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post 1563041431 10-06-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By jbball92⏩
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Yes, they are pioneers and they have classics. But they have some of the worst and most inconsistent discography of all time.
All their classics were released in the 90s except for Supreme Clientele.
OB4CL2 is the only good Wu album that dropped during the 2000s
This ****ery needs to stop
As a group, Wu Tang has 1 classic album (36) and one cool album (Wu Tang Forever)
As solo artists, they have like 5 classics (OB4CL, Supreme Clientele, Liquid Swords, and some I can't think of right now)

Yes, that's it. Out of all the albums they made, only a few are actually worth a listen. The Wu is nowhere top 5 when it comes to hip hop groups.
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Originally Posted By RazorM3⏩
Yes, they are pioneers and they have classics. But they have some of the worst and most inconsistent discography of all time.
All their classics were released in the 90s except for Supreme Clientele.
OB4CL2 is the only good Wu album that dropped during the 2000s
This ****ery needs to stop
As a group, Wu Tang has 1 classic album (36) and one cool album (Wu Tang Forever)
As solo artists, they have like 5 classics (OB4CL, Supreme Clientele, Liquid Swords, and some I can't think of right now)

Yes, that's it. Out of all the albums they made, only a few are actually worth a listen. The Wu is nowhere top 5 when it comes to hip hop groups.
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He had 2 consecutive albums top the previous. Then he started promoting other rappers and got real hard into drugs/sleeping pills/whatever. Its sucks but he peaked early in his career.


I agree with the miscer that said he needs to get back with Dre. One final Dre produced album might be a great way to go out.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
But who was Rock Bottom and If i Had from that album?
Yea, i wasnt saying they all were. Just a lot of them

A lot of the songs seemed like he was just fuking around
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Originally Posted By PowerD⏩
He had 2 consecutive albums top the previous. Then he started promoting other rappers and got real hard into drugs/sleeping pills/whatever. Its sucks but he peaked early in his career.


I agree with the miscer that said he needs to get back with Dre. One final Dre produced album might be a great way to go out.
Wsan't this recent one produced by Dre? Or maybe it was a combination of Em and Dre.
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post 1563047761 10-06-2018, 02:40 PM
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Em still has that underground vibe to him, one verse of his is more complicated than a whole song of any other "rapper" you hear on the radio today.
Cant be putting him in the same conversation as Drake, Lil pump, Lil Yachty or any other Lil shi**ies, thats for sure.
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His technical abilities and rhyme schemes are pretty damn good. His Slim Shady persona was hilarious, the Marshall Mathers stuff is twisted and dark. I think he fell off when he started doing that stupid "Borat" accent thing, but I haven't really listened to his entire discography. Infinite, Slim Shady, MM, and Eminem Show are the four I gave a shot. By the time Eminem Show hit I was already discovering too many metal bands to really keep up.
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Stay Wide Awake verse 3 is still the best verse in rap history. It's the smoothest verse there is
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not really a point but has eminem influenced rap at all? i don't know any rapper that has an eminem type influence in their music. maybe hopsin but he is garbage. joyner too but he's too preachy/corny
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Wsan't this recent one produced by Dre? Or maybe it was a combination of Em and Dre.
yea it was. production was ok on kamikaze.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Stay Wide Awake verse 3 is still the best verse in rap history. It's the smoothest verse there is
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Originally Posted By WorldClassDBag⏩
i wouldn't say overrated but most of his fans are terrible or don't listen to anyone other than eminem.

he's one of the GOATs and arguably the greatest rapper alive but like i said his fanbase is toxic.
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Originally Posted By WorldClassDBag⏩
not really a point but has eminem influenced rap at all? i don't know any rapper that has an eminem type influence in their music. maybe hopsin but he is garbage. joyner too but he's too preachy/corny
This. His overall influence is really marginal IMO.
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Originally Posted By RazorM3⏩
Yes, they are pioneers and they have classics. But they have some of the worst and most inconsistent discography of all time.
All their classics were released in the 90s except for Supreme Clientele.
OB4CL2 is the only good Wu album that dropped during the 2000s
This ****ery needs to stop
As a group, Wu Tang has 1 classic album (36) and one cool album (Wu Tang Forever)
As solo artists, they have like 5 classics (OB4CL, Supreme Clientele, Liquid Swords, and some I can't think of right now)

Yes, that's it. Out of all the albums they made, only a few are actually worth a listen. The Wu is nowhere top 5 when it comes to hip hop groups.
****ing lmao can’t be serious both individually and as group every member of the wutang has too 5 lyrical ability there’s a reason liquid swords and ob4cl are regarded as two of the greatest albums of all time

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Ghost face alone has more classic albums than feminem or any other rappers career

Even on logics latest track they have shown GOAT status abilities at an old age

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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY⏩
No, that title goes to Tupac and Biggie.
Great music, and I hate to agree with you, but yeah let’s be real apart from two albums (50% decent tracks on each) and a couple more tracks with Junior MAFIA Biggie is overrated.

Tupac not so much, he lives eternal as one of the GOATS.


Eminem early (hungry) version was goat tho.

Amazing lyrics and decent producing via Dre.

Pity his voice is so high pitched and nasally.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
His technical abilities and rhyme schemes are pretty damn good. His Slim Shady persona was hilarious, the Marshall Mathers stuff is twisted and dark. I think he fell off when he started doing that stupid "Borat" accent thing, but I haven't really listened to his entire discography. Infinite, Slim Shady, MM, and Eminem Show are the four I gave a shot. By the time Eminem Show hit I was already discovering too many metal bands to really keep up.
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Originally Posted By jbball92⏩
****ing lmao can’t be serious both individually and as group every member of the wutang has too 5 lyrical ability there’s a reason liquid swords and ob4cl are regarded as two of the greatest albums of all time

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Wt4 ever

Ghost face alone has more classic albums than feminem or any other rappers career

Even on logics latest track they have shown GOAT status abilities at an old age

Inb4 you try to tell me bone thugs or nwa are better
Bone thugs ARE better than Wu tang, deal with it
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Originally Posted By Anthony21⏩
Yeah I don't know what kind of trip he was on during that Borat voice phase.
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Bone thugs ARE better than Wu tang, deal with it
bone thugs are basically if boyz 2 men decided they wanted to be pretend thugs
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY⏩
No, that title goes to Tupac and Biggie.
Typical - 'name the best artists in a genre and call them overrated'

Biggie's flow is still GOAT and Tupac's message and Shakespearean prose was ridiculous (then again he did go to a white boy's posh school).

OP just sounds like a butt-hurt (no pun intended) Elton John fan
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Yes Eminem is the most overrated rapper ever.
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Originally Posted By jbball92⏩
bone thugs are basically if boyz 2 men decided they wanted to be pretend thugs
LOL your taste is chit
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Originally Posted By Refeed⏩
Dude was popping one too many pills then.
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He gets stick for being white, but is IMO easily in the top 3 from 1995 onwards.
Eazy E never wrote his own lines
Drake doesnt write his own lines
Many others likely dont
Em has written everything he has ever released.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
He gets stick for being white, but is IMO easily in the top 3 from 1995 onwards.
Eazy E never wrote his own lines
Drake doesnt write his own lines
Many others likely dont
Em has written everything he has ever released.
This

He also has like 100 top tier verses with other artists like 50 cent, Dre, Xzibit, TI, D12 the list goes on. All top tier. It's really not even close all anyone can say is he is old now and isn't as good or he has released like 4 bad albums lol. That doesn't mean much when he literally has 2-3x more top tier material than any other rapper
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
This

He also has like 100 top tier verses with other artists like 50 cent, Dre, Xzibit, TI, D12 the list goes on. All top tier. It's really not even close all anyone can say is he is old now and isn't as good or he has released like 4 bad albums lol. That doesn't mean much when he literally has 2-3x more top tier material than any other rapper
4/10 albums being bad isn't that good of a track record lol

another point of eminem being overrated is his influence on rap. other than inspiring other white rappers, he has almost zero influence on rap.
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