, going to average schools, coming out with massive debt, who than looks down at the tradie who is making 2x what they are.
It isn't the school,it's the degree. You cannot compare liberal arts to the best paid trades at the top percentile.
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If you work 60 hour weeks, you can make $100k doing a trade, assuming you never get laid off. Most of them don't do that good though. Around here the average tradie is probably pulling in $40-50k.
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Originally Posted By Heavyright⏩
If someone can get into a top 50 school, I don't blame that person for going yolo and shooting for the stars. The issue is when you have people with average sat/act scores, going to average schools, coming out with massive debt, who than looks down at the tradie who is making 2x what they are.
The issue is also when you have people that fuked off in high school, went to some chop shop tech school for 6 weeks, came out with no debt and then laughs at people who went to school for a useful degree which required manageable debt and now they're making 10x what the tradie is making

Would you like to continue with these stupid comparisons?
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They're probably using the $120k stat because it's their total revenue or something (without minusing expenses).

That's what all the pyramid scheme people do. They say they "made $10k last month" but forget to mention that doesn't include the cost to buy the product which cost $8k.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
FYI, no way your average tradie in the uk gets close to 100k US. I worked with window fitters, a middle of the road trade, about 10 years ago and the lead man in the crew was getting no more than 45k US. May have gone up a little since then but those were 12 hour days as well.

Only way you will get close to those numbers here is to have certifications to the moon and back and almost certainly be working for yourself. You won't be 25 either lol
The UK on the whole is rubbish when it comes to work. If you manage to make £100k+ here, then you’re in the top one percent. Consultant doctors don’t even make six figures until they have 15+ years experience and start on £22k as junior doctors. Think about that for a second. Doctors invest so many years and money into education and training for peanuts.

I work as a tower crane operative in construction sites, and make £18 an hour (£900 a week, 10 hours a day Mon-fri) and that’s more than what a lot of tradies make in this country but it’s still poverty. It means about £45k-£50k a year or a bit more depending on overtime.

It would suck a bit less if the hours weren’t so long, and if you got traditional company benefits. Most tradies I know, including myself, are self employed. So we make £40k+ but don’t get holiday pay, don’t get sick pay, no company pension, no perks. If you break an arm while working then it’s unlikely you’ll get a payout, especially if it wasn’t the fault of the company.

The money used to actually mean something when the exchange rate was 1 pound to 2 dollars back in the golden age before the 2009 financial crash, and even after the exchange rate was favourable until brexit. You actually felt wealthy here when you could make £50k which would buy you $100k dollars. Now it’s just ****. We’re doing the same work, for far less, more hours, less/no benefits and less career progression.

It’s not all bad for some trades though. Plumbers have a good life and I’ve seen jobs where plumbers make £550+ a day. Electricians and large plant technicians also make bank and are in great demand wherever you go. I’m seriously considering re-training to be a plumber or electrician, but I don’t want to sacrifice 3+ years at 24 by doing it the traditional way (apprenticeship and college). I’m willing to pay a few thousands for an intensive course or another shortcut.

I hope my American, Canadian and Australian tradie bros don’t take their opportunities for granted. Whether union or no union, they have it far better, and I don’t want them to squander it. Maybe next century the UK will catch up to them.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I'm not even going to bother posting a comparison between the lifetime earnings of degree holders vs HS diplomas to show how stupid you are


I also love how most of the posts ITT confirming the high salaries are either anecdotes or hourly rates (including OT which is often limited) for extremely expensive markets.

fukin lmao @ using Aus and NYC rates for your baseline. Impossible to cope harder
the fact that you even think that would be a good statistic for a case like this is retarded. The average person with a hs diploma ends up working at the fukking gas station. Look at the illinois labor statistic i posted. Youre pulling in 100k no matter what you do in a union, if you become a crane operator or somwthing specialized youre pulling in twice that. If you run anything on the union board then theres more money. My friends dad is a crane operator and conductor of the training site for new apprentices and makes 250k a year. Theres money in it, way more than most white collar jobs.
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Originally Posted By Workback⏩
For union sites in Australia, a tradie can pull that sort of money no worries. A lot of the time it matters more where you work rather than what you actually do. Once you start looking at FIFO work, 120k is nothing. The sort of work takes a huge toll on your life though. You can't be a family man and work FIFO.
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d⏩
I dont know many tradies... but I know several people with bachelors degrees working entry level jobs in their mid 30's and they and their jobs have nothing to do with their degree field
These people are a dime a dozen in every western country. The fuked up big time.
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