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Holy chit, just seen the video of the guy in Georgia murdered by a father and son
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
You realize we would have never even heard about this if not for the video? Thats the point. THis crap does happen but we never find out and only in the last few years has video helped bring some of the bs to lightThis is terrible and those two guys should be brought to justice. But theres too much media attention. Nobody cared when that black guy stabbed and killed female jogger Wendy Martinez. People are acting like this stuff happens to black people all the time
05-09-2020, 11:59 AM
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05-09-2020, 11:59 AM
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Why does it look like its summer in Georgia in February
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
That's exactly what I'm talking about. You just made a 'muh emotions' post based on ignorance and not reality.LMAAAAO you cant arrest him for no crime.
They saw a black guy and assumed he was a criminal, stalked him and killed him. Fuk off
They saw a black guy and assumed he was a criminal, stalked him and killed him. Fuk off
Now on to reality: Georgia does in fact have a citizen's arrest law. See here:
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1604433531
Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Yep.
Here is Georgia's law on citizen's arrest -
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia...cle-4/17-4-60/
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
If I'm understanding it correctly so far .... they clearly -thought- they had grounds for making a citizen's arrest because they were on the phone with 911 to that effect. Whether that actually shakes out or not legally will probably be based on a long drawn out rehashing of all the facts and evidence like the Zimmerman trial.
... and then as to the shooting itself - if their attempts at citizen's arrest were lawful, then the use of deadly force became justified once Arbery attacked the elder man with the shotgun and tried to disarm him of his shotgun. Their attempts at citizen's arrest may not have been lawful however, and if that's the case then it would change from a justifiable homicide to then being an aggravated assault followed by murder.
It all will depend on a lot of facts and evidence about what Mr. Arbery did or didn't do prior to them trying to stop him, and what the McMichaels did or did not witness or know about directly .... facts which we don't know all of yet and/or can't be sure of yet and that will have to be drawn out at trial (unless there is a plea).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...e_the_shooting
Burglaries
Two burglaries had occurred in the Satilla Shores neighborhood in 2020 before the shooting.[17] Only one burglary was reported to Glynn County police between January 1 to February 23, 2020. The theft was of a pistol from a pickup truck outside Travis McMichael's house on January 1, 53 days before the killing. His father, Gregory McMichael, had not locked the truck in the morning, and an hour later, Travis discovered that a Smith & Wesson M&P 9 mm had been stolen.[24] The other burglary was some 30 days prior; $2,500 of fishing equipment had been stolen from an unsecured property that was still under construction, but the owner had not informed the police.[17] Starting from October 2019, the Glynn County Police Department had been called to report a trespasser on the site of a nearby house under construction.[25]
Shooting
Activities before the shooting
On the afternoon of Arbery's death, he entered a house under construction, triggering the owner's security system and recording video. Arbery's aunt subsequently identified him on the owner's video, saying that he was "looking, not stealing anything".[17] However, Waycross District Attorney George Barnhill wrote that there is video of Arbery "burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation".[3]
Gregory McMichael told police that he was on his front lawn when he saw Arbery running past, "hauling ass", and that he recognized Arbery from prior incidents, including one where he had reached into his pants as if for a weapon. Gregory brought a .357 Magnum revolver, while his son Travis brought a shotgun as they pursued him in their pickup truck. A third man, William Bryan, followed close behind in his own vehicle while recording video.[26][5]
Emergency calls
There were two calls to 9-1-1 made minutes before Arbery's death. Neither call alleges a crime committed by Arbery.[24] The transcript of the calls were provided to The Brunswick News, with the callers' identities redacted.[24]
In the first call to 9-1-1, a male caller said another man was in a house that was "under construction". The 9-1-1 dispatcher asked if the man was "breaking into it right now?" The caller replied: "No ... it's all open." After the caller said the man was now "running down the street", the dispatcher said police would respond. The dispatcher then asked at 1:08 p.m.: "I just need to know what he was doing wrong. Was he just on the premises and not supposed to be?" The caller replied in a garbled manner: "And he's been caught on camera a bunch at night. It's kind of an ongoing thing." The caller identified the man as a "black guy, white T-shirt".[24]
In the second call to 9-1-1, beginning at 1:14 p.m., a male caller said: "I'm out here at Satilla Shores ...There's a black male running down the street." The 9-1-1 dispatcher asked: "Where at Satilla Shores?" The caller replied: "I don't know what street we're on." The caller was then heard shouting: "Stop! ... Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!" The dispatcher tried to speak to the caller but did not receive a reply for several minutes. The caller later hung up.[24]
Here is Georgia's law on citizen's arrest -
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia...cle-4/17-4-60/
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
If I'm understanding it correctly so far .... they clearly -thought- they had grounds for making a citizen's arrest because they were on the phone with 911 to that effect. Whether that actually shakes out or not legally will probably be based on a long drawn out rehashing of all the facts and evidence like the Zimmerman trial.
... and then as to the shooting itself - if their attempts at citizen's arrest were lawful, then the use of deadly force became justified once Arbery attacked the elder man with the shotgun and tried to disarm him of his shotgun. Their attempts at citizen's arrest may not have been lawful however, and if that's the case then it would change from a justifiable homicide to then being an aggravated assault followed by murder.
It all will depend on a lot of facts and evidence about what Mr. Arbery did or didn't do prior to them trying to stop him, and what the McMichaels did or did not witness or know about directly .... facts which we don't know all of yet and/or can't be sure of yet and that will have to be drawn out at trial (unless there is a plea).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...e_the_shooting
Burglaries
Two burglaries had occurred in the Satilla Shores neighborhood in 2020 before the shooting.[17] Only one burglary was reported to Glynn County police between January 1 to February 23, 2020. The theft was of a pistol from a pickup truck outside Travis McMichael's house on January 1, 53 days before the killing. His father, Gregory McMichael, had not locked the truck in the morning, and an hour later, Travis discovered that a Smith & Wesson M&P 9 mm had been stolen.[24] The other burglary was some 30 days prior; $2,500 of fishing equipment had been stolen from an unsecured property that was still under construction, but the owner had not informed the police.[17] Starting from October 2019, the Glynn County Police Department had been called to report a trespasser on the site of a nearby house under construction.[25]
Shooting
Activities before the shooting
On the afternoon of Arbery's death, he entered a house under construction, triggering the owner's security system and recording video. Arbery's aunt subsequently identified him on the owner's video, saying that he was "looking, not stealing anything".[17] However, Waycross District Attorney George Barnhill wrote that there is video of Arbery "burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation".[3]
Gregory McMichael told police that he was on his front lawn when he saw Arbery running past, "hauling ass", and that he recognized Arbery from prior incidents, including one where he had reached into his pants as if for a weapon. Gregory brought a .357 Magnum revolver, while his son Travis brought a shotgun as they pursued him in their pickup truck. A third man, William Bryan, followed close behind in his own vehicle while recording video.[26][5]
Emergency calls
There were two calls to 9-1-1 made minutes before Arbery's death. Neither call alleges a crime committed by Arbery.[24] The transcript of the calls were provided to The Brunswick News, with the callers' identities redacted.[24]
In the first call to 9-1-1, a male caller said another man was in a house that was "under construction". The 9-1-1 dispatcher asked if the man was "breaking into it right now?" The caller replied: "No ... it's all open." After the caller said the man was now "running down the street", the dispatcher said police would respond. The dispatcher then asked at 1:08 p.m.: "I just need to know what he was doing wrong. Was he just on the premises and not supposed to be?" The caller replied in a garbled manner: "And he's been caught on camera a bunch at night. It's kind of an ongoing thing." The caller identified the man as a "black guy, white T-shirt".[24]
In the second call to 9-1-1, beginning at 1:14 p.m., a male caller said: "I'm out here at Satilla Shores ...There's a black male running down the street." The 9-1-1 dispatcher asked: "Where at Satilla Shores?" The caller replied: "I don't know what street we're on." The caller was then heard shouting: "Stop! ... Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!" The dispatcher tried to speak to the caller but did not receive a reply for several minutes. The caller later hung up.[24]
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Originally Posted By wildchild11⏩
Were there people actually defending them? I just ignored that thread.lol misc racists rushing to defend two men who followed him in a truck, threatening him with guns, to make a "citizens arrest"
i too consider myself judge jury and executioner
this jog angle is made up. he was running from them.
i too consider myself judge jury and executioner
this jog angle is made up. he was running from them.
Literally the only thing I can lob at Arberry why the FUK would throw hands with 2 people armed with guns? Unjustified or not, I would have bolted.
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05-09-2020, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
some people run for their lives, some people fight for it. Hard to question his thought processWere there people actually defending them? I just ignored that thread.
Literally the only thing I can lob at Arberry why the FUK would throw hands with 2 people armed with guns? Unjustified or not, I would have bolted.
Literally the only thing I can lob at Arberry why the FUK would throw hands with 2 people armed with guns? Unjustified or not, I would have bolted.
05-09-2020, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By WishIWasJawBrah⏩
In the south you can be in a hoodie and jeans one day and a t-shirt and gym shorts the next.Why does it look like its summer in Georgia in February
Even in January and February in Louisiana I had days where it was warm enough out to be in a gym short and t.
05-09-2020, 12:03 PM
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There's already 3 10+ page threads on this topic on the R&P including one 20 page thread, I feel like we don't need another one on the misc.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1604513071
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1604513071
Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
yesWere there people actually defending them?.
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
Lmao “stating facts”, “raising questions”, “defense of logic”.There lies one of the biggest problems in our society.
That stating facts and raising questions in defense of logic can be considered "defending them".
People would rather be tribal than face logic head on.
That stating facts and raising questions in defense of logic can be considered "defending them".
People would rather be tribal than face logic head on.
Incredible how all of that flies out of the window when it’s convenient for your camp, isn’t it? Where’s your supposed fact-stating, question-raising, logic-defending ultra-pragmatist clan when it comes to systemic discrimination in the country?
Don’t cloak your true feelings behind a smokescreen, you feckless kunt.
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05-09-2020, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By PastorGaines⏩
Again, DIVIDING by creating "camps". Instead of logic and facts being the guide. Hell, now facts can literally be considered racist.Lmao “stating facts”, “raising questions”, “defense of logic”.
Incredible how all of that flies out of the window when it’s convenient for your camp, isn’t it? Where’s your supposed fact-stating, question-raising, logic-defending ultra-pragmatist clan when it comes to systemic discrimination in the country?
Don’t cloak your true feelings behind a smokescreen, you feckless kunt.
Incredible how all of that flies out of the window when it’s convenient for your camp, isn’t it? Where’s your supposed fact-stating, question-raising, logic-defending ultra-pragmatist clan when it comes to systemic discrimination in the country?
Don’t cloak your true feelings behind a smokescreen, you feckless kunt.
Also, nobody has denied there's been systemic discrimination in the country.
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this will get dismissed as self defense, its like trayvon thing all over again or michael brown or jussie and every other bull**** story the our great jewish media puts out to rile up certain folks with the narrative that evil whites are killing blacks indiscriminately and getting away with it
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Originally Posted By PastorGaines⏩
reps for life.Lmao “stating facts”, “raising questions”, “defense of logic”.
Incredible how all of that flies out of the window when it’s convenient for your camp, isn’t it? Where’s your supposed fact-stating, question-raising, logic-defending ultra-pragmatist clan when it comes to systemic discrimination in the country?
Don’t cloak your true feelings behind a smokescreen, you feckless kunt.
Incredible how all of that flies out of the window when it’s convenient for your camp, isn’t it? Where’s your supposed fact-stating, question-raising, logic-defending ultra-pragmatist clan when it comes to systemic discrimination in the country?
Don’t cloak your true feelings behind a smokescreen, you feckless kunt.
pls do not associate my personalities in misc and sports misc
05-09-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
There have been clearly delineated camps on this since Rodney King. You can keep obfuscating and pretending it isn’t true, doesn’t change anything.Again, DIVIDING by creating "camps". Instead of logic and facts being the guide. Hell, now facts can literally be considered racist.
Also, nobody has denied there's been systemic discrimination in the country.
Also, nobody has denied there's been systemic discrimination in the country.
Logic and facts have never been your guide. Ever since accounts of police brutality against blacks have surfaced, your camp’s MO’s remained the same - scrape the victims’ backgrounds to dig up as much dirt as possible, and then weaponize it to shut down any chance at discourse. Thefactthat police are engaging in horrendous abuses of power is never addressed. Thefactthat this violence is only ever perpetrated against the poorest and most vulnerable elements of our society is never addressed. Thefactthat anybody with an ounce of common sense can see that the book’s thrown hardest at a certain group of people is never addressed.
Again, you can keep pretending to be this impartial arbiter all you want, but there are very real feelings of oppression bubbling underneath the surface.
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