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Thread: People who Make Claims of High IQ vs. People who Actually Have a High IQ (srs)

post 1557396591 07-28-2018, 11:25 AM
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Wonder what mine is. How do you do a legitimate, recognized 'test?' wish DNA had the information.
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I’d rather do BDNF than BDSM.

Who cares about smarts anywyas lol I’m more concerned with filling out this XL polo I have with 18 in arm cannons
post 1557397871 07-28-2018, 11:50 AM
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post 1557397911 07-28-2018, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Amino89⏩
Who cares about smarts anywyas lol I’m more concerned with filling out this XL polo I have with 18 in arm cannons
......thankfully not said by our pioneers from history like Newton, Galileo, Harvey, Oersted, Faraday, Maxwell, etc.

(Luckily we've had those people get us to where we are, so you can be posting on the misc in 2018.)

Lol at downplaying "smarts"- basicallythefeature that distinguishes us from the other beasts.
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post 1557398241 07-28-2018, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Dota2Brah⏩
as you said, all the smartest people in the world are too busy getting things done instead of talking to other people about being smart.
lol no, there are plenty of very smart lazy/very distracted people who do nothing useful. Many of them are bogged down by mental illness, drugs, health issues and chit too.
post 1557398441 07-28-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
lol no, there are plenty of very smart lazy/very distracted people.
This is just a matter of definition. Some people in this thread aredefiningsmart to be those people who are out there actively accomplishing things. Under that definition, the person sitting at home lazy, no matter how high their IQ is etc.....is not smart.

But that is just the result of an arbitrary definition of "what smart is" (I dont totally agree with the above definition). No conversation can be had involving terms like smart unless your terms are defined first.
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post 1557398591 07-28-2018, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Some people in this thread aredefiningsmart to be those people who are out there actively accomplishing things.
I am not sure who did that but if that is your definition of high iq I have some bad news.
post 1557398621 07-28-2018, 12:06 PM
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What if I constantly act smart hoping to fool some of the bigger idiots into thinking that I actually am intelligent? Even though I'm aware that my IQ is at least 2 standard deviations below the mean.
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post 1557398781 07-28-2018, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
I am not sure who did that but if that is your definition of high iq I have some bad news.
Not saying it's my definition, I'm saying some ITT are defining it as so (see post #25).

You seem to be defining smart as "high IQ", and that to me is a joke as well.

It all comes down to one's arbitrary definition of course, so there is no "right" answer here.
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post 1557398821 07-28-2018, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By cncman⏩
Wonder what mine is. How do you do a legitimate, recognized 'test?' wish DNA had the information.
go to the local college and have their psych department test you for a registered score.

sign up for a proctored mensa exam in your area, will cost you 60 bucks.
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post 1557399551 07-28-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By CHARBACK⏩
I am not sure who did that but if that is your definition of high iq I have some bad news.
In the video posted above (and quoted by me below), Dr. Peterson is actually lecturing about that very topic.

I don't think anyone is arguing that there is a 1:1 relationship between intelligence and success, but there is a strong correlation.
No, it's not the same thing, but IQ is a reliable predictor of success.
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post 1557399801 07-28-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I don't think anyone is arguing that there is a 1:1 relationship between intelligence and success, but there is a strong correlation.

In the video posted above, Dr. Peterson is actually lecturing about that very topic. So no, it's not the same thing, but IQ is a reliable predictor of success.
If I don't follow any traditional societal paths for success and constantly make horrible decisions that have lasting negative impact on my life but am still successful does that mean I have a high IQ or just lucky?
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post 1557399891 07-28-2018, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By CptClean⏩
If I don't follow any traditional societal paths for success and constantly make horrible decisions that have lasting negative impact on my life but am still successful does that mean I have a high IQ or just lucky?
I think I'd need a lot more information about you to render an opinion about that.
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post 1557399981 07-28-2018, 12:28 PM
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Cliffs:

In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people of low ability have illusory superiority and mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority comes from the inability of low-ability people to recognize their lack of ability; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.[1] On the other hand, people of high ability incorrectly assume that tasks that are easy for them are also easy for other people.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect
post 1557400341 07-28-2018, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Didn't read a single word.
this is the only thing i read in this thread
post 1557400481 07-28-2018, 12:37 PM
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Iq doesn’t mean chit I’ve consistently tested 130 ish since I was like 6 when my mom made me go get tested.

And I’m dumb as bricks. Don’t know any advanced math, have bad grammar etc.


Also op I’ve noticed you consistently invalidate others experiences and realities if you have experienced something different. Fairly close minded and you seem to perceive your generalizations as absolute truth instead of being open to not knowing everything.
post 1557400621 07-28-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
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On the other hand, the smartest people I've ever known aren't sitting around patting themselves on the back and bragging about their IQ. They read. They write. They build things. There are many different types of intelligence (hope for tradies after all).

But the common theme is that they don't often brag about it or flaunt it; ..
OP that is the same with true alphas.

Alphas know they are as do others.

Therefore there isn't any need to brag.
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post 1557400651 07-28-2018, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Also op I’ve noticed you consistently invalidate others experiences and realities if you have experienced something different. Fairly close minded and you seem to perceive your generalizations as absolute truth instead of being open to not knowing everything.
I invalidate the experiences of others?

Can you give an example?
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post 1557401011 07-28-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I invalidate the experiences of others?

Can you give an example?
Tip thread comes to mind where you said it’s a complete crock of chit servers can make around 60-70 an hour comes to mind.

This thread is it’s own example where you would immediately dismiss people claiming a high iq on principal because you hold the belief (which is true). That most people who claim it won’t have it. I believe you treat your knowledge like a poker player and just play the odds and refuse to believe the outliers despite knowing they exist, because odds are they aren’t one. However your bound to be wrong eventually with this approach.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
However your bound to be wrong eventually with this approach.
Is that the point of your criticism?

I can settle that for you easily: I'm wrong all the time.
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post 1557401911 07-28-2018, 01:04 PM
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To people saying stuff about people who are successful etc makes no sense on the topic of Intelligence Quotient.

Each homo sapien brain is uniquely developed and has various patterns and capacities and efficiencies so IQ is an incomplete way to try to compare different types of brains.

So no success in working or life is not a measure of such raw processing capacity.

In fact some of the smartest people I’ve ever met are quite lazy.

Maybe they are average in success but then if you try to challenge them in a test of intelligence like solving a puzzle, troubleshooting a problem, beating you in a form of 1 v 1 mental competition or their capacity to comprehend new systems of information faster than you they would outperform you do to their higher ability to process patterns In the brains.

If you’re really smart first of all you don’t have to work for another grown man and have a boss tell you what to do. Or some people just have a rich family and don’t need to apply their brain power and choose to have fun their whole life.

Also if you are truly smart you realize it’s pointless to try and life is meaningless and most people are actually try hard low IQ *******s brainwashed by society.
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one thing's for sure, op does not have high iq
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I agree with you OP. There's also a saying that the smallest dog barks the loudest. If you have to constantly claim your something your claim is most likely false because other people would have claimed your statement about yourself to be true without you having to yell it to the world.
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i think people with average or low iq just brag about everything too much in general, not just iq
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I can settle that for you easily: I'm wrong all the time.
The interesting thing about "I'm wrong all the time" is it cant be said successfully (for then that very statement is wrong).

From "I'm wrong all the time", you can actually conclude that the person saying it is not wrong all the time:

Let's say John says "Im wrong all the time". There are two cases-

1. John is wrong all the time.

(then the statement "Im wrong all the time" is wrong because it is one of those times, thus John is not wrong all the time, but this contradicts (1) above, and so cant happen).

2. John is not wrong all the time (i.e. there are times when John is not wrong)

(then with the statement "Im wrong all the time", John is either right or wrong. If he is right, then he wrong all the time, which contradicts (2), so we conclude the other option, that he is wrong when he says "I'm wrong all the time".

So the final conclusion is that (2) above is correct, and saying "I'm wrong all the time" itself is wrong, and there are times he is right. Basically this means saying "Im wrong all the time" just means you are saying you are right sometimes.
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OP you're talking out your arse. I'm one of the smartest people in the country. Just because I tell everyone I meet doesn't make me no less more smart.

But seriously, you're right. The "110% IQ only thread" people are the biggest simps.
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There are a couple of miscers I can think of who fit this description, I'm sure they know who they are.
Except they don't know because they're deluded. That's the point.
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I know 3 highly intelligent people and they are all well aware that they are much smarter than the average person. None of them go around saying it or talking about having a high IQ but it's not like they don't know.
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Aren’t you the third grade math teacher that multiplies and divides right to left?


Interesting that you’re speak about Socrates, who is most likely a group of people and not a singular person like you know jack **** about philosophy. Following that premise, you proceed to speak about other people talk about how intelligent they are and how it proves their stupidity, yet your doing the inverse of the same message unironically

P.s. your friends don’t flaunt how stupid you are next to them because they’re your friends, no one else is inclined to do that for you
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
The interesting thing about "I'm wrong all the time" is it cant be said successfully (for then that very statement is wrong).

From "I'm wrong all the time", you can actually conclude that the person saying it is not wrong all the time:

Let's say John says "Im wrong all the time". There are two cases-

1. John is wrong all the time.

(then the statement "Im wrong all the time" is wrong because it is one of those times, thus John is not wrong all the time, but this contradicts (1) above, and so cant happen).

2. John is not wrong all the time (i.e. there are times when John is not wrong)

(then with the statement "Im wrong all the time", John is either right or wrong. If he is right, then he wrong all the time, which contradicts (2), so we conclude the other option, that he is wrong when he says "I'm wrong all the time".

So the final conclusion is that (2) above is correct, and saying "I'm wrong all the time" itself is wrong, and there are times he is right. Basically this means saying "Im wrong all the time" just means you are saying you are right sometimes.
You're quite correct.

My intent was not strictly literal, of course. I meant for that line to be taken something like the following:

I am wrong on a regular basis.

Furthermore, it was more of an attempt at mild self-deprecating humor to avoid having to either defend myself against the accusation being leveled at me or having to admit that particular flaw.
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Originally Posted By DemiBrah⏩
Aren’t you the third grade math teacher that multiplies and divides right to left?
I'm not a third grade math teacher. No I wasn't the one arguing for left-to-right multiplication, whatever that means.

My answer was just as valid as the other possible answer though, the way it was written.
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