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Because if they didnt shift the blame to orange bad man from the true culprits- the democratic governors of those states, then where would we find our CNN MSN narratives?
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10-08-2020, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By JGats⏩
Found one trapped in the cave!!!You should have jumped on him for suggesting that China shares borders with the United States, instead of calling it a travel ban. It would have been funnier and made more sense.
Travel bans don't work guys. We need more lockdowns. Because clearly those... didn't work? Uhh, well.. More masks!!1 ...Are they buying into the propaganda yet? Surely the controversial travel ban must have spread the China virus somehow. And Trump's cavalier attitude must have weakened our immune systems.
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Travel bans don't work guys. We need more lockdowns. Because clearly those... didn't work? Uhh, well.. More masks!!1 ...Are they buying into the propaganda yet? Surely the controversial travel ban must have spread the China virus somehow. And Trump's cavalier attitude must have weakened our immune systems.
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10-08-2020, 10:09 AM
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Brb "experts" claim that even if everything is done perfectly the number of deaths will be hundreds of thousands
Brb medical establishment does everything they can to inflate numbers including intentionally getting old people sick
Brb majority of deaths in dem states
Brb 200k died because Trump's fault, didn't handle it properly
And people still listen to these retards.
Brb medical establishment does everything they can to inflate numbers including intentionally getting old people sick
Brb majority of deaths in dem states
Brb 200k died because Trump's fault, didn't handle it properly
And people still listen to these retards.
10-08-2020, 10:10 AM
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Harris kept bragging she was on the senate intel committee yesterday.
Pence should have called her out when she was talking about Trump and Pence knew since january blah blah blah because the senate intel committee was also briefed on corona in January and WTF did she do?
These debates have all around been terrible, so much crap they could have called each other on and all they do is launch into rehearsed speeches.
Pence also failed to bring up all the times she called Biden racist in 2019 which would have been a huge ether.
Moderator also specifically asked her what she and Biden would have done differently and all she did was rehash her speech on how bad Drumpf is and not actually answer the question on what she would have done, besides vague chit like der her have more PPE and tests, by what by magic?
Pence should have called her out when she was talking about Trump and Pence knew since january blah blah blah because the senate intel committee was also briefed on corona in January and WTF did she do?
These debates have all around been terrible, so much crap they could have called each other on and all they do is launch into rehearsed speeches.
Pence also failed to bring up all the times she called Biden racist in 2019 which would have been a huge ether.
Moderator also specifically asked her what she and Biden would have done differently and all she did was rehash her speech on how bad Drumpf is and not actually answer the question on what she would have done, besides vague chit like der her have more PPE and tests, by what by magic?
10-08-2020, 10:13 AM
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The irony is there's a trade-off. I could have kept the number of deaths lower. Anyone could have by going full on nazi and locking everyone in a bubble.
But everything comes at a price. Sure Biden might have chosen steps that resulted in lower COVID deaths, but your naive if you think it wouldn't have raised unemployment, failed businesses, and a broken economy that would take even longer to fix.
So yeah, pretty much anybody in the world COULD have had lower numbers if put in charge of this whole thing.
But it's not a 1 dimensional issue here. Anyone who can't see that or tries to run on that platform shouldn't be in charge period.
But everything comes at a price. Sure Biden might have chosen steps that resulted in lower COVID deaths, but your naive if you think it wouldn't have raised unemployment, failed businesses, and a broken economy that would take even longer to fix.
So yeah, pretty much anybody in the world COULD have had lower numbers if put in charge of this whole thing.
But it's not a 1 dimensional issue here. Anyone who can't see that or tries to run on that platform shouldn't be in charge period.
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10-08-2020, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By trufflepigg⏩
Even with that inflated 200k number, their own data says 65% of those 200k were OVER 85 years old. Those people were going to die in the next year anyways.i think the real question is, do people really believe 200k people died from Covid? Or died with Covid with inflated numbers. I bet the actual deaths is a fraction of that number. And do people really believe that USA has the most cases in the entire world? Like do people use any critical thought on this stuff?
OK, now we have 70k deaths under 85, how many of those people had cancer, HIV, all this other chit? They were going to die anyways, but if they have a covid test, the same ones that had positives on a grapefruit sample, then its an instant covid death.
The entire thing is political theater.
10-08-2020, 10:17 AM
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Ron Klain, who served as chief of staff to Biden before being appointed to serve as President Barack Obama's "Ebola Czar," said at the National Press Club in 2019:
I was in the White House in 2009 and 2010, and I was working for Vice President Biden. I wasn't involved directly in the H1N1 response, but I lived through it as a White House staffer, and what I would say about it is: A bunch of really great, really talented people were working on it and we did every possible thing wrong.
Klain continued, "Sixty million Americans got H1N1 in that period of time, and it's just purely a fortuity that this isn't one of the great mass casualty events in American history."
He added, "It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck."
I was in the White House in 2009 and 2010, and I was working for Vice President Biden. I wasn't involved directly in the H1N1 response, but I lived through it as a White House staffer, and what I would say about it is: A bunch of really great, really talented people were working on it and we did every possible thing wrong.
Klain continued, "Sixty million Americans got H1N1 in that period of time, and it's just purely a fortuity that this isn't one of the great mass casualty events in American history."
He added, "It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck."
10-08-2020, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
Here's where a crucial piece of the pie was missing. Leadership. A good leader knows how to navigate these subculture issues.Don't dismiss the fact that even if we did everything identical (rules) as other countries the outcomes would be different. Americans don't follow rules well. States differ and so do our subcultures.
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10-08-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Even their lord and savior Fauci predicted more. Like Pence said last night, they are playing politics with people’s lives.That's what I get from it. If it were 50k deaths, they'd still come after him. It's like they expect this perfect scenario where no one dies.
10-08-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Your little cloth mask doesnt do jack chit.Leadership matters. If Trump advocated wearing a mask, many more would believe and follow him.
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10-08-2020, 10:54 AM
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Biden has a long history of political corruption and racism. Possibly with Klan ties. Nobody gives a single fukk.
As far as Harris. I don't think she's a racist but an argument can be made that she built her career on exploiting the black community. She literally spent her entire career as part of a system in a position of power/leadership/control and has a history of unethical behavior.
The game is just call Trump a racist long enough so plebs start to believe it. Even though they can't provide a single example of racism by Trump. Ignore the past of Biden and Harris which involves a lifetime of everything they now campaign against. I honestly believe evidence could surface that Biden participated in lynchings and it would be ignored/discredited by the same people calling Trump racist. Lmao.
As far as Harris. I don't think she's a racist but an argument can be made that she built her career on exploiting the black community. She literally spent her entire career as part of a system in a position of power/leadership/control and has a history of unethical behavior.
The game is just call Trump a racist long enough so plebs start to believe it. Even though they can't provide a single example of racism by Trump. Ignore the past of Biden and Harris which involves a lifetime of everything they now campaign against. I honestly believe evidence could surface that Biden participated in lynchings and it would be ignored/discredited by the same people calling Trump racist. Lmao.
10-08-2020, 10:59 AM
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Let's face it. All politicians were to blame. They should have shut down flights from China last year in December. But they were all too busy with the impeachment nonsense.
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10-08-2020, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Negged for being a stupid khunt. You type that out and then disregard it all by saying it doesn't make sense. Why even type that nonsense up? Btw I live in the u.k before you claim im biased or anythingThe only argument would make sense is that the Coronavirus is indeed a created virus in a lab and that the only reason why it spread here was because of their bad international relationship and thus they just spread it on here. Meaning that if Trump was not the President, they wouldn't spread it here.
Of course it doesn't make that much sense given that it's a world pandemic, not a country one.
Of course it doesn't make that much sense given that it's a world pandemic, not a country one.
10-08-2020, 11:01 AM
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What I love about the allegory of Plato's cave is that it's a big, solid red pill all the way through and encourages you to think for yourself and to seek out the truth. I use it to explain fake news and social media to people without hitting too close to home.I was paid to post this
200k deaths is a really great shadow puppet don't you think? Not really. The mental mind isn't much of a prison for the audience if you can just walk right out. If you really want to keep people in a cave, then all you have to do is get them addicted to drugs and tell them that in order to buy more drugs, they have to live in a cave and perform shadow puppets for an audience.
Then they will stay in the cave forever, and maybe even like it there. And maybe if they perform well enough, then they will actually begin to believe their own performance. The real world is scary and not at all what they imagined it to be, plus they have no friends and their family is insufferable and they needed a cave to stay in anyway.
So it works out perfectly for you.
10-08-2020, 11:08 AM
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They love to say 200k deaths from covid, but fail to realize over four million people die every year in the U.S.
How many of these people would’ve died in 2020 with or without covid?
There’s a trend with all the people that are dying too.... elderly and obese
People die everyday!
How many of these people would’ve died in 2020 with or without covid?
There’s a trend with all the people that are dying too.... elderly and obese
People die everyday!
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10-08-2020, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By GM54⏩
Why would you even think to say or score it as Trump=200,000 vs Biden=0.do you, honestly, believe that if biden was in charge we would have 0 deaths? It is mind boggling to me how the liberal media is trying to pin every single last death on one man. is the media behind this or are every day liberals that stupid?
That is silly talk! What it should be is what federal rules would we have implemented earlier(Feb) to have less than 200,000 when he was talking to Bob Woodward about it being airborne and 5 times worse than the flu?
cliffs: we would have started everything in Feb.
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10-08-2020, 11:21 AM
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War is young men dying and old men (and now add a kunt to) talking. You know this. Ignore the politics.
10-08-2020, 11:32 AM
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Anyone who thinks that things would be demonstrably different with someone else in charge is stupid. The only thing that would have made a difference is a severe lockdown. That's about it. Everything else is simply about delaying the inevitable.
I live in CA and we're far more influenced by our governor than Trump (along with everyone else in every other state), and even Newsome can't do anything about it.
I live in CA and we're far more influenced by our governor than Trump (along with everyone else in every other state), and even Newsome can't do anything about it.
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10-08-2020, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Droopdx⏩
Wait, you're telling me old people die?They love to say 200k deaths from covid, but fail to realize over four million people die every year in the U.S.
How many of these people would’ve died in 2020 with or without covid?
There’s a trend with all the people that are dying too.... elderly and obese
People die everyday!
How many of these people would’ve died in 2020 with or without covid?
There’s a trend with all the people that are dying too.... elderly and obese
People die everyday!
10-08-2020, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By KingofLifts⏩
Yeah, but can't blame that on any sitting Pres. He will be undermined by politics. States are Blue and Red. One race won't listen to a Leader from another race, etc..Here's where a crucial piece of the pie was missing. Leadership. A good leader knows how to navigate these subculture issues.
Another example, my inlaws are hispanic. They all said "yeah, we are on lockdown, let's all gather at Abuela's house and bring her food. " There is no stopping some subcultures from doing what they do.
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10-08-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By JGats⏩
Man oh man.What I love about the allegory of Plato's cave is that it's a big, solid red pill all the way through and encourages you to think for yourself and to seek out the truth. I use it to explain fake news and social media to people without hitting too close to home.
200k deaths is a really great shadow puppet don't you think? Not really. The mental mind isn't much of a prison for the audience if you can just walk right out. If you really want to keep people in a cave, then all you have to do is get them addicted to drugs and tell them that in order to buy more drugs, they have to live in a cave and perform shadow puppets for an audience.
Then they will stay in the cave forever, and maybe even like it there. And maybe if they perform well enough, then they will actually begin to believe their own performance. The real world is scary and not at all what they imagined it to be, plus they have no friends and their family is insufferable and they needed a cave to stay in anyway.
So it works out perfectly for you.
200k deaths is a really great shadow puppet don't you think? Not really. The mental mind isn't much of a prison for the audience if you can just walk right out. If you really want to keep people in a cave, then all you have to do is get them addicted to drugs and tell them that in order to buy more drugs, they have to live in a cave and perform shadow puppets for an audience.
Then they will stay in the cave forever, and maybe even like it there. And maybe if they perform well enough, then they will actually begin to believe their own performance. The real world is scary and not at all what they imagined it to be, plus they have no friends and their family is insufferable and they needed a cave to stay in anyway.
So it works out perfectly for you.
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10-08-2020, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By JGats⏩
Takes first year philosophy course, misunderstands Plato's Cave.What I love about the allegory of Plato's cave is that it's a big, solid red pill all the way through and encourages you to think for yourself and to seek out the truth. I use it to explain fake news and social media to people without hitting too close to home.
200k deaths is a really great shadow puppet don't you think? Not really. The mental mind isn't much of a prison for the audience if you can just walk right out. If you really want to keep people in a cave, then all you have to do is get them addicted to drugs and tell them that in order to buy more drugs, they have to live in a cave and perform shadow puppets for an audience.
Then they will stay in the cave forever, and maybe even like it there. And maybe if they perform well enough, then they will actually begin to believe their own performance. The real world is scary and not at all what they imagined it to be, plus they have no friends and their family is insufferable and they needed a cave to stay in anyway.
So it works out perfectly for you.
200k deaths is a really great shadow puppet don't you think? Not really. The mental mind isn't much of a prison for the audience if you can just walk right out. If you really want to keep people in a cave, then all you have to do is get them addicted to drugs and tell them that in order to buy more drugs, they have to live in a cave and perform shadow puppets for an audience.
Then they will stay in the cave forever, and maybe even like it there. And maybe if they perform well enough, then they will actually begin to believe their own performance. The real world is scary and not at all what they imagined it to be, plus they have no friends and their family is insufferable and they needed a cave to stay in anyway.
So it works out perfectly for you.
10-08-2020, 12:07 PM
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regardless who...the person in power will take the blame
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
He's trying to equate it to some dumb fad of "red pill, blue pill, black pill" lmaoTakes first year philosophy course, misunderstands Plato's Cave.
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10-08-2020, 12:13 PM
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It's ridiculous to blame him for every last death, but he opened himself up to it with all his trolling.
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10-08-2020, 12:17 PM
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Well, he is right.It's ridiculous to blame him for every last death, but he opened himself up to it with all his trolling.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
this. tbh, he could have "saved" many more lives and then been blamed for a chit economy. I'm okay with how things have been handled for the most part.The irony is there's a trade-off. I could have kept the number of deaths lower. Anyone could have by going full on nazi and locking everyone in a bubble.
But everything comes at a price. Sure Biden might have chosen steps that resulted in lower COVID deaths, but your naive if you think it wouldn't have raised unemployment, failed businesses, and a broken economy that would take even longer to fix.
So yeah, pretty much anybody in the world COULD have had lower numbers if put in charge of this whole thing.
But it's not a 1 dimensional issue here. Anyone who can't see that or tries to run on that platform shouldn't be in charge period.
But everything comes at a price. Sure Biden might have chosen steps that resulted in lower COVID deaths, but your naive if you think it wouldn't have raised unemployment, failed businesses, and a broken economy that would take even longer to fix.
So yeah, pretty much anybody in the world COULD have had lower numbers if put in charge of this whole thing.
But it's not a 1 dimensional issue here. Anyone who can't see that or tries to run on that platform shouldn't be in charge period.
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10-08-2020, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
If you do the basic math based on the WHO's numbers, the WORLD death rate from the virus is 0.13%Let's not forget the actual death count from Covid was only around 10k.
1,000,000 deaths ÷ 750,000,000 infected = 0.0013 x 100 = 0.13%
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That’s all pretending that there’s actually 210k deaths. But if there was only 1 death, it would be all Trumps fault.
10-08-2020, 01:28 PM
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I find validity in the statement. My tucker-watching father in law drove the point home early on that the virus was extremely serious and to take it seriously and to wear a mask in public. This was in early february. I didnt do anything until mid march.
Cases were rising dramatically in our area and I actually wore one of my work masks at the grocery store before it was required, and people looked at me like I had four heads. A few weeks later we were completely shut down. If there had been stronger leadership at the start because stupid people need to be led, we would maybe see numbers more in like with the rest of the developed world. You cant point out countries like sweden and say, well they never locked down, because their people all voluntarily adapted and understood what was happening. We have massive cities here full of giant ****heads. That being said I dont believe the virus has killed many who wouldnt have died anyways and hasnt overloaded the hospitals.
Cases were rising dramatically in our area and I actually wore one of my work masks at the grocery store before it was required, and people looked at me like I had four heads. A few weeks later we were completely shut down. If there had been stronger leadership at the start because stupid people need to be led, we would maybe see numbers more in like with the rest of the developed world. You cant point out countries like sweden and say, well they never locked down, because their people all voluntarily adapted and understood what was happening. We have massive cities here full of giant ****heads. That being said I dont believe the virus has killed many who wouldnt have died anyways and hasnt overloaded the hospitals.
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