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Thread: If you take lifting seriously and you’re not lean, why the fuk aren’t you?

post 1568538461 12-13-2018, 08:44 AM
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In order to get your LBM up, at some point for a period of time you're going to need to eat at surplus and but on some bf. During that time your probably going to have a higher bf%, say 15-17%, before you can cut.
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post 1568538531 12-13-2018, 08:45 AM
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I look at it as a longterm investment. Bulk and hold some more bloat for the moment but look better when you cut and lean out.

Inb4 gain muscle and progress while maintaining. Good luck with that when natty srs, lmao
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post 1568538751 12-13-2018, 08:47 AM
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I like food
post 1568539141 12-13-2018, 08:51 AM
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Family life has put some pounds on me but I'm working on getting it back down. Hopefully around Feb or March I'll have a cutting results thread
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post 1568539381 12-13-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Think I’m like 7% bf right now. Can’t even remember the last time I was above 10%
What's your lifting routine?
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post 1568539491 12-13-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By wrastler163⏩
I like food
I do too.

You can like food, eat whatever you want, but there's really not an excuse for over eating.
post 1568539551 12-13-2018, 08:55 AM
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well to be lean requires losing weight, and i hate losing
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post 1568539591 12-13-2018, 08:55 AM
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If you’re not natty then it’s possible
post 1568539801 12-13-2018, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By nyknicks500⏩
What's your lifting routine?
Nothing special, 5 day split. Lift 5-6 times a week. I do IF and eat pretty clean but don't specifically track macros. Been lifting seriously for about 6 or 7 years now. I was skinny with abs before I started lifting, and have always had a hard time putting on weight, so I essentially just did a slow bulk over the last 6 years. Maintaining my body fat below 10% is actually effortless, it's just natural to me. Guess I was blessed in that way
post 1568539811 12-13-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Not buying it. I’ve never dieted in all my life, I eat takeout on average once a day and drink maybe 1-2x a month with friends. Have a GF and go out all the time, order whatever I want including dessert.

There’s a disconnect you’re not mentioning. It’s one thing to enjoy food and another to totally overeat all week long and wallow in self pity.
Genetics.
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post 1568539821 12-13-2018, 08:57 AM
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if i'm not as ripped as rambo 3, i'm not happy, srs
post 1568540201 12-13-2018, 09:01 AM
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Op is right. Unless it's something out of one's control (diseases or illness), one should always lean bulk. lol @ trying to gain fat so I can lift most amount of weight, fuk do that only if you are in strongman chit
post 1568540291 12-13-2018, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Genetics.
Maybe if genetics include a predisposition to overeating or a family that has always had unhealthy relationships with food. If you're conditioned as a child to eat until you cannot eat anymore then you're certainly going to need to break that conditioning at some point and understand basic portion control.
post 1568540511 12-13-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Maybe if genetics include a predisposition to overeating or a family that has always had unhealthy relationships with food. If you're conditioned as a child to eat until you cannot eat anymore then you're certainly going to need to break that conditioning at some point and understand basic portion control.
post 1568540571 12-13-2018, 09:04 AM
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I like beer.
post 1568540641 12-13-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Yeah, I am stage ready. Not even exaggerating
Curious to see what your stage ready looks like bro.
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post 1568540761 12-13-2018, 09:06 AM
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Definitely feels good to be lean/have people jelly of your physique

That said, I enjoy lifting but I also enjoy eating.

I do not enjoy diet. Eating lots and lifting go together pretty well. After summer is over it feels good to be able to eat whatever the fuk you want for a few months and not obsess over diet.

I have kids/family so it's not as if I'm trying to impress women anyways
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post 1568541131 12-13-2018, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
I like beer.
This.
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post 1568541191 12-13-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Are you saying in order to move more weight you need to gain body fat? If you’re a passionate powerlifter, why not pick a weight class that is a functional weight for you to maintain without putting additional strain on your body with high body fat?

I totally reject your argument.
Mass moves mass. There's a reason there are weight classes in strength sports. While that isn't an excuse for someone to eat like a pig, the adage still applies.

What's more befuddling is why you're so concerned with what someone else's training goals are.
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post 1568541311 12-13-2018, 09:12 AM
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If I have visible abs, I'm lean enough for me.

What kills me, is no matter how lean I get, I'm never vascular. I have one bicep vein, and if I diet hard I get that shoulder/chest one. I see people at way higher bf percentages, way more vascular and I just kinda bert stare.
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post 1568541421 12-13-2018, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Don’t want to be too lean. A bit softer looks better imo. I like where I’m at now and just want to maintain.
This. I'm 37, and pretty sure anyone who's too lean at my gym just looks like a toolbag. I have visible definition, visible abs, etc, but at a certain point looking like you obsess with the gym just attracts sloots when most guys are actually looking for decent women.
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post 1568541481 12-13-2018, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
Could care less if he is or isn't that's not the point.

Are you saying major strength gains can be accomplished naturally on a deficit or maintenance calories required to stay lean?
It matters. If I used supplements it'd be easy to be ripped.
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post 1568541751 12-13-2018, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Maybe if genetics include a predisposition to overeating or a family that has always had unhealthy relationships with food. If you're conditioned as a child to eat until you cannot eat anymore then you're certainly going to need to break that conditioning at some point and understand basic portion control.
You really are delusional.
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post 1568541821 12-13-2018, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted By BohemianSlav⏩
I look at it as a longterm investment. Bulk and hold some more bloat for the moment but look better when you cut and lean out.

Inb4 gain muscle and progress while maintaining. Good luck with that when natty srs, lmao
you will be fine doing what you're doing. you're only 22 and in next 6 years you'll get bigger and wider just from aging as a man. All the work you put in will show. Wish I started at your age.

For me, I am resolving to lean out some in 2019.

But you're right OP, why not lean out since we're into lifting. I feel fortunate that I haven't blown up like many guys my age in similar lifestyle. I eat like a horse and have only gotten fat over a 5 year period. I'll post a pic of my fat ass from last summer.
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post 1568542901 12-13-2018, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
You really are delusional.
No he isn't. Are you saying people are "genetically fat?" That is a complete farce. Genetics might play a role in how your body stores fat but if you are fat it's because you have consistently eaten more calories than your body burned. Inb4 "thyroid" a completely inactive thyroid lowers one's Basal Metabolic Rate 5-10 percent which for most people is like 100 cals tops. Not trying to be a dick but I get tired of people saying they are fat due to genetics or their "biology" (literally saw a fat chick I went to college drop that one on someone in a ******** argument.) A person is fat because they eat more than they need. Period.


Also can confirm, am currently fat from overeating. For me its beer. Drink beers with friends and then impulse control goes out the window and I crush whataburger.
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Originally Posted By Acal83⏩
No he isn't. Are you saying people are "genetically fat?" That is a complete farce. Genetics might play a role in how your body stores fat but if you are fat it's because you have consistently eaten more calories than your body burned. Inb4 "thyroid" a completely inactive thyroid lowers one's Basal Metabolic Rate 5-10 percent which for most people is like 100 cals tops. Not trying to be a dick but I get tired of people saying they are fat due to genetics or their "biology" (literally saw a fat chick I went to college drop that one on someone in a ******** argument.) A person is fat because they eat more than they need. Period.


Also can confirm, am currently fat from overeating. For me its beer. Drink beers with friends and then impulse control goes out the window and I crush whataburger.
If that's true I must have the most efficient body on the planet because I predict I'll be down to 1500 cals a day by the time my cut is over.
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post 1568543351 12-13-2018, 09:33 AM
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Well I wanted to compete at WSM and you gotta be like 350+ to Maximize your chances there. Don't mention genetic outliers, 95% of pros aren't particularly lean (even Thor goes up to 420+ for WSM and looks like a bloatlord).


But I've kinda given up on that so I'm leaning out now because I wanna actually see these muscles hidden under my fat. Also got tired of sleep apnea and feeling like death just walking through the grocery store for 20 minutes.
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post 1568543391 12-13-2018, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Acal83⏩
No he isn't. Are you saying people are "genetically fat?" That is a complete farce. Genetics might play a role in how your body stores fat but if you are fat it's because you have consistently eaten more calories than your body burned. Inb4 "thyroid" a completely inactive thyroid lowers one's Basal Metabolic Rate 5-10 percent which for most people is like 100 cals tops. Not trying to be a dick but I get tired of people saying they are fat due to genetics or their "biology" (literally saw a fat chick I went to college drop that one on someone in a ******** argument.) A person is fat because they eat more than they need. Period.


Also can confirm, am currently fat from overeating. For me its beer. Drink beers with friends and then impulse control goes out the window and I crush whataburger.
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post 1568543401 12-13-2018, 09:34 AM
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Because you get 2-3x the quality/quantity of boners when you're around 17% bf?
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