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post 1613997701 08-19-2020, 10:51 AM
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Might be a dumb question as I am fukking clueless about ponds/gardens and wildlife in gernal but imma ask anyways.

Could you create a pond like the dead sea? Which I think it just has a high salt content to the point that you float...

Would be cool, is all. (And possible less maintenance?) dunno though.
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Originally Posted By tnthudson⏩
Yeah, I like the idea of it and on the right land it probably would be awesome, honestly, to have a natural pool.
For the space (and my wife, lol) I had to go traditional, but with a salt water generator I can keep our chlorine around 3 ppm, which isn't bad at all, and the water is soft and somewhat silky.
I once did a pool with the salt electrolisis system and it's working good. The only con about that system is price, It was around 4k euros on top of the other costs of the pool. That was a couple years ago and it's still working great
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Originally Posted By ChelshireCat⏩
Might be a dumb question as I am fukking clueless about ponds/gardens and wildlife in gernal but imma ask anyways.

Could you create a pond like the dead sea? Which I think it just has a high salt content to the point that you float...

Would be cool, is all. (And possible less maintenance?) dunno though.
Yes you can do it with a salt chlorinator or whatever it's called in english. The salt level is way lower than the dead sea tho if i remember correctly is the same salt level as a human teardrop.



You can adapt them into a normal pool system too
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So your talking about a pond, yea never heard of em
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
I once did a pool with the salt electrolisis system and it's working good. The only con about that system is price, It was around 4k euros on top of the other costs of the pool. That was a couple years ago and it's still working great
Yep, it's not cheap up front but in the long run I'm maintaining it with Borax, Baking Soda and Muriatic acid, along with some storebought chems like CYA and of course pool salt. I guess you know about the BBB (bleach, borax, baking soda) system of maintenance? If not, check out troublefreepools.com, pretty cool stuff even for a non-chem idiot like me.
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze⏩
Mainly snakes, as TBO stated below. Also I can't imagine the relentless heat and humidity would be good for it



Moccasins and pygmy rattlesnakes are the phucking worst. Both are unnecessarily aggressive
We built a small pond in our backyard when I was a teenager. That thing is a nightmare to keep going. It's constantly wanting to dry up, algae blooms (which are almost impossible to control when its 100 degrees with high humidity), the clay shifting from expanding and shrinking every year. We got 58 inches of rainfall a year so it isn't like it was a desert or anything. I love the idea of something like that but it just isn't practical where I live.

Luckily we don't have many pygmy rattlesnakes. It's mostly timber or diamondbacks. A baby timber rattlesnake bit my brother's date on the foot once at my Dad's. We were all drunk and I had to kill the snake with my boot so there would be enough of it left to take to the ER so they would know what type of antivenom to give her. That was a wild night
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Originally Posted By tnthudson⏩
Yep, it's not cheap up front but in the long run I'm maintaining it with Borax, Baking Soda and Muriatic acid, along with some storebought chems like CYA and of course pool salt. I guess you know about the BBB (bleach, borax, baking soda) system of maintenance? If not, check out troublefreepools.com, pretty cool stuff even for a non-chem idiot like me.
I'm not so familiar with the system, only used it once and the specialist was friends with the clients so he took care of it without much of my involvment. I did the project for the regular pool and once it was being built the guy took care of the rest. Will check out the link too, thanks for sharing
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Yes you can do it with a salt chlorinator or whatever it's called in english. The salt level is way lower than the dead sea tho if i remember correctly is the same salt level as a human teardrop.
Yeah, I keep mine at 3500-4000 ppm salt, I just checked and the Dead See is 330,000 ppm. Wow!
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze⏩
Seems like a neat concept but I would never attempt this in South Florida
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I don’t know. Every time I’ve gone swimming in a lake, I bust out all itchy with a rash. Probably a reaction to whatever was growing in it.
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**** no would much rather have an aesthetic infinity pool

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Originally Posted By tnthudson⏩
Yeah, I keep mine at 3500-4000 ppm salt, I just checked and the Dead See is 330,000 ppm. Wow!
Salt systems are ridiculously easy. I keep my salt between 3000 and 3200 PPM and with my generator running at 30% the chlorine is 1.5 PPM.
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I have a 1-ish acre pond stocked with catfish that I periodically pump fresh, cold well water into. I also run 3 large aerators to keep the oxygen levels up. Before I did all that it wasn't safe to swim in based on water tests. Clean as a whistle now. Snakes are an issue but a .410 easily takes care of it.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Cenotes are found in extremely hot an humid water. They're pretty much natural biopools and they seem to do ok with the climate
Cenotes would work but the rock bed where I live is more than 300 ft below the dirt. You'd have to either concrete or stone up underneath it which would negate the whole purpose
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
I have a 1-ish acre pond stocked with catfish that I periodically pump fresh, cold well water into. I also run 3 large aerators to keep the oxygen levels up. Before I did all that it wasn't safe to swim in based on water tests. Clean as a whistle now. Snakes are an issue but a .410 easily takes care of it.
There are tons of catfish farmers where I went to college with that same type of setup. One of my friends got this huge black and grey tattoo that forever I thought was just a coy fish like everyone gets. One day I was actually paying attention to it and realized it was a catfish lol. I always wondered why it didn't have any scales
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I've swam in ponds/lakes/rivers my entire life, so yeah I definitely wouldn't mind, except maintenance would be a PITA where I live. Extended periods of drought during summer followed by random tropical storm level rainfall the rest of the year would make it difficult to maintain an ecosystem that small.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
We built a small pond in our backyard when I was a teenager. That thing is a nightmare to keep going. It's constantly wanting to dry up, algae blooms (which are almost impossible to control when its 100 degrees with high humidity), the clay shifting from expanding and shrinking every year. We got 58 inches of rainfall a year so it isn't like it was a desert or anything. I love the idea of something like that but it just isn't practical where I live.

Luckily we don't have many pygmy rattlesnakes. It's mostly timber or diamondbacks. A baby timber rattlesnake bit my brother's date on the foot once at my Dad's. We were all drunk and I had to kill the snake with my boot so there would be enough of it left to take to the ER so they would know what type of antivenom to give her. That was a wild night
Yeah my dad has a little pond he made years ago in the backyard and has been struggling with it since. Seems like he's finally starting to wave the flag and accept defeat.

Thankfully haven't seen a pygmy since I lived in Orlando. One took a swipe at my buddy while mountain biking and that's when I realized what bishes they are. Now I live South Florida and get startled far too often when fishing by water snakes since they look so similar to moccasins at first glance.
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I bet swimming in that on a regular basis will build up your immune system; or else make you sick if you are already compromised.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Cenotes would work but the rock bed where I live is more than 300 ft below the dirt. You'd have to either concrete or stone up underneath it which would negate the whole purpose
Excavating on the rock bed is REALLY expensive, for example in that area of Mexico there's only an inch or two of topsoil and the rest is solid limestone. So you need mechanical excavators even for basic digging. In you area even considering the cost of puring a concrete base you would spend less than excavating on the rock bed. IF you pour a concrete slab on the "floor" and excavated the sides with a slope you would be good to go
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
The whole point of the biopool ecosystem is to make it self-regulatory so you don't have to worry about maintenance. I've done lots of regular pools in tropical places and they're a pain in the ass since they have bo constantly fighighting against the enviroment. In a properly designed and oxygenated biopool you don't have to worry about that

idk Im not convinced, it seems too good to be true, you are maintaining a non natural lake and it has to lasts through all the seasons and its very small so any changes have a large impact. example in a big outdoor late a few plants die, no big deal, but if a few plants die in your pond, the whole thing is thrown out of wack. Trying to keep it clean enough to swim in cannot be easy. even natural lakes get hit with too much run off fertilizer ect and have algae blooms ect.

lakes that were man made have a lot of problems and thats even for larger scale lakes.
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So many lakes here, not really necessary, but they do look buriful. Would be nice up here though, only thing you would have to worry about are leaches...but I'm sure the fish would take care of those, no snakes/gators etc.

OP what do you do? Do you really live in the jungle?
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swam in ponds and blue holes and such as a kid because there was no better option lol why would i go back to some mudhole when i can have a clean pool
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Originally Posted By TwoHumpChump⏩
So many lakes here, not really necessary, but they do look buriful. Would be nice up here though, only thing you would have to worry about are leaches...but I'm sure the fish would take care of those, no snakes/gators etc.

OP what do you do? Do you really live in the jungle?
I'm an architect and i do live in the jungle, not super remote far out jungle tho, there's a town about 15 minutes away from car.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
There are tons of catfish farmers where I went to college with that same type of setup. One of my friends got this huge black and grey tattoo that forever I thought was just a coy fish like everyone gets. One day I was actually paying attention to it and realized it was a catfish lol. I always wondered why it didn't have any scales
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
I'm an architect and i do live in the jungle, not super remote far out jungle tho, there's a town about 15 minutes away from car.
How sketchy would it be to swim in lakes and rivers in Peru?
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