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08-01-2020, 10:54 AM
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When are we going to realize we're almost all on the same team?
Liberal or Conservative
Whether you support BLM or not
Etc..
I'll admit that when all of this BLM virtue signaling, looting/rioting and race war stuff starting firing up again a few months ago I was pissed. As a person that thinks pretty logically, watching all of this insanity unfold around me was very infuriating. So I went around looking for someone or something to lash out at. Some way to make my frustrations heard. I think I've negged more people in the past few months than I have in my entire misc career. I'm sure this is exactly the same way a lot of people participating in actual protests are feeling.
What I think a lot of people are failing to see here is that we all are trying to do what we think is right. As a person that is more right leaning, I look at a lot of leftists and think they are bat **** insane. The thing is, those leftists are looking back at me in the same exact way. Neither of us are doing this out of some sort of malicious intent. We are simply doing what we view is right based upon how we were raised and what we've learned through education and life experience.
I'm sure there are some people that participate on either side that do the things they do for malicious reasons but I'd be willing to bet that they are a small minority.
We are all on the same team and should be working together to find logical ways to make improvements instead of simply hurling insults back and forth and seeing who can post the most black on white vs white on black crime videos. We should be railing against the powers that want to see us divided and instead find a common ground. What can I do to help put food on your plate without taking it out of my family's mouth?
Black brahs are tired of getting followed around stores, automatically viewed as criminals and having their success chalked up to affirmative action.
Similarly
White brahs are tired of automatically being a racist/nazi/school shooter that aren't allowed defend themselves against such accusations and having all of their accomplishments chalked up to white privilege.
Now I know your knee jerk reaction is to say "Those two are no where near the same!!" And maybe you're right but I'm just trying to point out the similarities in our positions.
This may come off as idealistic but I don't care. It was just something I've been thinking about.
Inb4 Dear Diary
Whether you support BLM or not
Etc..
I'll admit that when all of this BLM virtue signaling, looting/rioting and race war stuff starting firing up again a few months ago I was pissed. As a person that thinks pretty logically, watching all of this insanity unfold around me was very infuriating. So I went around looking for someone or something to lash out at. Some way to make my frustrations heard. I think I've negged more people in the past few months than I have in my entire misc career. I'm sure this is exactly the same way a lot of people participating in actual protests are feeling.
What I think a lot of people are failing to see here is that we all are trying to do what we think is right. As a person that is more right leaning, I look at a lot of leftists and think they are bat **** insane. The thing is, those leftists are looking back at me in the same exact way. Neither of us are doing this out of some sort of malicious intent. We are simply doing what we view is right based upon how we were raised and what we've learned through education and life experience.
I'm sure there are some people that participate on either side that do the things they do for malicious reasons but I'd be willing to bet that they are a small minority.
We are all on the same team and should be working together to find logical ways to make improvements instead of simply hurling insults back and forth and seeing who can post the most black on white vs white on black crime videos. We should be railing against the powers that want to see us divided and instead find a common ground. What can I do to help put food on your plate without taking it out of my family's mouth?
Black brahs are tired of getting followed around stores, automatically viewed as criminals and having their success chalked up to affirmative action.
Similarly
White brahs are tired of automatically being a racist/nazi/school shooter that aren't allowed defend themselves against such accusations and having all of their accomplishments chalked up to white privilege.
Now I know your knee jerk reaction is to say "Those two are no where near the same!!" And maybe you're right but I'm just trying to point out the similarities in our positions.
This may come off as idealistic but I don't care. It was just something I've been thinking about.
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08-01-2020, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By AriGhold⏩
Lol thanks brah. Pyramid head ftw.Your userpic scary as ****. I’ll be on your team.
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08-01-2020, 11:36 AM
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lol at same team, one of the teams is trying to abolish the police, say there're 999999999 genders and is ok with complete destruction of cities and businesses, it's the sane vs the insane at this point
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08-01-2020, 11:45 AM
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These Woke Liberals are Toxic to society to be honest.
They have never worked a day in their lives and expect to be a Millionaire as they somehow deserve it.
Its the snowplow parents that are to blame too.
They have never worked a day in their lives and expect to be a Millionaire as they somehow deserve it.
Its the snowplow parents that are to blame too.
08-01-2020, 11:52 AM
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hard to be on the same side of people that think the majority of the country is racist because of the actions of one retarded cop.
even though whenever something like that happens literally millions of people of all backgrounds march and protest to show their outrage at what happened.
pretty sure that wouldn't happen in a country that is supposedly fundamentally racist.
even though whenever something like that happens literally millions of people of all backgrounds march and protest to show their outrage at what happened.
pretty sure that wouldn't happen in a country that is supposedly fundamentally racist.
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08-01-2020, 12:02 PM
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Just lol, like you need a wall of text to spell it out to both sides.
inb4 they start trickling in and blaming the other side to justify their higher moral ground. How can you blame me when I call them both full of it
Listen you fkers, the first thing you do when trying to come to terms with someone you antagonize, is reflect on what common values you share, and in good faith talk it out, always keeping the focus on shared ideals and your common goal (when tempers start to flare up and emotions get the best of you). An advice as old as mountains, feel free to drown it out in rhetoric; I've said my piece
inb4 they start trickling in and blaming the other side to justify their higher moral ground. How can you blame me when I call them both full of it
Listen you fkers, the first thing you do when trying to come to terms with someone you antagonize, is reflect on what common values you share, and in good faith talk it out, always keeping the focus on shared ideals and your common goal (when tempers start to flare up and emotions get the best of you). An advice as old as mountains, feel free to drown it out in rhetoric; I've said my piece
08-01-2020, 12:05 PM
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It is hard to be on the same team when one side (the left) wants the complete destruction of America and its traditional culture and values and they continually lie and scam to try to make people believe that they aren't.
Fact.
Fact.
08-01-2020, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
Nice strawmanIt is hard to be on the same team when one side (the left) wants the complete destruction of America and its traditional culture and values and they continually lie and scam to try to make people believe that they aren't.
Fact.
Fact.
08-01-2020, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
Still holding IMUN?Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
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08-01-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
No. Been out for quite a while.Still holding IMUN?
Read the stock thread lately? I am heavy into RXMD, RVVTF, and now CTYX is my new play.
08-01-2020, 12:32 PM
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inb4 they start trickling in and blaming the other side to justify their higher moral ground. How can you blame me when I call them both full of it
Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
It is hard to be on the same team when one side (the left) wants the complete destruction of America and its traditional culture and values and they continually lie and scam to try to make people believe that they aren't.
Fact.
Fact.
Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
and the sky is blueWhen the racist sexist homo phobe white supremacist dumb ass trump supporters bend the knee
08-01-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamSMW⏩
lol at same team, one of the teams is trying to abolish the police, say there're 999999999 genders and is ok with complete destruction of cities and businesses, it's the sane vs the insane at this point
Originally Posted By monty097⏩
hard to be on the same side of people that think the majority of the country is racist because of the actions of one retarded cop.
even though whenever something like that happens literally millions of people of all backgrounds march and protest to show their outrage at what happened.
pretty sure that wouldn't happen in a country that is supposedly fundamentally racist.
even though whenever something like that happens literally millions of people of all backgrounds march and protest to show their outrage at what happened.
pretty sure that wouldn't happen in a country that is supposedly fundamentally racist.
Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
I completely agree with what you all have said. Like I said, I'm a logical person that leans right so all this **** is insane to me as well. But the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think these people are saying "Hey let's pull down statues/call people racist/loot etc.." just so I can piss off AdamSMW or OptimiusPrime11. The majority of them are doing this because it's what they believe is right. It's what they are being fed around the clock. In their minds, doing these things is in same way bringing justice as ridiculous as it may sound to us.It is hard to be on the same team when one side (the left) wants the complete destruction of America and its traditional culture and values and they continually lie and scam to try to make people believe that they aren't.
Fact.
Fact.
Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Not sure if sarcasm or TDS.When the racist sexist homo phobe white supremacist dumb ass trump supporters bend the knee
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I agree with you on this as well. This is why I sleep with 2 loaded 9mm in my nightstand. I'm ready to do what it takes to defend myself and my loved ones. What I'm saying is, these people are doing these things because it's what they are being told is the right thing to do. The real enemy here as you stated is the "Marxist communist conspiracy and scam" and the media that is constantly pushing the narrative.People who naively, foolishly, ignorantly, carelessly think 'we're all on the same team' get robbed, beaten, defeated, destroyed, and slaughtered by others. Those who think that way earn their Darwin Awards and have throughout the history of humanity. This always has been and always will be a brutally competitive world. Accept that fact.
No, we are not all on the same team. We are all on different teams and always have been and always will be.
There are those who are going attack you and kill you and take everything you've got and you can either be a man or be a foolish coward in the face of it.
Personally, and religion aside, I'm an American nationalist and put the country above everything else and wish most others would as well, but most do not. Most people put either themselves, or their family, or their community first. Country first above all else. I wish it were that we were all on the same team of country first but I realistically know that's far from reality and that most people are simply more self and small group interested.
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With that said, right now the biggest threat is not 'the black man' or 'the Jew' or 'the white man' or whatever else smaller group in competition with you and yours. The primary threat right now is the global Marxist communist conspiracy and scam, which is successfully advancing rapidly on all fronts, which is coming fast and which has a good chance of succeeding in the overthrow of our entire world, and if it does will bring every hellish nightmare you can imagine and many you can't.
No, we are not all on the same team. We are all on different teams and always have been and always will be.
There are those who are going attack you and kill you and take everything you've got and you can either be a man or be a foolish coward in the face of it.
Personally, and religion aside, I'm an American nationalist and put the country above everything else and wish most others would as well, but most do not. Most people put either themselves, or their family, or their community first. Country first above all else. I wish it were that we were all on the same team of country first but I realistically know that's far from reality and that most people are simply more self and small group interested.
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With that said, right now the biggest threat is not 'the black man' or 'the Jew' or 'the white man' or whatever else smaller group in competition with you and yours. The primary threat right now is the global Marxist communist conspiracy and scam, which is successfully advancing rapidly on all fronts, which is coming fast and which has a good chance of succeeding in the overthrow of our entire world, and if it does will bring every hellish nightmare you can imagine and many you can't.
I'm not saying everyone needs to sit in a fukking drum circle and sing. I'm just trying to look at things from a different perspective.
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08-01-2020, 02:50 PM
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Normally, for divided people to unite, you'd need an external threat to provide the impetous. But I honestly can't think of any external threat that would bring us together now.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
What unites us? Is it our heritage, respect for traditions, the national anthem, the flag, the same language, ect...? I think you can see what the problem is. The fact is we very little in common and very little to unite over.we are supposed to all be American, but ppl have forgotten that which unites us
08-01-2020, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
The fact that we believe in the freedoms enshrined in the constitution and want to peacefully coexist and live free from tyranny and sufferingWhat unites us? Is it our heritage, respect for traditions, the national anthem, the flag, the same language, ect...? I think you can see what the problem is. The fact is we very little in common and very little to unite over.
that and we all shop at walmart
08-01-2020, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
Why do you hate immigrants?What unites us? Is it our heritage, respect for traditions, the national anthem, the flag, the same language, ect...? I think you can see what the problem is. The fact is we very little in common and very little to unite over.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That's super gay and not nearly enough. And we all don't believe in freedoms in the Constitution. Some people want hate speech laws and gun control. We'll see if consumerism is enough, I doubt it.The fact that we believe in the freedoms enshrined in the constitution and want to peacefully coexist and live free from tyranny and suffering
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Dems doing their best to create a team of everyone EXCEPT white males.
If your going to take peoples stuff, its best to make sure they have something to take.
If your going to take peoples stuff, its best to make sure they have something to take.
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08-01-2020, 08:32 PM
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So what about the good ol' 80/20 rule?
I think (hope?) that the far left fringe isn't more than 20% of us. They seem to trend younger overall and maybe they are just better at media manipulation?
You might think that our cultural diversity is a weakness. I'm not sure that is correct.
Off the cuff I can think of a couple of large groups that are generally seen as traditional and unlikely to be far left:
- Asians (communal valued over individual, work ethic, family responsibility/honor)
- Hispanics (maybe Mexican? strong traditional gender roles, hard working, Catholicism)
- Various religious groups (I can't imagine a SJW Muslim. You?)
There are some loud impractical crazies on both sides of the spectrum. And I'm generally open minded up to the point of ideas that deny reality in such a way they are doomed beyond hope.
I think (hope?) that the far left fringe isn't more than 20% of us. They seem to trend younger overall and maybe they are just better at media manipulation?
You might think that our cultural diversity is a weakness. I'm not sure that is correct.
Off the cuff I can think of a couple of large groups that are generally seen as traditional and unlikely to be far left:
- Asians (communal valued over individual, work ethic, family responsibility/honor)
- Hispanics (maybe Mexican? strong traditional gender roles, hard working, Catholicism)
- Various religious groups (I can't imagine a SJW Muslim. You?)
There are some loud impractical crazies on both sides of the spectrum. And I'm generally open minded up to the point of ideas that deny reality in such a way they are doomed beyond hope.
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08-01-2020, 08:50 PM
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I'll bite. A ramble:
Opie, you are right that we are all on the same team. We are all Americans, and should be rooting for America to succeed. The way I see it tho is like how I view agitators at my work constantly trying to scrape for every little bread crumb of an advantage like milking it for OT, filing grievances left and right, avoiding work, abusing FMLA for 3 day weekends every week, faking injuries, etc. These people are not the majority, most people here clock in and do their jobs, but that small minority fuks chit up for everyone else. On top of that, it sucks the company resources and weakens it overall. What happens when the company is paying out the ass for these idiots and then goes belly up? EVERYBODY loses. Instead of busting their ass, getting promoted, and legit moving up, these ass holes try to manipulate the system to get theirs.
And that's the way I see core of BLM, Antifa, etc. Their outrageous demands threaten the country and communities we all live in. They can't simply accept the way things are and work within the system to "make it," they have to change the whole fukking system at the cost of everyone's stability and lifestyle. This affects us all. In ways you can't even see. I'm seeing it now with guys pulling the race card every fukking time they are asked to do something or get disciplined. The morale is sinking. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it's bullschit, and yet nothing can be done. How does growth happen from here? It doesn't. We become a dying relic.
Most democrats I come into contact with are level headed and if you approached them they would agree with a LOT of conservative ideas, especially when you talk about their money or kids. The fringe wants to pull everything left until "normal" becomes "far right," and anything standing for family values becomes bigoted or privileged or whatever term becomes popular. They are normalizing crazy stupid chit. Let me tell you, I have voted Obama AND Hillary, and I ain't casting my ballot to the D's until this chit straightens out. I don't care how big a putz Trump is. The Dems are destroying America.
Opie, you are right that we are all on the same team. We are all Americans, and should be rooting for America to succeed. The way I see it tho is like how I view agitators at my work constantly trying to scrape for every little bread crumb of an advantage like milking it for OT, filing grievances left and right, avoiding work, abusing FMLA for 3 day weekends every week, faking injuries, etc. These people are not the majority, most people here clock in and do their jobs, but that small minority fuks chit up for everyone else. On top of that, it sucks the company resources and weakens it overall. What happens when the company is paying out the ass for these idiots and then goes belly up? EVERYBODY loses. Instead of busting their ass, getting promoted, and legit moving up, these ass holes try to manipulate the system to get theirs.
And that's the way I see core of BLM, Antifa, etc. Their outrageous demands threaten the country and communities we all live in. They can't simply accept the way things are and work within the system to "make it," they have to change the whole fukking system at the cost of everyone's stability and lifestyle. This affects us all. In ways you can't even see. I'm seeing it now with guys pulling the race card every fukking time they are asked to do something or get disciplined. The morale is sinking. Everyone sees it, everyone knows it's bullschit, and yet nothing can be done. How does growth happen from here? It doesn't. We become a dying relic.
Most democrats I come into contact with are level headed and if you approached them they would agree with a LOT of conservative ideas, especially when you talk about their money or kids. The fringe wants to pull everything left until "normal" becomes "far right," and anything standing for family values becomes bigoted or privileged or whatever term becomes popular. They are normalizing crazy stupid chit. Let me tell you, I have voted Obama AND Hillary, and I ain't casting my ballot to the D's until this chit straightens out. I don't care how big a putz Trump is. The Dems are destroying America.
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Time to add a "conspiracy theorist's" viewpoint on here:
We ARE all on the same team: the HUMAN team. Nevermind being "American", or whatever. Each one of us is human, and made in the image of the divine. Every last one of us desires peace, blessings, prosperity and all the contentment we desire. I wish all of the above for myself, and everyone else on this planet.
Real talk-this Earth is currently ruled by a small, vicious, psychotic group of people. This group sees the rest of us with the UTMOST contempt. Indeed, they see most of us as an obstacle, and a hindrance to THEIR prosperity and enjoyment. Pretty soon, they are going to start taking active steps to get rid of most of us. We are nearing the biggest genocide in human History. All this is coming right around the corner-with the mass vaccinations and the induced issues with our food supply.
All this chit with "BLM" and ANTIFA are DISTRACTIONS. The whole "left/right" paradigm is a DISTRACTION. While we are marching, looting, protesting, countermarching and counter-protesting-the greatest wealth transfers in History have happened. The Middle Class has been BRUTALIZED, and the elites are just getting started. It's all really tragic. But it all happens because of our ignorance. No matter who wins the presidential election, or the local elections in your country...the future looks bleak.
While we are arguing about stupid politics, a war is being waged against humanity. The people waging it are VASTLY outnumbered by the rest of us. However, they have alot of tenacity, alot of resources....and the majority of us don't even know that the war is being waged.
We ARE all on the same team: the HUMAN team. Nevermind being "American", or whatever. Each one of us is human, and made in the image of the divine. Every last one of us desires peace, blessings, prosperity and all the contentment we desire. I wish all of the above for myself, and everyone else on this planet.
Real talk-this Earth is currently ruled by a small, vicious, psychotic group of people. This group sees the rest of us with the UTMOST contempt. Indeed, they see most of us as an obstacle, and a hindrance to THEIR prosperity and enjoyment. Pretty soon, they are going to start taking active steps to get rid of most of us. We are nearing the biggest genocide in human History. All this is coming right around the corner-with the mass vaccinations and the induced issues with our food supply.
All this chit with "BLM" and ANTIFA are DISTRACTIONS. The whole "left/right" paradigm is a DISTRACTION. While we are marching, looting, protesting, countermarching and counter-protesting-the greatest wealth transfers in History have happened. The Middle Class has been BRUTALIZED, and the elites are just getting started. It's all really tragic. But it all happens because of our ignorance. No matter who wins the presidential election, or the local elections in your country...the future looks bleak.
While we are arguing about stupid politics, a war is being waged against humanity. The people waging it are VASTLY outnumbered by the rest of us. However, they have alot of tenacity, alot of resources....and the majority of us don't even know that the war is being waged.
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