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post 1609137701 06-29-2020, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By drvillain
the two I'm looking at seem to be mostly hispanic gymslol I'm gonna get my ass kicked.

but the coaches are vets. Everything else on your list checks out
Well that works OP.

And remember the objective of boxing is to damage the other guy more than he damages you.

That is how rounds are scored if there is no knockdown or no knockout in the round. Have fun OP.

If you hurt the guy more than he hurts you in Round 1, and lets say none of you got knocked down, then you win Round 1.
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Originally Posted By zhengterry
didn't you move to LA or something? would be dope if you trained at Wild Card owned by Freddie Roach
Yeah, looks like its an open gym for a fee but you gotta pay for 1 on 1 training
Originally Posted By enzo818
I've been boxing all my life. I've competed at a national level. If you want to get good at boxing you have to go to an old school boxing gym. But at your age most trainers wont give you the time of day.

They will either one of two things: throw you into sparring very early to see how you react or just let you do whatever you want and not give you any attention. If you go spar early, do well in the sense that you were not afraid and keep coming back then the coaches will start giving you more attention. They are not gonna waste their time and energy on a guy that has no chance at competing on any serious level.
Thanks for the advice. I feel pretty confident and know I'm going to get my ass whooped. I feel pretty bad for starting so late.
post 1609138171 06-29-2020, 01:29 PM
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You go to a fitness "boxing" gym with sloots if what you want to do is just fitness and mingle with sloots. Ff you want to learn how to box though, join a real boxing gym.

Most boxing gyms have free classes. You can take those for the basics and then get a trainer if you want to keep at it.
post 1609138351 06-29-2020, 01:30 PM
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Right on OP, I've been looking into joining one too.

My friend in high school boxed and learning little things from him improved my enjoyment of pro boxing too.
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post 1609138361 06-29-2020, 01:30 PM
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Go to philadelphia or some ghetto ass neighborhood. Those gyms are usually real gyms.
You need a pure boxing gym only, none of that fitness/maa/kickboxing/boxing rotation bs gyms.
Originally Posted By enzo818
I've been boxing all my life.
How does someone learn boxing if the coaches won't care about you if you're not looking to compete?
I want to join one soon but if i'm paying $60 a month to hit a heavybag, isn't it cheaper to just buy a heavy bag in my backyard?
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post 1609138491 06-29-2020, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
I knew some cuck would come with this cookie cutter advice.

If you are going to start boxing, you are going to get punched in the face several times, thats a fact. So if you have never taken a punch, better prepare to discover a new feeling.
You'll only get punched in the face if you start sparring too early without getting the fundamentals down through pad work with a trainer.
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Youll get a good workout at a "boxercise" type gym and there will be more sloots around, but you wont learn technique and youll quickly develop bad habits.

If you are serious about it as a sport its essential to join a real gym.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
You'll only get punched in the face if you start sparring too early without getting the fundamentals down through pad work with a trainer.
Pad work and sparring are completely different things. Only certain type of people are cut out for fighting. The only way to find out how is by having controlled sparring with somebody on your level and above your level.
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If you’re gonna do it do it right OP and go to a real boxing gym. I encourage everybody to learn how to use their hands properly, it’s a life changer.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
You'll only get punched in the face if you start sparring too early without getting the fundamentals down through pad work with a trainer.
That's the dumbest potato chit I've read. Unless you're Floyd Mayweather sparring with amateurs, you're going to get hit in the face.

Once you get good enough, you can minimize getting hit flush. But you're still going to get hit.
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Originally Posted By zhengterry
How does someone learn boxing if the coaches won't care about you if you're not looking to compete?
I want to join one soon but if i'm paying $60 a month to hit a heavybag, isn't it cheaper to just buy a heavy bag in my backyard?
yeah dude, paying 80+ for no one to give a chit about me learning doesn't sound appealing LOL. I hope it aint like that
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Originally Posted By enzo818
Pad work and sparring are completely different things. Only certain type of people are cut out for fighting. The only way to find out how is by having controlled sparring with somebody on your level and above your level.
Originally Posted By MediocreGains
That's the dumbest potato chit I've read. Unless you're Floyd Mayweather sparring with amateurs, you're going to get hit in the face.

Once you get good enough, you can minimize getting hit flush. But you're still going to get hit.
Lets be frank here, most of you guys will not be able to find a dedicated padwork partner, let alone a sparring partner. All those things cost time and money.

My opinion still stands, padwork on getting down the fundamentals should always come before sparring. But not just padwork, correct padwork and knowledge of good fighting techniques is a rarity also. There's alot of bad techniques being taught all around the board. But its not just in boxing where bad techniques are being taught by instructors, its also in places, and out of all places, nail salons where they fk up ur nails.

Essentially what most people are saying when they say they want to join a boxing gym is this, they want access to sparring after hitting the bags. Because really that's all they can afford but that's the wrong way to approach boxing.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
Go to philadelphia or some ghetto ass neighborhood. Those gyms are usually real gyms.
You need a pure boxing gym only, none of that fitness/maa/kickboxing/boxing rotation bs gyms.



How does someone learn boxing if the coaches won't care about you if you're not looking to compete?
I want to join one soon but if i'm paying $60 a month to hit a heavybag, isn't it cheaper to just buy a heavy bag in my backyard?
I agree that it may not be right for them, but that's the reality. A real boxing gym owner is looking for guys that are going to compete and help him develop his name as a trainer. Why would a trainer waste an hour of his time training a beginner when he may quit after getting his ass kicked for the first time? They've been through it so many times that they dont want to waste their time.

I'm also factoring OP's age because the reality of OP doing anything in boxing is slim to none and the trainers know that. If you are a young kid and the trainer sees potential then he will put more time in because he sees a possible investment of his time.


If you get a new trainer who just barely started training clients then he will put more time with you because he doesnt have guys that are competing.

It's analogous to an employer that doesnt want to hire a person with no experience and have to teach him/her everything. They rather have a person who has experience who can come in and work efficiently.

Now if you pay for private lessons then you will get attention. But those are very expensive.

To answer your question. You can learn by watching more experienced guys and asking questions. A trainer will answer your question if you ask. In the beginning they will put a bit of time with you to make it seem like they care, but basically they will give you a basic routine. They'll tell you to start off with 3-5 rounds of jump rope, then 3-5 rounds of shadow boxing, 5 rounds of heavy bag, finish it off with some double-end bag and speed bag plus abs/calisthenics. But they wont be watching you every round to see if you are doing everything the right way.
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Originally Posted By enzo818
I agree that it may not be right for them, but that's the reality. A real boxing gym owner is looking for guys that are going to compete and help him develop his name as a trainer. Why would a trainer waste an hour of his time training a beginner when he may quit after getting his ass kicked for the first time? They've been through it so many times that they dont want to waste their time.

If you get a new trainer who just barely started training clients then he will put more time with you because he doesnt have guys that are competing. It's analogous to an employer doesnt want to hire a person with no experience and have to teach him/her everything. They rather have a person who has experience who can come in and work efficiently.

Now if you pay for private lessons then you will get attention. But those are very expensive.
Damn I hope that's not true in the States because literally you are paying for the trainers to train you.

I've trained at muay thai and mma gyms and aside from private sessions (which isn't worth it especially in mma), the trainers are probably going to be legit and there will be lot's of drills and pad work. Sparring is probably optional and also invitational.

It's going to be a lot of fun OP, you're going to learn lots, especially when you're exhausted that's when the techniques really shine.
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Originally Posted By zhengterry
Damn I hope that's not true in the States because literally you are paying for the trainers to train you.

I've trained at muay thai and mma gyms and aside from private sessions (which isn't worth it especially in mma), the trainers are probably going to be legit and there will be lot's of drills and pad work. Sparring is probably optional and also invitational.

It's going to be a lot of fun OP, you're going to learn lots, especially when you're exhausted that's when the techniques really shine.
No, you are paying mostly to use their gym and equipment. They will design drills for you, but drills will likely lead to developing bad habits because the trainer wont correct you each time. Boxing is a detail orientated sport. You have to show up everyday and work your arse off to prove to the trainer your worth his time. Good trainers dont have time/patience for guys thinking they can show up when they want and get individual training.
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Go to a real boxing gym. Your best bet is the local Police Athletic League. You pay a low annual donation and the coaches there will help you. You can get very good on this alone. You''l find most people serious about boxing stated at the local PAL.
If you show any promise of becoming a good fighter, (do well at golden gloves, Olympic try outs) then you can look into hiring a coach.
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy
Go to a real boxing gym. Your best bet is the local Police Athletic League. You pay a low annual donation and the coaches there will help you. You can get very good on this alone. You''l find most people serious about boxing stated at the local PAL.
If you show any promise of becoming a good fighter, (do well at golden gloves, Olympic try outs) then you can look into hiring a coach.
This! These are non-profit gyms so you know they are in it for the love of the sport and not trying to take your money. If you go to a non-profit then you can get some decent training there.
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy
Go to a real boxing gym. Your best bet is the local Police Athletic League. You pay a low annual donation and the coaches there will help you. You can get very good on this alone. You''l find most people serious about boxing stated at the local PAL.
If you show any promise of becoming a good fighter, (do well at golden gloves, Olympic try outs) then you can look into hiring a coach.
Originally Posted By enzo818
This! These are non-profit gyms so you know they are in it for the love of the sport and not trying to take your money. If you go to a non-profit then you can get some decent training there.
wat m8. Ill look into this. Solid advice
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Originally Posted By enzo818
Now if you pay for private lessons then you will get attention. But those are very expensive.

To answer your question. You can learn by watching more experienced guys and asking questions. A trainer will answer your question if you ask. In the beginning they will put a bit of time with you to make it seem like they care, but basically they will give you a basic routine. They'll tell you to start off with 3-5 rounds of jump rope, then 3-5 rounds of shadow boxing, 5 rounds of heavy bag, finish it off with some double-end bag and speed bag plus abs/calisthenics. But they wont be watching you every round to see if you are doing everything the right way.
Yeah i understand that a coach doesn't want to waste time. But it would be nice to get some pointers here and there or do some mitt work.
Private lessons are real expensive so definitely not something i can afford.

I guess asking other trainers for pointers would be nice, but i think if you're on your own in the gym, without mitt work, without real advice or lessons...
Then it's better to just buy a heavy bag and teach yourself.
I can jump rope, shadowbox and do bag work by myself and save money.
And unless you know what you're doing, sparring is out of the question for beginners. Unfortunately this makes a boxing gym a lot less appealing.
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Originally Posted By enzo818
Pad work and sparring are completely different things. Only certain type of people are cut out for fighting. The only way to find out how is by having controlled sparring with somebody on your level and above your level.
^^^^
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy
Go to a real boxing gym. Your best bet is the local Police Athletic League. You pay a low annual donation and the coaches there will help you. You can get very good on this alone. You''l find most people serious about boxing stated at the local PAL.
If you show any promise of becoming a good fighter, (do well at golden gloves, Olympic try outs) then you can look into hiring a coach.
Originally Posted By enzo818
This! These are non-profit gyms so you know they are in it for the love of the sport and not trying to take your money. If you go to a non-profit then you can get some decent training there.
Isn't that for kids 18 and under
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
Depends on what your goals really are.

Are you just trying to get in shape, or do you really want to learn how to box?

because if you really want to learn how to box, there are tiers of skills:

-better than the average folks
-amateur boxing
-pro
-best

If you join these boxing gyms, you skill set will be at amateur and pro. It will not be at best because you won't know what is best. I do. The funny thing is, being best is really all about what you know(only a handful of things) and implementing it.

For starters, if your cardio is chit, you won't make it into pro. Good cardio is very hard to achieve and takes a massive amount of discipline.

I did research alongside the best boxer in the world. See sig.
This guy has never boxed before, or done any type of physical activity.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias
Try taking a women's self defense class instead.

You'll get tons of pussy
This

Or join a women only bjj class and identify as a female.
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if you’re not hearing gun shots outside than you’re not at a real boxing gym (srs)
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In. Want to take boxing soon too. No better striking martial art imo.

My dad told me a story about a guy in his NG unit who used to box and he got into a bar fight once and layed this big dude out. The big guy got upset because he had left and came back to my dads buddy chatting up the girl he was with.

The guy tried to diffuse the situation but the big dude wanted to act macho in front of his lady friend lol.
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17
This guy has never boxed before, or done any type of physical activity.
lmao yea ok dude.

Again, you just proved that most of yall don't know chit about boxing.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
You'll only get punched in the face if you start sparring too early without getting the fundamentals down through pad work with a trainer.
This is why you’re red.

You can’t ever be scared of getting hit in sparring of any combat sport.

Some boxers include learning to take a nasty hit in their training if they know their opponent is much bigger or stronger than them.
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias
Try taking a women's self defense class instead.

You'll get tons of pussy
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