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post 1550150061 04-26-2018, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By momo5
dang he could have got ya brah
really could have. We've had a few notable serial killers for a city our size. I think mostly because we're kind of a hub city to the bay and northern and central/southern california.
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wish we could collect all the serial killers from 1900-now and put them all in one room and have them fight each other. that'd be entertainment
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Never give your DNA to anyone, especially a big corporation...
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Originally Posted By xtrah
rip genealogy websites

anyone with some sense would think twice before volunteering their dna for a national database.. even having a family member that uses it could connect your dna to you

if they previously found dna and couldnt match it in their database, it was basically used as a confirmation tool, not a deductive one.

now if they find your dna they can run it against these genealogy sites and trace your dna to a family member... no thx
So a criminal could send in someone else's DNA to lead police in the wrong direction away from them? Strong police work here. Inb4 he didn't do it.
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
So a criminal could send in someone else's DNA to lead police in the wrong direction away from them? Strong police work here. Inb4 he didn't do it.
He confessed to it, not only to being the Golden State Killer but also the Visalia Ransacker (responsible for an additional 100+ crimes).
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I watched HLNs five part series on the GSK a couple weeks ago. It was really good. Can't believe they caught him, unreal. Blew my mind hearing how he got away so many times.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
this thrad got deleted yesterday for some reason.

dude was living down the street from me for years.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
so whats going on here? are we saying ancestry and 23andme are full of chit and they really aided authorities but are claiming they didn't in fear of public backlash? also are we assuming that this killer once sent in his dna to be tested which fukked him?
Seems so
post 1550165211 04-27-2018, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
So a criminal could send in someone else's DNA to lead police in the wrong direction away from them? Strong police work here. Inb4 he didn't do it.
They obtained DNA from his trash and matched it to the DNA in the original evidence.
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it
Damn, i thought the dude died years ago in that robbery that went to chit

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Originally Posted By stfudonny
im confused. did ancestry give up his info or is big brother just monitoring all that sht without permission.

i have a 23 and me kit sitting in my room. having second thoughts about sending it in.
yeah i also prefer to do evil crimes in piece so the damn evil gooberment cant backtrace me
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Originally Posted By lnvictus
Cliffs?
Did they use 23andme database to find him? Does that mean cops can use 23andme to get anyone's genetic info?
Yes so you'd better start behaving yourself. No more flashing your Johnson at old grannies.
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Originally Posted By sdmk
unless i'm unaware of some recent legislation i'm pretty sure its illegal as **** for law enforcement to use genetic testing websites like that
no way they would make such a high profile arrest on 100% inadmissible evidence
Just because it's inadmissible doesn't mean it has no investigative value to find evidence which is admissible.

Officers have been gathering DNA off cigarette butts in public garbage cans, interrogation room chairs, and drinking glasses to confirm suspicions for years. You leave it in plain view everywhere you go and put more of it on the curb in your garbage every week.

Here, they just used a relative's records, probably somebody who downloaded the raw data from legitimate secure tools and submitted it to a sketchy third-party tool, to figure out who to build the case against.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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If you guys really want to know what a sick **** he is, check out the casefile podcast. True crime podcast that basically goes over past serial killers and the atrocities they committed. This dude was a MENACE. And he was so proud of the fact that he was never going to be caught.

REALLY recommend it to anyone interested in true crime. Can be pretty disturbing/graphic so listeners discretion is advised.

http://casefilepodcast.com/case-53-e...t-1976-part-1/

Great listen to at work, they areall about 1-1.5 hours each and this case particularly so so fuking long and he committed crimes and evaded arrest for so long, it’s in 3 parts.

Seen every episode on the website and they are AMAZING. Also on spotify.
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever
If you guys really want to know what a sick **** he is, check out the casefile podcast. True crime podcast that basically goes over past serial killers and the atrocities they committed. This dude was a MENACE. And he was so proud of the fact that he was never going to be caught.

REALLY recommend it to anyone interested in true crime. Can be pretty disturbing/graphic so listeners discretion is advised.

http://casefilepodcast.com/case-53-e...t-1976-part-1/

Great listen to at work, they areall about 1-1.5 hours each and this case particularly so so fuking long and he committed crimes and evaded arrest for so long, it’s in 3 parts.

Seen every episode on the website and they are AMAZING. Also on spotify.
I wonder if they'll bring back the death penalty for him
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post 1550200581 04-27-2018, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY
Are you okay? Did you died?
lol. He was one of the state's most notorious killers so just wild to think he lived within a mile of me.
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These companies definitely sell their DBs. It's how they really make their money.

What happened was some relative of his sent in their DNA and it matched enough to alert detectives. They looked at the genealogy to find probable suspects. Once they drew him in their sights they collected his DNA profile from his trash. Obviously confirmed it was him from evidence left behind.
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever
If you guys really want to know what a sick **** he is, check out the casefile podcast. True crime podcast that basically goes over past serial killers and the atrocities they committed. This dude was a MENACE. And he was so proud of the fact that he was never going to be caught.

REALLY recommend it to anyone interested in true crime. Can be pretty disturbing/graphic so listeners discretion is advised.

http://casefilepodcast.com/case-53-e...t-1976-part-1/

Great listen to at work, they areall about 1-1.5 hours each and this case particularly so so fuking long and he committed crimes and evaded arrest for so long, it’s in 3 parts.

Seen every episode on the website and they are AMAZING. Also on spotify.
Will check this out later, I tried listening to Last Podcast On the Left serial killer podcasts but couldn't get past 20 minutes, full of unfunny obnoxious jokes it's practically unlistenable.
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Originally Posted By Slurgie
I read that when they arrested him he protested that he had changed/put that all behind a long time ago.
So why have they arrested him then if he quit 40 years ago? Makes no sense
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Crazy they finally caught him after all these years. I just watched a show on these killings about a month or two ago.

The other takeaway is yeah, fukkkkkkkkkkk giving your DNA to any of these stupid sites. Even non serial killer/rapers should see the potential intrusion of privacy and risk of having someone able to match your DNA or clone you at some point in the future...
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Patton oswalt is saying due he was caught due to the release of his former wifes book. Even though the police said that is not true. Dude is such a creep, wife dies and he is engaged like 6 months later
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pretty alpha to sneak into someones cave, tie them down, then phuck their wife.


nice to see justice served though.
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Originally Posted By bobthebuilder7
Patton oswalt is saying due he was caught due to the release of his former wifes book. Even though the police said that is not true. Dude is such a creep, wife dies and he is engaged like 6 months later
whoa had no clue this dude was involved.

cash grab? Pretty scummy. His twitter is emblazoned with book ads now lol
Originally Posted By TrickHenry
pretty alpha to sneak into someones cave, tie them down, then phuck their wife.


nice to see justice served though.
nah dude was a poosy. He committed 1 particularly bitch offense that I won't mention, because I think it's why the last thread was deleted.

but anyone with the will can sneak into a house and victimize people who are sleeping.
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever
If you guys really want to know what a sick **** he is, check out the casefile podcast. True crime podcast that basically goes over past serial killers and the atrocities they committed. This dude was a MENACE. And he was so proud of the fact that he was never going to be caught.

REALLY recommend it to anyone interested in true crime. Can be pretty disturbing/graphic so listeners discretion is advised.

http://casefilepodcast.com/case-53-e...t-1976-part-1/

Great listen to at work, they areall about 1-1.5 hours each and this case particularly so so fuking long and he committed crimes and evaded arrest for so long, it’s in 3 parts.

Seen every episode on the website and they are AMAZING. Also on spotify.
Bout halfway through this. Guy clearly had a lock on mind games. I'm sure his military/LE background helped. Pretty disgusting stuff.
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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum
This, definitely never using ancestryagain.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
this thrad got deleted yesterday for some reason.

dude was living down the street from me for years.
You serious? Did you ever speak to him in person or see him around often?
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So the local NBC DC affiliate did a story on this privacy issue today. Cliffs were that 30 something warrants were issued to the company 23 and me last year for DNA, so they complied. It is true that they compared a family member's dna to the suspects trash and were able to wrap up the case using it. The question to ask yourself is, is the predictive future health benefits that you learn from testing, worth alleviating your fears that you are in a database?

For the record one of my family members is using it in conjunction with his doctors to solve a problem.
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Originally Posted By JaegerBrah
Got some bad news, homie.



You serious? Did you ever speak to him in person or see him around often?
Yeah srs but naw I never met him. To clarify - it was about .5 miles down a major street that ran right behind my neighborhood to his (the house in all the news videos). He lived there for decades.

I grew up next to where he committed alot of his attacks. Google "Cold Case Earons", that site has details on each one. Not gonna link because the details are very explicit and don't want thread delete.
Originally Posted By x-trainer
So the local NBC DC affiliate did a story on this privacy issue today. Cliffs were that 30 something warrants were issued to the company 23 and me last year for DNA, so they complied. It is true that they compared a family member's dna to the suspects trash and were able to wrap up the case using it. The question to ask yourself is, is the predictive future health benefits that you learn from testing, worth alleviating your fears that you are in a database?

For the record one of my family members is using it in conjunction with his doctors to solve a problem.
Yeah I heard once the cops suspected Deangelo - they surveilled his home and took trash to gather DNA evidence. This was all in the last month.

As for the DNA records - I know police can demand stuff from internet or phone companies and most of the time they will comply. I think when they don't comply it can become a major story, like the FBI–Apple encryption dispute.
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That sketch was pretty good
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Here’s the house I lived next to where one of the double murders happened. The barn house, was red at the time. I think the big double windows is the master.

Then after he killed them he allegedly ran to a creek about 100yards behind the house and disappeared into the creek. Pictured is the bridge by the house and the creek.

There was also another murder on the bridge about 5-10 years ago. Guy was selling a pound of weed. Buyers tried to rob him and he pulled a gun a blew ones head off.



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