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post 1568535361 12-13-2018, 08:06 AM
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If you take lifting seriously and you’re not lean, why the fuk aren’t you?

What’s the excuse? Why dedicate yourself to the gym, only to hold onto completely unnecessary body fat?

Inb4 I want to hit x,xxx total. That’s a goddamn excuse, do it while maintaining a healthy balance.

Most people don’t make lifting a priority to find a coping mechanism to remain fat, it’s totally ass backwards. The only legitimate excuse is if lifting is somehow your career and the extra body weight is necessary for your competitiveness.
post 1568535411 12-13-2018, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
What’s the excuse? Why dedicate yourself to the gym, only to hold onto completely unnecessary body fat?

Inb4 I want to hit x,xxx total. That’s a goddamn excuse, do it while maintaining a healthy balance.

Most people don’t make lifting a priority to find a coping mechanism to remain fat, it’s totally ass backwards. The only legitimate excuse is if lifting is somehow your career and the extra body weight is necessary for your competitiveness.
What's your lean threshold? AVI?
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post 1568535721 12-13-2018, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
What's your lean threshold? AVI?
Clear separation for every major muscle group.
post 1568535831 12-13-2018, 08:13 AM
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I workout to maintain the lifestyle I have.

1) Im doing a +1 positive as opposed to a -1 activity towards my health.
2) Allows me to not give a fck about my diet eat and drink like a total glutton and not be 400lb's
3) I generally enjoy going to the gym, lifting solo, listening to music. Its a relaxing 1 hour for me.


That being said I'm way too fat right now, just not dedicated enough to diet 7days/week when I got a GF, friends & family to hang with all the time.
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post 1568535971 12-13-2018, 08:16 AM
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post 1568536051 12-13-2018, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
That being said I'm way too fat right now, just not dedicated enough to diet 7days/week when I got a GF, friends & family to hang with all the time.
How fat are you? This just sounds like cope.
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post 1568536061 12-13-2018, 08:17 AM
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diet is the hard part for most people. training is not.
post 1568536301 12-13-2018, 08:20 AM
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post 1568536431 12-13-2018, 08:22 AM
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still have clear separation for every muscle group, just slap on quite a bit of bloat/water/fat on my abs early on

i find that for me its easier to progress if i have some fluff on me
post 1568536441 12-13-2018, 08:22 AM
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post 1568536501 12-13-2018, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
I workout to maintain the lifestyle I have.

1) Im doing a +1 positive as opposed to a -1 activity towards my health.
2) Allows me to not give a fck about my diet eat and drink like a total glutton and not be 400lb's
3) I generally enjoy going to the gym, lifting solo, listening to music. Its a relaxing 1 hour for me.


That being said I'm way too fat right now, just not dedicated enough to diet 7days/week when I got a GF, friends & family to hang with all the time.
Not buying it. I’ve never dieted in all my life, I eat takeout on average once a day and drink maybe 1-2x a month with friends. Have a GF and go out all the time, order whatever I want including dessert.

There’s a disconnect you’re not mentioning. It’s one thing to enjoy food and another to totally overeat all week long and wallow in self pity.
post 1568536561 12-13-2018, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Crooze⏩
How fat are you? This just sounds like cope.
Haven't ever gotten my BMI properly done, and I don't trust those handhelds lmao. But I'd say Im probably 20% BF.
Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Not buying it. I’ve never dieted in all my life, I eat takeout on average once a day and drink maybe 1-2x a month with friends. Have a GF and go out all the time, order whatever I want including dessert.

There’s a disconnect you’re not mentioning. It’s one thing to enjoy food and another to totally overeat all week long and wallow in self pity.
lel no self pity here. Came to give insight as to why some people lift and aren't mega lean.

I've never been one to try genetics or any crap like that. But I can tell you during the week I'm usually eating my 2 prepped meals/day (IF), Might have 3-5 beers throughout the week after dinner. I'll grab Chipotle or Pollo or something x1-2/week if the scheduling is too tight.

And yes I DEFINITELY binge drink/eat on the weekends. But chit, I don't go out to no fckin restaurant and pay $12 for chicken and veggies lmao. Rather stay home.
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post 1568536881 12-13-2018, 08:28 AM
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after bloatmaxxing for two years, started a very slow cut in March. Down 33 pounds (220 starting, 187 as of last weekend...@6 foot). Being lighter feels entirely better on my body, I was an idiot for letting it go so far. Looking to get down to 175-180, which shouldn't be too difficult at this rate.

My lifts have definitely stalled, but I'll push through that
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post 1568536891 12-13-2018, 08:28 AM
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For natty, because surplus to gain strength =/= clear definition of said groups?

Not disagreeing with you, but feel like I take lifting serious and can't see my abs ATM on bulk, but I'm not bloated/fat either. For late teens/early 20s this might be a different story.
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post 1568536991 12-13-2018, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By DntFukinTalk2Me⏩
Lost 40lbs in a few months and got down to 12%(ish) and have been lean bulking from there since

OP is right. Being lean is so much better. I look and feel 10x better than when I was bloatmaxxing
Yep.

Better self condifce, clothes fit better, better cardio health, not dragging around unnecessary weight and looking like a buffoon after being winded from walking up a few flights of stairs, list goes on.

Can’t imagine why you’d want the opposite of those things to add another 50lbs on your squat.
post 1568537101 12-13-2018, 08:30 AM
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Different people have different goals. Although, it's very easy to hit the gym and train hard, make decent progress and not be overly concerned with diet and remain pudgy Dad-body mode.

Do you look better leaner? Sure. The more mass you have the higher a bodyfat % you look good at, but for almost everyone, that means 10-12% to look good and any higher means you don't look good. Unless you're a big motherfuker, in which case, you might look great at 15%. Most of us are not big motherfukers, though.
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post 1568537121 12-13-2018, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
For natty, because surplus to gain strength =/= clear definition of said groups?

Not disagreeing with you, but feel like I take lifting serious and can't see my abs ATM on bulk, but I'm not bloated/fat either. For late teens/early 20s this might be a different story.
Are you saying allianc3 is not natty ?
post 1568537251 12-13-2018, 08:32 AM
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Want to know my current biggest motivation for dropping few lb's?




.... Being able to conceal carry a bigger firearm :P
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post 1568537441 12-13-2018, 08:34 AM
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Think I’m like 7% bf right now. Can’t even remember the last time I was above 10%
post 1568537541 12-13-2018, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Are you saying allianc3 is not natty ?
Could care less if he is or isn't that's not the point.

Are you saying major strength gains can be accomplished naturally on a deficit or maintenance calories required to stay lean?
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post 1568537681 12-13-2018, 08:37 AM
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Because they don’t take their diet seriously? Or because they’re powerlifters who prefer moving weight to cutting it? Pretty simple stuff OP (*******)
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
Could care less if he is or isn't that's not the point.

Are you saying major strength gains can be accomplished naturally on a deficit or maintenance calories required to stay lean?
Deficit no, maintenance yes.
post 1568537801 12-13-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Think I’m like 7% bf right now. Can’t even remember the last time I was above 10%
Good for you bro, that’s definitely on the more extreme end but if that’s a body comp you’ve become comfortable maintaining that’s quite impressive.
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Think I’m like 7% bf right now. Can’t even remember the last time I was above 10%
if even half way accurate mirin hard
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Clear separation for every major muscle group.
My muscle groups are clearly separated by body fat. What prize do I win?
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No reason to be over 15-17% BF ever imo.
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Originally Posted By DntFukinTalk2Me⏩
You get lean first and lean bulk from there dummy. And yes you can still gain some on maintenance though its optimal to bulk at a steady pace.
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Deficit no, maintenance yes.
Thanks bros link me some programs and/or progress photos of this type of training. If it pans out I'll convert today.
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post 1568538381 12-13-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Mlinebacker0⏩
Because they don’t take their diet seriously? Or because they’re powerlifters who prefer moving weight to cutting it? Pretty simple stuff OP (*******)
Are you saying in order to move more weight you need to gain body fat? If you’re a passionate powerlifter, why not pick a weight class that is a functional weight for you to maintain without putting additional strain on your body with high body fat?

I totally reject your argument.
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Originally Posted By DntFukinTalk2Me⏩
So you're stage ready yeah? Lol. Fuk outta here
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