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post 1548710791 04-09-2018, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
the average african iq is 85. That would explain how you consider that to be an accomplishment.
I can go through all the reasons why IQ and intelligence tests are absolute bull****, and usually these statistics are highly flawed and only used online by wanna be online ubermenche's to have an air of superiority, but usually when peanut brained buffoons like you get your half baked opinion challenged you actually double down and become even more ignorant, so let me ask you this.

The average IQ in Africa might be 85, but where does that put you?

It's easy to look down at others from your Ivory tower because in your mind you've placed them not as humans but as 85 IQ savages that can't ever be helped.

What have you done with your life that's so beneficial to the world that begets such high level of arrogance? 16,000 posts on a bodybuilding forum to cover your childhood body insecurity?

I genuinely love seeing the inflated egos in the average person when it comes to the IQ discussion, all the worthless ****s come out of the woodwork to pretend like they're not worthless air suckers that haven't done a single worthwhile thing with their life.
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Originally Posted By StarFart⏩
I'd be careful with taking anything Jordan Peterson says seriously, I know he's the flavor of the month for people that are pretty clueless about what he talks about and are impressed with his vocabulary and how charismatic he is but basically: he’s just using big words, and his observations are actually either just truisms or are provocative but empty.

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post 1548711001 04-09-2018, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
hes not wrong still. The average person is a fukking tard. Theyre good for basic tasks like pumping gas or taking someones order. The 1/10 arent only worthless theyre a drag on society.
Not that I really believe in IQ or related trends, but this is seriously true. And how many times has someone messed up your order?
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How is IQ measured though without tests? Or are they taking a test sample size and deeming the average score indicative of the entire population?
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Originally Posted By StarFart⏩
I can go through all the reasons why IQ and intelligence tests are absolute bull****, and usually these statistics are highly flawed and only used online by wanna be online ubermenche's to have an air of superiority, but usually when peanut brained buffoons like you get your half baked opinion challenged you actually double down and become even more ignorant, so let me ask you this.

The average IQ in Africa might be 85, but where does that put you?

It's easy to look down at others from your Ivory tower because in your mind you've placed them not as humans but as 85 IQ savages that can't ever be helped.

What have you done with your life that's so beneficial to the world that begets such high level of arrogance? 16,000 posts on a bodybuilding forum to cover your childhood body insecurity?

I genuinely love seeing the inflated egos in the average person when it comes to the IQ discussion, all the worthless ****s come out of the woodwork to pretend like they're not worthless air suckers that haven't done a single worthwhile thing with their life.
yea, i dont believe in iq tbh. i think it could fluctuate on something so small as someone having a bad day.

there's tonsss wrong with it.

i also believe there's a threshold where iq becomes a detriment. im fairly certain that iq hasn't been correlated with success up to a certain point.

anything above 150 is generally considered a hindrance.

i think you'd have lots of problems, and most of them stemming from isolation. somebody with an extremely high iq would no doubt be isolated and have isolation related issues
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
i don’t think you know what iq is boyo...

One of the greatest mathematical genius, with one of the highest recorded Iq, was from some bumfuk poor village in India with no education whatsoever.

Having an iq below 80 literally means you’re mentally handicapped.

Are there uses for those people? Sure. Are they a liability in certain situations when tasked with certain responsibilities? Absolutely.
Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing, or do you have any of your own thoughts on the subject?
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Originally Posted By StarFart⏩
I can go through all the reasons why IQ and intelligence tests are absolute bull****, and usually these statistics are highly flawed and only used online by wanna be online ubermenche's to have an air of superiority, but usually when peanut brained buffoons like you get your half baked opinion challenged you actually double down and become even more ignorant, so let me ask you this.

The average IQ in Africa might be 85, but where does that put you?

It's easy to look down at others from your Ivory tower because in your mind you've placed them not as humans but as 85 IQ savages that can't ever be helped.

What have you done with your life that's so beneficial to the world that begets such high level of arrogance? 16,000 posts on a bodybuilding forum to cover your childhood body insecurity?

I genuinely love seeing the inflated egos in the average person when it comes to the IQ discussion, all the worthless ****s come out of the woodwork to pretend like they're not worthless air suckers that haven't done a single worthwhile thing with their life.
im not arrogant and i didnt claim he was a savage, i just said his bar of achievement is pretty fukking low and it sounds like a big line of cope. Strong projecting on your part though.

Anyways my iq was tested at 136. I havent set out to change the world but im successful and ive excelled at everything ive ever applied myself to Ive inspired plenty of people here and in real life to live a better life and improve themself. Thats more than most people can say.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
im not arrogant and i didnt claim he was a savage, i just said his bar of achievement is pretty fukking low and it sounds like a big line of cope. Strong projecting on your part though.

Anyways my iq was tested at 136. I havent set out to change the world but im successful and ive excelled at everything ive ever applied myself to Ive inspired plenty of people here and in real life to live a better life and improve themself.
the average IQ on the internet is about 152 so you are about 16 points below the mean boyo.
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Originally Posted By 7rmr⏩
So you get a step that 1 in 10 people are a liability and from that you jump to50% of people are cognitively worthless.

Sounds like you are part of the 1 in 10
How else should i express the concept that most people have and will never invent something that benefits humanity? Just about everything that makes your life easy was brought into existence by a very few smart people. If it weren't for these people we'd all still be chasing antelope in the Serengeti. Not sure why this rustles people so much. It is what it is.

Btw... you can teach people to take apart and engine and put it back together through repetition. You have to be on another level to be a Tesla, Einstein, Archimedes, Da Vinci, Nash, etc... and come up with unique ideas, build them in the real world, and change humanity forever.
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post 1548711961 04-09-2018, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
the average IQ on the internet is about 152 so you are about 16 points below the mean boyo.
damn it. So close.
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Originally Posted By JewSeeJohn⏩
ACTUALLY my friend, most things that were invented/discovered, were discovered by a select few people, whowere working off of other peoples work that was considered general prerequisite knowledge at the time.

I love you 'High IQ' miscers have this air of superiority and think you are better than every one, but in reality your IQ doesn't help you realize that you are simply believing what you want to believe.
You're still talking about less than 1% of the population. And in many cases you're actually completely wrong. There are many things that have been invented that are just a quantum leap above the current thinking at the time.

I also never claimed i was high IQ. Thanks for assuming I was though
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Yeah dude 1/10th of the population of the US voted for Trump so this theory checks out
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I wonder where OP sits on this bell curve.
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Originally Posted By headturner1⏩
Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing, or do you have any of your own thoughts on the subject?
how do you like them apples bitch?
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
Yeah dude 1/10th of the population of the US voted for Trump so this theory checks out
well, the majority of our country voted for Trudeau...
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
the average IQ on the internet is about 152 so you are about 16 points below the mean boyo.
Lol this x1000. So cringeworthy whenever someone says "my IQ was tested...." over the internet. Besides the blatant exaggeration/garbage testing methods....IQ in general is largely a joke, and the true geniuses (e.g the late Stephen Hawking) are almost universally quick to denounce/mock the concept.

Whoever was talking about the Indian mathematician up there- and I assume this is referring to Ramanujan, who died in 1920- I highly, highly doubt he ever took any kind of IQ test, giving him the "highest recorded IQ".
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Lol this x1000. So cringeworthy whenever someone says "my IQ was tested...." over the internet. Besides the blatant exaggeration/garbage testing methods....IQ in general is largely a joke, and the true geniuses (e.g the late Stephen Hawking) are almost universally quick to denounce/mock the concept.

Whoever was talking about the Indian mathematician up there- and I assume this is referring to Ramanujan, who died in 1920-I highly, highly doubt he ever took any kind of IQ test, giving him the "highest recorded IQ".
They simply try to estimate. No different than what they've done for Da Vinci and Archimedes (IMO the smartest person to have ever lived). Ramanujan was one of those rare people that had something going on in his brain that allowed him to see and do things that 99.9% of people couldn't ... even his peers. Reminds me of this guy:

Guy sees numbers as shapes and colors.

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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
With that in mind i considered IQ across the board was likely on a bell curve. Which would mean that half the people in the USA are almost cognitively worthless. I think it's also reasonable to assume that the top 10-15% of the population throughout the ages from the invention of the bow and arrow, to agriculture, to the industrial revolution, to the internet age ... are responsible for carrying the human race and making it the dominant species. And that the rest of the people have done little to nothing. Completely explains how in every organization/company 90% of the people are rotters that add little to no value while the other 10% are responsible for most of the growth/output.
nut sure if srs, do you know how much work goes into building stuff in general? You need the people at the low-end of the spectrum to even make innovation possible. The collection of resources, processing of resources, transport of resources etc

good luck building pc's without gold miners, good luck building gold mining machinery without factory workers, good luck transporting any of this without drivers, good luck even having transportation vehicles without maintenance workers, oil workers for fuel, factories for tires, etcetc (this is just a superficial look into what those on the lower-half of the IQ bell curve provide)
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Originally Posted By Cesarbruh⏩
nut sure if srs, do you know how much work goes into building stuff in general? You need the people at the low-end of the spectrum to even make innovation possible. The collection of resources, processing of resources, transport of resources etc

good luck building pc's without gold miners, good luck building gold mining machinery without factory workers, good luck transporting any of this without drivers, good luck even having transportation vehicles without maintenance workers, oil workers for fuel, factories for tires, etcetc (this is just a superficial look into what those on the lower-half of the IQ bell curve provide)


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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
They simple try to estimate. No different than what they've done for Da Vinci and Archimedes (IMO the smartest person to have ever lived).
And if you think about that a little....how they are estimating how someone from 500 or 2000 years ago would perform on an intelligence test, you will realize how ridiculous of a concept that is.
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Originally Posted By Cesarbruh⏩
nut sure if srs, do you know how much work goes into building stuff in general? You need the people at the low-end of the spectrum to even make innovation possible. The collection of resources, processing of resources, transport of resources etc

good luck building pc's without gold miners, good luck building gold mining machinery without factory workers, good luck transporting any of this without drivers, good luck even having transportation vehicles without maintenance workers, oil workers for fuel, factories for tires, etcetc (this is just a superficial look into what those on the lower-half of the IQ bell curve provide)
WTF does gathering the raw materials for a PC have to do with some high IQ nerd in a lab envisioning something better than a vacuum tube, having an "Ah ha!" moment, and designing an IC thereby bringing modern computing into existence? Without that one nerd you'd never be gathering raw materials to begin with. Modern computing could of died with the vacuum tube computers of the 1940s just like the steam engine did in classical Egypt with Heron.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
And if you think about that a little....how they are estimating how someone from 500 or 2000 years ago would perform on an intelligence test, you will realize how ridiculous of a concept that is.
Not really. Humans quantify things. Why would quantifying intelligence be any different?
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Originally Posted By JewSeeJohn⏩
That's the thing, the invention of a transistor did not occur because someone envisioned 'something smaller than a 'vacuum tube'. They exist because some guy developed semiconductor materials that allowed some guy to play with them and finally allow a large current pass through a material after it was 'switched on' by a lower current, allowing electrons to pass.

This however required certain thing's to exist and there for allow for the creation of semi-conductors and sh*t
And who invented those "certain things"? Some high IQ nerd which represents a very small percentage of the population now and throughout all of human history. The average person on the street has zero clue how electricity works. Their understanding of a computer is little beyond a magic box that turns on. That's the difference between the average person and the small minority of people that have made the modern world possible.
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I watched a video about a guy with downs syndrome. He worked in a restaurant. The owner said he was the hardest worker.

I dont really believe in placing limitations on yourself just because of what other people say.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
Not really. Humans quantify things. Why would quantifying intelligence be any different?
Because you, the "estimators", or anyone else have no idea how say Newton would perform on a certain test, and there is no way around that.

A: what was Newton's IQ?
B: 190
A: why?
B: ummmmmm.....well he made a lot of original contributions to physics/mathematics.
A: But why does that correlate to a score of 190 on a modern IQ test? Not even a 185? 160? Why 190?
B: ummm well it's a guess...

By quantifying intelligence using the IQ metric, you are basically just defining intelligence to be IQ, which is fine, but there are obviously other definitions of intelligence. Creativity is just one factor that comes to mind. The ironic thing about the "calculating prodigies/savants" like in the above video- people who can calculate what 165,165,165,165,165*165,165,165,165,165 is in a matter of minutes.....are almost never the ones making actual creative contributions to mathematics. Ramanujan being a major exception/fluke. But in general, calculating prodigies are doing almost nothing for the subject.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Because you, the "estimaters", or anyone else have no idea how say Newton would perform on a certain test, and there is no way around that.

A: what was Newton's IQ?
B: 190
A: why?
B: ummmmmm.....well he made a lot of original contributions to physics/mathematics.
A: But why does that correlate to a score of 190 on a modern IQ test? Not even a 185? 160? Why 190?
B: ummm well it's a guess...

By quantifying intelligence using the IQ metric, you are basically just defining intelligence to be IQ, which is fine, but there are obviously other definitions of intelligence. Creativity is just one factor that comes to mind. The ironic thing about the "calculating prodigies/savants" like in the above video- people who can calculate what 165,165,165,165,165*165,165,165,165,165 is in a matter of minutes.....are almost never the ones making actual creative contributions to mathematics. Ramanujan being a major exception/fluke. But in general, calculating prodigies are doing almost nothing for the subject.
Quantifying it allows useful things to be done with it. Like putting new recruits for the military in jobs that match their capabilities, which in turn makes for a more efficient military.
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"The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts." - Marcus Aurelius

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