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post 1600164961 03-19-2020, 05:17 AM
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My brother is a fuking neurosurgeon and he told me this is basically a fuking plague and that everyone over 60 is at high risk and should stay home. He said all nonessential activity should be halted and that things will blow up in the coming weeks. IDK wtf you are smoking but this is not a joke. This is misinformation. You will see in the coming weeks that this is not some hype manufactured by the media. Tens of millions in this world will die. Worst case is about 1 or 2 mill for the US, and bs like what you are spreading doesn't help.

Literally fist yourself

If you don't believe me, go to your local hospital and ask how bad it is. They are starting to only see essential patients who are at risk of death. Things are serious. They are planning for the system to be completely overwhelmed.

Stay at home.
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Think about it:

crowded ass cruise ship, quarantined for close to month at least. 3711 passengers and crew. 712 infected. 7 deaths.

Is that like 0.2% fatality rate? or do I suck at math?? Am I missing something here??

Media just creating mass hysteria for some reason.
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Originally Posted By blakus_javus
If it is a media created panic fuelled by conspiring virologists after money- why did it start in China who completely control their media and who promptly sacked & arrested or demoted most of the medical staff in the province of origin?

If you're saying western virologists capitalised to fuel a panic- why did China react so hard, so early to the point of literally emergency building new hospitals at ground zero to try and handle the caseload/danger? What was THEIR motivation?

Do you even Occam's Razor?
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Originally Posted By wincel321
and that everyone over 60 is at high risk
Bingo.Now limit that to 60+ with pre-existing health condition and one foot already in the grave and you have your actual group of people that are threatened by this flu.

Also true for every other virus that's around every other year as well.The only actual difference between that and now is media hysteria and retards hogging toilet paper.You can try hard but you won't find another.

Too bad these vulnerable groups seem to be the only ones not giving a **** about it as well and the only ones going outside at least where i am at.Corona was in the right place at the right time to spread and that's all there is to it.
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Originally Posted By StefStefenson
Bingo.Now limit that to 60+ with pre-existing health condition and one foot already in the grave and you have your actual group of people that are threatened by this flu.

Also true for every other virus that's around every other year as well.The only actual difference between that and now is media hysteria and retards hogging toilet paper.You can try hard but you won't find another.

Too bad these vulnerable groups seem to be the only ones not giving a **** about it as well and the only ones going outside at least where i am at.Corona was in the right place at the right time to spread and that's all there is to it.
No. It is much more serious than flu. Anyone with a respiratory condition is potentially fuked. My bro said to take it very seriously and to make my dad stop going out. Again, he's a doctor. You guys who are saying this chit doesn't matter are going to get a lot of ppl killed. This isn't hysteria. We're in for a serious ride here. I didn't take it srsly before, but he told me it is rly srs.
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Well if Germany can cure this damn virus, the world will forgive them for the atrocities of ww2
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They want to get more funds by causing a global depression for the next ten years. Absolutely flawless conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted By wincel321
No. It is much more serious than flu. Anyone with a respiratory condition is potentially fuked. My bro said to take it very seriously and to make my dad stop going out. Again, he's a doctor. You guys who are saying this chit doesn't matter are going to get a lot of ppl killed. This isn't hysteria. We're in for a serious ride here. I didn't take it srsly before, but he told me it is rly srs.
I will not care until someone stops ignoring the elephant in the room and admits what the actual threat level is for a healthy young adult without a pre-existing condition.I can understand all of us taking it up the ass to protect those few that are actually vulnerable to it but things must be made clear and the old fuks need to actually stay at home for it to matter.Where i am at they are the only ones going outside.If you are gonna shut down whole countries them lock them the fuk in their homes for it to make some level of sense.
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Originally Posted By darkninja67
Think about it:

crowded ass cruise ship, quarantined for close to month at least. 3711 passengers and crew. 712 infected. 7 deaths.

Is that like 0.2% fatality rate? or do I suck at math?? Am I missing something here??

Media just creating mass hysteria for some reason.
The death rate is deaths over infected. So almost 1%.

In Italy the death rate is over 8%.

Source:https://covid19info.live/
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost
They want to get more funds by causing a global depression for the next ten years. Absolutely flawless conspiracy theory.
Nobody would've wanted to get it out of hand like this of course. Btw, other agendas could be as play too.
Originally Posted By BredRoller
The death rate is deaths over infected. So almost 1%.

In Italy the death rate is over 8%.

Source:https://covid19info.live/
Nobody knows for sure if those deaths are really from corona. And of the number of infected is much higher.
Originally Posted By StefStefenson
I will not care until someone stops ignoring the elephant in the room and admits what the actual threat level is for a healthy young adult without a pre-existing condition.I can understand all of us taking it up the ass to protect those few that are actually vulnerable to it but things must be made clear and the old fuks need to actually stay at home for it to matter.Where i am at they are the only ones going outside.If you are gonna shut down whole countries them lock them the fuk in their homes for it to make some level of sense.
I've found one article stating 1/5 of young adults will land in the hospital because of covid though, but of course from those how many had underlying issues?
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Originally Posted By davik
it is time to panic. people like this are like flat earthers, they are counter mainstream but the common sense and facts speak to the opposite! you dont tank economies and close borders if itsd ****ing nothing !
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Originally Posted By BredRoller
The death rate is deaths over infected. So almost 1%.

In Italy the death rate is over 8%.
Nope.The death rate is identical to the flu all things considered in people without pre-existing conditions.
Way more people have been infected than it has been recorded.Here in Greece there are about 500 confirmed infected and 5 deaths.We have a disproportionate amount of older folks here and still only 5 deaths,all of them 55+ with pre-existing conditions.Probably tens of times as many actual infected compared to just the confirmed cases because NOBODY is getting tested.
By the way we are right next to Italy and people here still do **** like gather in churches and sip from the same spoon to receive communion.The old geezers don't give a damn and still go outside and gather in cafeterias etc.
That in a country with laughable healthcare that had open borders to Italy until not too long ago.And you Mericans are acting like you are scared for your lives...
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Lol at comparing a virologist with a flat earther.

Surely it's impossible there could be any groups profitting from this global panic.
It's not just about profit, it's about being important and justifying your job. Imagine you're an infectious disease researcher. Your job is to make sure the next plague doesn't come along. But we haven't gotten any plagues, because they are very rare, and we're good at handling stuff. But now you have a bad virus that's wrecking old people or others with chit immune systems. It's no plague, but at least it's a chance for you to be useful. You go out and say "thousands or millions are gonna die if precautions aren't taken". People hear that and panic. You don't mention that these people dying didn't have much time left on the Earth anyway, or that the majority of healthy people don't even notice that they get it. It doesn't matter, your job is to prevent death and now you can. Nevermind that you are disrupting daily life for literally everybody, this is your job and you need to save everybody.

It's not actually as bad as climate scientists, who continued to straight up lie that we'd be ****ed if we didn't completely destroy our society and industry even after looking like retards and having their predictions fail. This one has a bit of a moral element to it. Some people are just convinced that death is bad no matter who gets it, and that no price is too large to pay in order to save lives.
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99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
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What did Chinese virologists have to gain when speaking out about the virus meant possible jail time? What did the Chinese have to gain by massively shutting down their economy and strictly quarantining large swaths of their population? Why are there mass graves being dug in Iran with their government warning that millions more die unless the population follows quarantine measures? What special interests in the healthcare market / virologists are benefiting there?

OP is an idiot.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
And about 50% had 3 illnesses or more.Average age of deceased 79,5.Life expectancy in Italy 82.
ALL of the victims under the age of 40 had SERIOUS medical conditions before they were infected.One foot in the grave all day.

Out of over 100.000+ people NOT A SINGLE healthy young adult deceased after corona virus infection.They only barely manage to bloat the alleged death rate to over 1% while clearly underestimating the actual number of the infected.Clown show.
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Originally Posted By ****inator



Cliffs: Media created panic fuelled by virologists who wanted to make some noise to get more funds and attention ultimately pressuring politics in to taking drastic measures
To give some context, on who the guy is, since hge is semi-famous here in Germany.
- a politician of the moderate left/social democratic party (SPD)
- got famous for being one of the few anti-imigration guys in that party
- former vice chief of the moderate left in the EU parliament
- chairman of lots of NGOs like this onehttps://www.transparency.de/en/

The translation in that video is also a bit extreme. He is saying that it is not proven to be dangerous and people have not yet researched how dangerous it is. (He does not conclude it being harmless, just the panic being based on stuff those scientists cannot know.)
Originally Posted By ****inator
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
While this shows Corona to not be that deadly, it is not necessesarily a reason to slow down security measures. People with MRSA, AIDS etc. exist. We shouldn't just murder them by introducing some highly infective flu to the mix.
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014
What did Chinese virologists have to gain when speaking out about the virus meant possible jail time? What did the Chinese have to gain by massively shutting down their economy and strictly quarantining large swaths of their population? Why are there mass graves being dug in Iran with their government warning that millions more die unless the population follows quarantine measures? What special interests in the healthcare market / virologists are benefiting there?

OP is an idiot.
You're the idiot, *******.

The chinese reaction was an overreaction because the virus was completely unknown months back, no **** they didn't want any panic in the beginning but after a while were doubting if this was serious or not, extreme reaction by government then. Btw, chinese reaction to anything can be draconian, it's how **** works there.

And everyone, including Iran is of course pissing their pants because they don't know **** about this virus. And we don't know if the deaths are because of COVID or something else, check Bloomberg article above about Italy.

You don't think virologists want more funds? Of course they didn't think **** would escalate like this. And could be other agendas at play too, who knows?

Stay rational and calm *******s.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Oh look more an more doctors talking about how overrated this **** really is:

Oh look, you trying to validate your feeling that this virus is no big deal.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
So the deaths are meaningless? They don't matter?
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter
Oh look, you trying to validate your feeling that this virus is no big deal.
In the end nobody knows, more doctors are saying different things, you want to ignore that to validate your feeling this is a legit hysteria so you can cry like a girl?
Originally Posted By PlanoLifter
So the deaths are meaningless? They don't matter?
Where did I say that *******? Every death matters, what also matters is how many deaths will follow because of the draconian measures in place.
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"Exclusive: Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier
Instead of creating immunity the virus can reportedly reinfect an individual and hasten fatal heart attack"

https://archive.is/Iw58p#selection-545.0-549.106
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Originally Posted By StefStefenson
Bingo.Now limit that to 60+ with pre-existing health condition and one foot already in the grave and you have your actual group of people that are threatened by this flu.

....

Too bad these vulnerable groups seem to be the only ones not giving a **** about it as well and the only ones going outside at least where i am at.Corona was in the right place at the right time to spread and that's all there is to it.
I think one of the reasons 60+ year olds seem not to be too worried is because we survived a lot already.
We survived;
The mumps
The measles.
German Measles
Chicken pox

Have any of you younglings contracted those diseases?

Believe me those were not fun times catching those diseases.

Then there was;
1957 flu pandemic
1968 flu pandemic
Swine Flu
SARS

For some perspective and info I'll post this again here;

https://hdclump.com/the-flu-that-killed-50-million/


STAY CALM!

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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC
"Exclusive: Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier
Instead of creating immunity the virus can reportedly reinfect an individual and hasten fatal heart attack"

https://archive.is/Iw58p#selection-545.0-549.106
"According to the message forwarded to Taiwan News, “It’s highly possible to get infected a second time. A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure.”

Because of the meds they used to help them it seems.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Lol at comparing a virologist with a flat earther.

Surely it's impossible there could be any groups profitting from this global panic.
Yeah the world going into a recession and multi billion dollar buyouts to the people who can’t work are exactly what the government wanted

Fuk the amount of stupidity you conspiracy theorists possess is mind boggling

You guys have zero regard for actual common sense
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[QUOTE=****inator post_id=1600171241]"According to the message forwarded to Taiwan News, “It’s highly possible to get infected a second time. A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time,[b] the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse,]/b] and they die a sudden death from heart failure.”

....[/QUOTE]Watch the video I posted about the Spanish Flu, which actually started in Kansas, a similar thing happened.
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Originally Posted By RealAesthetic
Yeah the world going into a recession and multi billion dollar buyouts to the people who can’t work are exactly what the government wanted

Fuk the amount of stupidity you conspiracy theorists possess is mind boggling

You guys have zero regard for actual common sense
Yeah mass global media created hysteria surely doesn't put any pressure on governments. And we don't know what agendas are going on behind the curtains.
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Originally Posted By deltpecx
Watch the video I posted about the Spanish Flu, which actually started in Kansas, a similar thing happened.
Am watching now, very interesting.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Yeah mass global media created hysteria surely doesn't put any pressure on governments. And we don't know what agendas are going on behind the curtains.
So how would you have handled this outbreak?
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Of course it's overrated it has like 2% death rate if your over 60 and retards are panicking shutting everything down like it's 50% death rate or worse.
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