The fact that we believe in the freedoms enshrined in the constitution and want to peacefully coexist and live free from tyranny and suffering

that and we all shop at walmart

So what about the good ol' 80/20 rule?

I think (hope?) that the far left fringe isn't more than 20% of us. They seem to trend younger overall and maybe they are just better at media manipulation?

You might think that our cultural diversity is a weakness. I'm not sure that is correct.

Off the cuff I can think of a couple of large groups that are generally seen as traditional and unlikely to be far left:

- Asians (communal valued over individual, work ethic, family responsibility/honor)
- Hispanics (maybe Mexican? strong traditional gender roles, hard working, Catholicism)
- Various religious groups (I can't imagine a SJW Muslim. You?)

There are some loud impractical crazies on both sides of the spectrum. And I'm generally open minded up to the point of ideas that deny reality in such a way they are doomed beyond hope.

...this Earth is currently ruled by a small, vicious, psychotic group of people. This group sees the rest of us with the UTMOST contempt.

But many on your side would love to see the constitution abolished just like the police depts. Do you deny this?

I'll bite. A ramble:

Opie, you are right that we are all on the same team. We are all Americans, and should be rooting for America to succeed. The way I see it tho is like how I view agitators at my work constantly trying to scrape for every little bread crumb of an advantage like milking it for OT, filing grievances left and right, avoiding work, abusing FMLA for 3 day weekends every week, faking injuries, etc. These people are not the majority, most people here clock in and do their jobs, but that small minority fuks chit up for everyone else. On top of that, it sucks the company resources and weakens it overall. What happens when the company is paying out the ass for these idiots and then goes belly up? EVERYBODY loses. Instead of busting their ass, getting promoted, and legit moving up, these ass holes try to manipulate the system to get theirs.

And that's the way I see core of BLM, Antifa, etc. Their outrageous demands threaten the country and communities we all live in. They can't simply accept the way things are and work within the system to "make it," they have to change the whole fukking system at the cost of everyone's stability and lifestyle. This affects us all. In ways you can't even see. I'm seeing it now with guys pulling the race card every fukking time they are asked to do something or get disciplined. The morale is sinking. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it's bullschit, and yet nothing can be done. How does growth happen from here? It doesn't. We become a dying relic.

Most democrats I come into contact with are level headed and if you approached them they would agree with a LOT of conservative ideas, especially when you talk about their money or kids. The fringe wants to pull everything left until "normal" becomes "far right," and anything standing for family values becomes bigoted or privileged or whatever term becomes popular. They are normalizing crazy stupid chit. Let me tell you, I have voted Obama AND Hillary, and I ain't casting my ballot to the D's until this chit straightens out. I don't care how big a putz Trump is. The Dems are destroying America.

I'll bite. A ramble:

Opie, you are right that we are all on the same team. We are all Americans, and should be rooting for America to succeed. The way I see it tho is like how I view agitators at my work constantly trying to scrape for every little bread crumb of an advantage like milking it for OT, filing grievances left and right, avoiding work, abusing FMLA for 3 day weekends every week, faking injuries, etc. These people are not the majority, most people here clock in and do their jobs, but that small minority fuks chit up for everyone else. On top of that, it sucks the company resources and weakens it overall. What happens when the company is paying out the ass for these idiots and then goes belly up? EVERYBODY loses. Instead of busting their ass, getting promoted, and legit moving up, these ass holes try to manipulate the system to get theirs.

And that's the way I see core of BLM, Antifa, etc. Their outrageous demands threaten the country and communities we all live in. They can't simply accept the way things are and work within the system to "make it," they have to change the whole fukking system at the cost of everyone's stability and lifestyle. This affects us all. In ways you can't even see. I'm seeing it now with guys pulling the race card every fukking time they are asked to do something or get disciplined. The morale is sinking. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it's bullschit, and yet nothing can be done. How does growth happen from here? It doesn't. We become a dying relic.

Most democrats I come into contact with are level headed and if you approached them they would agree with a LOT of conservative ideas, especially when you talk about their money or kids. The fringe wants to pull everything left until "normal" becomes "far right," and anything standing for family values becomes bigoted or privileged or whatever term becomes popular. They are normalizing crazy stupid chit. Let me tell you, I have voted Obama AND Hillary, and I ain't casting my ballot to the D's until this chit straightens out. I don't care how big a putz Trump is. The Dems are destroying America.

Your userpic scary as ****. I’ll be on your team.

we are supposed to all be American, but ppl have forgotten that which unites us

So what about the good ol' 80/20 rule?

I think (hope?) that the far left fringe isn't more than 20% of us. They seem to trend younger overall and maybe they are just better at media manipulation?

You might think that our cultural diversity is a weakness. I'm not sure that is correct.

Off the cuff I can think of a couple of large groups that are generally seen as traditional and unlikely to be far left:

- Asians (communal valued over individual, work ethic, family responsibility/honor)
- Hispanics (maybe Mexican? strong traditional gender roles, hard working, Catholicism)
- Various religious groups (I can't imagine a SJW Muslim. You?)

There are some loud impractical crazies on both sides of the spectrum. And I'm generally open minded up to the point of ideas that deny reality in such a way they are doomed beyond hope.

I'll bite. A ramble:

Opie, you are right that we are all on the same team. We are all Americans, and should be rooting for America to succeed. The way I see it tho is like how I view agitators at my work constantly trying to scrape for every little bread crumb of an advantage like milking it for OT, filing grievances left and right, avoiding work, abusing FMLA for 3 day weekends every week, faking injuries, etc. These people are not the majority, most people here clock in and do their jobs, but that small minority fuks chit up for everyone else. On top of that, it sucks the company resources and weakens it overall. What happens when the company is paying out the ass for these idiots and then goes belly up? EVERYBODY loses. Instead of busting their ass, getting promoted, and legit moving up, these ass holes try to manipulate the system to get theirs.

And that's the way I see core of BLM, Antifa, etc. Their outrageous demands threaten the country and communities we all live in. They can't simply accept the way things are and work within the system to "make it," they have to change the whole fukking system at the cost of everyone's stability and lifestyle. This affects us all. In ways you can't even see. I'm seeing it now with guys pulling the race card every fukking time they are asked to do something or get disciplined. The morale is sinking. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it's bullschit, and yet nothing can be done. How does growth happen from here? It doesn't. We become a dying relic.

Most democrats I come into contact with are level headed and if you approached them they would agree with a LOT of conservative ideas, especially when you talk about their money or kids. The fringe wants to pull everything left until "normal" becomes "far right," and anything standing for family values becomes bigoted or privileged or whatever term becomes popular. They are normalizing crazy stupid chit. Let me tell you, I have voted Obama AND Hillary, and I ain't casting my ballot to the D's until this chit straightens out. I don't care how big a putz Trump is. The Dems are destroying America.

Time to add a "conspiracy theorist's" viewpoint on here:


We ARE all on the same team: the HUMAN team. Nevermind being "American", or whatever. Each one of us is human, and made in the image of the divine. Every last one of us desires peace, blessings, prosperity and all the contentment we desire. I wish all of the above for myself, and everyone else on this planet.


Real talk-this Earth is currently ruled by a small, vicious, psychotic group of people. This group sees the rest of us with the UTMOST contempt. Indeed, they see most of us as an obstacle, and a hindrance to THEIR prosperity and enjoyment. Pretty soon, they are going to start taking active steps to get rid of most of us. We are nearing the biggest genocide in human History. All this is coming right around the corner-with the mass vaccinations and the induced issues with our food supply.

All this chit with "BLM" and ANTIFA are DISTRACTIONS. The whole "left/right" paradigm is a DISTRACTION. While we are marching, looting, protesting, countermarching and counter-protesting-the greatest wealth transfers in History have happened. The Middle Class has been BRUTALIZED, and the elites are just getting started. It's all really tragic. But it all happens because of our ignorance. No matter who wins the presidential election, or the local elections in your country...the future looks bleak.


While we are arguing about stupid politics, a war is being waged against humanity. The people waging it are VASTLY outnumbered by the rest of us. However, they have alot of tenacity, alot of resources....and the majority of us don't even know that the war is being waged.