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post 1615456241 09-03-2020, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE
odds on favorite is it was an accidental release of a bat virus they were studying.

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"In late April of 2012, six miners at Mojiang Mine fell ill with unknown pneumonia. They were brought to the Kunming University Hospital in Yunnan, which is about 250 km from the mine. Their symptoms include dry cough (all patients), sputum (all), high fever (all), difficulty breathing (5), myalgia (5), low blood oxygen levels (4), headaches (3), and blood clots (2). Treatments used were steroids (all), antivirals (5), ventilation (3), and blood thinners (2). And half of the miners (3) died in the end.
Samples (at least blood and thymus tissues) from the miners were sent to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to determine the causative agent. The conclusion made was that “the unknown virus lead to severe pneumonia could be: The SARS-like-CoV from the Chinese rufous horseshoe bat,” wrote the authors. So, the miners had a coronavirus infection."












































































"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
They stopped all flights from wuhan to their own country while still allowing them to NYC and chastizing Trump for threatening a travel ban while ALSO buying up all PPE months ahead of time.

Does it matter if the release was accidental?
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post 1615457251 09-03-2020, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
They stopped all flights from wuhan to their own country while still allowing them to NYC and chastizing Trump for threatening a travel ban while ALSO buying up all PPE months ahead of time.

Does it matter if the release was accidental?
Well, yes and no. Obviously intention matters - they probably didn't have some grand conspiracy to fuk over the world and kill millions as you alluded to. It doesn't absolve them of responsibility, but intention is the difference between a murder charge and a manslaughter charge in a court of law. Their actions after the release are that of a geo-political adversary and not surprising. That said, this was something that never should have happened, and they should be held accountable financially and the people who ran the lab should never be free again (if the Chinese haven't executed them already)
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post 1615483851 09-03-2020, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
They stopped all flights from wuhan to their own country while still allowing them to NYC and chastizing Trump for threatening a travel ban while ALSO buying up all PPE months ahead of time.

Does it matter if the release was accidental?
This.. Whilst hugely lying about the figures to all other countries and asking WHO to delay the announcement of it to other countries and trying to cover it all up as long as possible.
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Deliberate release or accidental release - they royally ****ed everyone else and lied about so much to financially gain themselves.

The world should give China a "taste of freedom" imo and split up all resources they seize to financially repay.

no fuks given.

The world is literally falling apart because of this. Look at America - literally the fall of rome v2

And just wait and see what happens when Trump inevitably gets reelected despite not getting a majority of votes. He's already even said that hes still gonna stay in because covid wont allow people to turn up to vote + postal votes arent reliable and hes best mates with putin (Hence him not doing anything about the Russian Bountys) so he will have the ruskies on his side.
post 1615485141 09-03-2020, 02:17 PM
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Interesting. I haven´t read the study yet, but this might have some validity to it. Theres a bunch of other ways that sars2 affect the body tho. It can target the kidney, lungs, liver, heart, adreneal gland, reproductive system and cross the BBB in several ways potentially. The bradykinin angle is interesting tho. Just goes to show how tricky this virus is. It´s definitely not just a respitory virus, that is clear. It´s like a combo of a bunch of differnt viruses. SARS2 mimic a lot of them. SARS, herpes, influenza, HIV, rabies, different coronaviruses, etc.. How it connects to different receptors with the protein s spikes, and how it kills t cells and phuck with DNA.


The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood-brain barrier in mice
http://archive.is/yejLn
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26105






Study: SARS2 Spike protein hijacks VEGF-A/Neuropilin-1 receptor signaling to induce analgesia.
>It can block the feeling of pain, which could explain why asymptomatics showing organ damage in CT scans feel normal
>If they can't feel the pain they will think nothing is wrong and super spread the virus without knowing it
>This could also mean that already stressed hospitals are missing a tsunami of patients that can't feel pain
archive.is/iV13i



“The increase in NfL levels, in particular, over time is greater than we’ve seen previously in studies connected with intensive care, and this suggests that COVID-19 can in fact directly bring about a brain injury. Whether it’s the virus or the immune system that’s causing this is unclear at present, and more research is needed,”
https://sahlgrenska.gu.se/english/re...-19.cid1689236


https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...53332220303875
>SARS-CoV-2 may infect the central nervous system(CNS), as the viral nucleic acid has been detected in patient's cerebrospinal fluid and brain tissue from autopsy. As for the route of virus entering the CNS, the blood route still needs to be further verified due to the existence of blood-brain barrier. But on the other hand, neuronal pathway is important vehicles for neurotropic viruses to enter the CNS
In addition, as the life center of human body, the brainstem controls vital functions such as heart beating, blood pressure maintenance and respiration. Studies have shown that some coronaviruses can invade brainstem via a synapse-connected route from the lungs and airways.


The four known ways in which SARS-CoV-2 affects human brain
>When it comes to the brain and nerves, the virus appears to have four main sets of effects:
>A confused state (known as delirium or encephalopathy), sometimes with psychosis and memory disturbance.
>Inflammation of the brain (known as encephalitis). This includes a form showing inflammatory lesions – acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) – together with the effects of low oxygen in the brain.
>Blood clots, leading to stroke (including in younger patients).
>Potential damage to the nerves in the body, causing pain and numbness (for example in the form of post-infectious Guillain-Barré syndrome, in which your body’s immune system attacks your nerves).
http://archive.is/7Y538
post 1615486011 09-03-2020, 02:30 PM
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It also suggests 10-plus potential treatments, many of which are already FDA approved.
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Originally Posted By LexBrah
The biggest question mark around this all for me is;

Why has there been ZERO repercussions for China?
They've ****ed the economy, ruined the lives of hundreds of millions of people around the world, hundreds of thousands (Soon to be millions) of people dead - no repercussions at all?
I don't think China is in the clear yet. A lot of pieces are in motion with companies looking to relocate their manufacturing. I also am still curious about the decision to pull US troops from bases in Germany.
Originally Posted By rectifryer
They stopped all flights from wuhan to their own country while still allowing them to NYC and chastizing Trump for threatening a travel ban while ALSO buying up all PPE months ahead of time.

Does it matter if the release was accidental?
I lean toward accidental lab release. The thing with allowing international flights? I can't think of a single good excuse for that. Not one.

At the very least regime change seems called for.
Originally Posted By moosik85
Watch this get memory holed
Well if post #12 is correct then the idea has been at the very least overshadowed. And the study was release in July IIRC.

So no major news provider picked up on it? Seems odd to me. I know that a lot of smaller papers shut down and remaining newsrooms may be understaffed, but C-19 has been THE story for months so I can't imagine there aren't entry level journalists assigned to comb through medical journals and such.

Maybe it has just been lost in the noise. Or maybe in the US some left leaning media entities don't want to break this story right now for tactical reasons. Or maybe the big pharma companies pouring money into vaccinations don't want real treatments to be available as it could reduce the sales of a potential vaccine.

But to get memory holed people would have to actually hear about it.
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Originally Posted By katya422
I don't think China is in the clear yet. A lot of pieces are in motion with companies looking to relocate their manufacturing. I also am still curious about the decision to pull US troops from bases in Germany.



I lean toward accidental lab release. The thing with allowing international flights? I can't think of a single good excuse for that. Not one.

At the very least regime change seems called for.



Well if post #12 is correct then the idea has been at the very least overshadowed. And the study was release in July IIRC.

So no major news provider picked up on it? Seems odd to me. I know that a lot of smaller papers shut down and remaining newsrooms may be understaffed, but C-19 has been THE story for months so I can't imagine there aren't entry level journalists assigned to comb through medical journals and such.

Maybe it has just been lost in the noise. Or maybe in the US some left leaning media entities don't want to break this story right now for tactical reasons. Or maybe the big pharma companies pouring money into vaccinations don't want real treatments to be available as it could reduce the sales of a potential vaccine.

But to get memory holed people would have to actually hear about it.
It’s all about the vaccine and control. If it was about health and safety they would be encouraging the very things that keep people healthy. Exercise, diet and socialising.



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