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Study: 75% of 30+ year old are still without their first child
Study: 75% of 30+ year old are still without their first child
11-22-2020, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy⏩
Maybe it wouldn't be so hard to afford the financial reponsibilities of having kids if we weren't taxed to hell and back to give handouts to "refugees" and immigrants with zero regard to merit.should be higher. Don't have kids unless you can afford them. Most people can't, yet have them.
Plus, the way society is going right now, you have to be foolish or selfish to have children right now.
Plus, the way society is going right now, you have to be foolish or selfish to have children right now.
11-22-2020, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Someone who knows life is on easy mode compared to the past. People were popping out kids left and right when the murder rate was 10x higher everywhere, when there was a high chance 2 of your 8 kids would die before becoming teenagers, maybe your wife in labor. Single fathers were the norm not long ago from dead mothers in labor. 19th century you either worked on a farm with your hands and sweat all day or in a factory. The standard work week was 6 days a week, 10-12 hrs a day. BRB, drinking water that would give us diarrhea today, everyone you know is poor and probably has either rickets, measles, chickenpox, tuberculosis, or f'n scabies. Not as well off as today's homeless.Well what kind of madman would want to raise a child in this world right now?
BRB, no electricity. No air conditioning. Certainly no Costco. Baseball was exciting. Walk everywhere and if you're relatively ballin' you have a horse or two.
People were still having tons of kids and enjoying them. Compared to almost everyone before 100 yrs ago even in the western world we're all a bunch of Karens complaining about our luxuries and mansions. Dude, the average family home in 1950 was 950 sq ft with larger families than today. Kids were still dying of polio. The seatbelt in your car was a prayer to Jesus to protect you.
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11-22-2020, 03:11 PM
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miscers are hilarious.
cry about their demographic's rapid population decline and how it's a genocide butbragabout how they will never reproduce
fake ass low IQ online "traditional conservatives"
cry about their demographic's rapid population decline and how it's a genocide butbragabout how they will never reproduce
fake ass low IQ online "traditional conservatives"
11-22-2020, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
this, shoutout tot he refugee and immigrant brahs but fkk manMaybe it wouldn't be so hard to afford the financial reponsibilities of having kids if we weren't taxed to hell and back to give handouts to "refugees" and immigrants with zero regard to merit.
11-22-2020, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
dude a lot of these Miscer "conservative" types are lazy whiny babies just like the type of libs they hate.Someone who knows life is on easy mode compared to the past. People were popping out kids left and right when the murder rate was 10x higher everywhere, when there was a high chance 2 of your 8 kids would die before becoming teenagers, maybe your wife in labor. Single fathers were the norm not long ago from dead mothers in labor. 19th century you either worked on a farm with your hands and sweat all day or in a factory. The standard work week was 6 days a week, 10-12 hrs a day. BRB, drinking water that would give us diarrhea today, everyone you know is poor and probably has either rickets, measles, chickenpox, tuberculosis, or f'n scabies. Not as well off as today's homeless.
BRB, no electricity. No air conditioning. Certainly no Costco. Baseball was exciting. Walk everywhere and if you're relatively ballin' you have a horse or two.
People were still having tons of kids and enjoying them. Compared to almost everyone before 100 yrs ago even in the western world we're all a bunch of Karens complaining about our luxuries and mansions. Dude, the average family home in 1950 was 950 sq ft with larger families than today. Kids were still dying of polio. The seatbelt in your car was a prayer to Jesus to protect you.
BRB, no electricity. No air conditioning. Certainly no Costco. Baseball was exciting. Walk everywhere and if you're relatively ballin' you have a horse or two.
People were still having tons of kids and enjoying them. Compared to almost everyone before 100 yrs ago even in the western world we're all a bunch of Karens complaining about our luxuries and mansions. Dude, the average family home in 1950 was 950 sq ft with larger families than today. Kids were still dying of polio. The seatbelt in your car was a prayer to Jesus to protect you.
they really think the world is worse than it ever has been and it's too hard to have kids in 2020. even though every generation has had their challenges to overcome and still reproduced.
then they will watch their group's numbers dwindle and blame others for the consequences of them CHOOSING not to reproduce
these "traditional conservative" guys on here have a lazy, whiny, entitled, victim mentality like they claim others have
11-22-2020, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
It's all about the $$$$Someone who knows life is on easy mode compared to the past. People were popping out kids left and right when the murder rate was 10x higher everywhere, when there was a high chance 2 of your 8 kids would die before becoming teenagers, maybe your wife in labor. Single fathers were the norm not long ago from dead mothers in labor. 19th century you either worked on a farm with your hands and sweat all day or in a factory. The standard work week was 6 days a week, 10-12 hrs a day. BRB, drinking water that would give us diarrhea today, everyone you know is poor and probably has either rickets, measles, chickenpox, tuberculosis, or f'n scabies. Not as well off as today's homeless.
BRB, no electricity. No air conditioning. Certainly no Costco. Baseball was exciting. Walk everywhere and if you're relatively ballin' you have a horse or two.
People were still having tons of kids and enjoying them. Compared to almost everyone before 100 yrs ago even in the western world we're all a bunch of Karens complaining about our luxuries and mansions. Dude, the average family home in 1950 was 950 sq ft with larger families than today. Kids were still dying of polio. The seatbelt in your car was a prayer to Jesus to protect you.
BRB, no electricity. No air conditioning. Certainly no Costco. Baseball was exciting. Walk everywhere and if you're relatively ballin' you have a horse or two.
People were still having tons of kids and enjoying them. Compared to almost everyone before 100 yrs ago even in the western world we're all a bunch of Karens complaining about our luxuries and mansions. Dude, the average family home in 1950 was 950 sq ft with larger families than today. Kids were still dying of polio. The seatbelt in your car was a prayer to Jesus to protect you.
Having kids back then was value added. They would work on your farm until you die and then you split it up between them. And if you had a lot of kids in succession you only had to raise the first 1 or 2 and then they would raise the rest.
The days the avg kid costs over 250k to age 18. Let me know when you have a cool million sitting around to raise 4 kids.
You'll notice that wealthy people are having as many kids as they can pop out. Bezos has 4, Musk has 6, Gates has 3, Buffett has 3, Zuckerberg has 2 (and will probably have more) , Ellison has 2, Ballmer has 3, Page has 2, Brin has 3. The average American male has 1.93.
11-22-2020, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
No its because you got trolled into believing your career and tax revenue is more important than raising a family. Don't worry capitalism will figure out a way to replace what a family gives you for free.Information > intelligence > fewer children
Many people not having kids because they're aware of BS that they weren't aware of in 1990.
Many people not having kids because they're aware of BS that they weren't aware of in 1990.
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11-22-2020, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
You could raise a family on one income.dude a lot of these Miscer "conservative" types are lazy whiny babies just like the type of libs they hate.
they really think the world is worse than it ever has been and it's too hard to have kids in 2020. even though every generation has had their challenges to overcome and still reproduced.
then they will watch their group's numbers dwindle and blame others for the consequences of them CHOOSING not to reproduce
these "traditional conservative" guys on here have a lazy, whiny, entitled, victim mentality like they claim others have
they really think the world is worse than it ever has been and it's too hard to have kids in 2020. even though every generation has had their challenges to overcome and still reproduced.
then they will watch their group's numbers dwindle and blame others for the consequences of them CHOOSING not to reproduce
these "traditional conservative" guys on here have a lazy, whiny, entitled, victim mentality like they claim others have
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11-22-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
Lol what does having kids give you for free? The avg kid costs over 250k to raise. Maybe they are working so hard on their career because they need to it pay for the overinflated housing, schooling, and insurance that their kid need to have opportunities in life.No its because you got trolled into believing your career and tax revenue is more important than raising a family. Don't worry capitalism will figure out a way to replace what a family gives you for free.
11-22-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By AnotherAlt⏩
Yeah unless you're well off and have your life totally setup, like you got tons of money in the bank, your own house, and a great paying job with fantastic job security, it's just irresponsible to be having kids. Most millennials aren't in that position.It's all about the $$$$
Having kids back then was value added. They would work on your farm until you die and then you split it up between them. And if you had a lot of kids in succession you only had to raise the first 1 or 2 and then they would raise the rest.
The days the avg kid costs over 250k to age 18. Let me know when you have a cool million sitting around to raise 4 kids.
You'll notice that wealthy people are having as many kids as they can pop out. Bezos has 4, Musk has 6, Gates has 3, Buffett has 3, Zuckerberg has 2 (and will probably have more) , Ellison has 2, Ballmer has 3, Page has 2, Brin has 3. The average American male has 1.93.
Having kids back then was value added. They would work on your farm until you die and then you split it up between them. And if you had a lot of kids in succession you only had to raise the first 1 or 2 and then they would raise the rest.
The days the avg kid costs over 250k to age 18. Let me know when you have a cool million sitting around to raise 4 kids.
You'll notice that wealthy people are having as many kids as they can pop out. Bezos has 4, Musk has 6, Gates has 3, Buffett has 3, Zuckerberg has 2 (and will probably have more) , Ellison has 2, Ballmer has 3, Page has 2, Brin has 3. The average American male has 1.93.
11-22-2020, 03:39 PM
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Yep world is becoming full of fuk ups extremely fast.
11-22-2020, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
Most of your money is going to the top 1%, not the people at the bottom. The wealth gap is growing larger every year. Amazon and Walmart are the biggest welfare leaches, by far.Maybe it wouldn't be so hard to afford the financial reponsibilities of having kids if we weren't taxed to hell and back to give handouts to "refugees" and immigrants with zero regard to merit.
11-22-2020, 03:50 PM
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bet every minority has multiple children with different dads
11-22-2020, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Also tech companies that siphon off their profits to Ireland or Mexico or wherever they can dodge taxes on it.Most of your money is going to the top 1%, not the people at the bottom. The wealth gap is growing larger every year. Amazon and Walmart are the biggest welfare leaches, by far.
Cruise companies are based out of Panama and other countries specifically to avoid U.S. taxes. Yet they still had the audacity to beg the USG for a bailout in March.
11-22-2020, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TheIronAsylum⏩
what's your excuse for not having a nice big traditional conservative family? too poor/didn't work hard enough? too oppressed by minorities, liberals, and Soros? which winey baby "Western conservative" excuse will you use?bet every minority has multiple children with different dads
11-22-2020, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By SM0KINGKUSH⏩
mirin, she not a baller, but she figured out how to live an easy and comfortable life lol.bro i have a sister who is single mom, 2 children with different men.
BRB 950 A MONTH from welfare
brb 500 a month for each child (1k)
brb the men have their wages garnished... 300 from one and 500 from the other.... this is per paychek so another 1600$ a month
she doesnt work. rents a house, drives a newer CHEVY. claims disability (depression/anxiety) another 300$ a month.
she makes over 3k a month and all she does it make her kids breakfast/take em to school/hang out on FB all day/pick up kids and make supper and then repeat...
BRB 950 A MONTH from welfare
brb 500 a month for each child (1k)
brb the men have their wages garnished... 300 from one and 500 from the other.... this is per paychek so another 1600$ a month
she doesnt work. rents a house, drives a newer CHEVY. claims disability (depression/anxiety) another 300$ a month.
she makes over 3k a month and all she does it make her kids breakfast/take em to school/hang out on FB all day/pick up kids and make supper and then repeat...
not good for her kids though
11-22-2020, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By CeBKa⏩
If I have one it will be 40-45 with someone younger of course.Older misc brahs, what is the ideal age to have kids at ? if there is one
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11-22-2020, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
I'm 28 right now and have similar things in mind. As soon as I get my career/job within the next 6 months hopefully I am saving, travelling, and just living free for the next 3-4 years probably. No time for family or kids right now.I'm 35, and thought I'd have interest in settling down and having kids by now, but still have none. Although there are some elements of family life that do appeal to me, I'm not ready to finish traveling or doing other activities that will undoubtedly disappear after marriage.
the thought of having a kid right now is so depressing.
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11-22-2020, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
You also worked 60 hrs a week, just 50 if you were lucky. The average new (larger) home was less than 1000 sq ft. Cars were lucky to last 70,000 miles...with a lot of repairs. Now you can buy a so-so brand car that's 5 yrs old and drive it at least another 100,000 miles. But yes, you didn't have to buy your 6 yr old a chromebook for school, you didn't have child protective services showing up at your house for a year because your 8 yr old was riding their bike a mile away from home. Pros and cons of now and then. We had our second child during this pandemic. I wish he'd have been born a year before or later, but nothing's perfect.You could raise a family on one income.
It seems like most people today think their lives have to be perfect before even thinking of having kids. Most everyone in the past was just winging it themselves. Don't let Hollywood make you think parents knew what they were doing better than we do today. They didn't. While most kids had 2 parent homes back in the day, many of them were households similar to mine in the 80s and 90s where my dad worked 50-55 hours M-F, then a half day on Saturdays. And he was in bed way before I was. Practically only saw the guy at dinnertime and on Sundays.
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11-22-2020, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
the no kids crew and how they dont even want kids are purely coping. notice most of these dudes arn't even in a relationship that say this.Just like the glowless sloots hate life after being 35 and single, so will all men regret their life decisions of no children at 50 IMO.
I already have many cousins at passed 40 still trying to live the bachelor life and its cringey af. Children = happiness.
I know it's an inconvenience monetarily, but life is about more than money, srs. It will be a sad existence being old and childless and I can pretty much guarantee you guys will regret it.
I already have many cousins at passed 40 still trying to live the bachelor life and its cringey af. Children = happiness.
I know it's an inconvenience monetarily, but life is about more than money, srs. It will be a sad existence being old and childless and I can pretty much guarantee you guys will regret it.
if a good woman popped into their life they'd leave that crew in an instant. Their insistence on that bs crew is to cope for failing to land a good woman, which is becoming increasingly difficult due to a lower supply. Due to obesity, cock carousel riding, social media simps inflating their self-worth, just to name a few.... The good ones tend to get snatched up early and even if you go for them young most "good ones" arn't going to want some dude whos a decade older+ when they have access to tons of decent dudes their own age in their social circles.
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Originally Posted By Turtok⏩
Most of the misc is so misogynist they would never recognize a good woman. All women are bad in their minds.if a good woman popped into their life they'd leave that crew in an instant.
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I'm going to be 29 this december and having kids didn't even enter my mind, I'm planning of retiring early and knowledgemax and gymmax, I have no plan of paying child support and alimony and live in poverty just lol!
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11-22-2020, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By ZamboniDriver⏩
Disagree.no point in having kids unless your ballin. if im successful enough to set my kids up with a trust fund I will have kids. im if im still a poorcel at that age I will unfortunately not have kids.
ive learned 80% if your life is determined by your parents. if you ant privateschoolmaxx, trustfundmaxx, popwarnermaxx, nutritionmaxx for them then I won't bring a soul into this world just so they can wagecuck. thats cruel imo.
ive learned 80% if your life is determined by your parents. if you ant privateschoolmaxx, trustfundmaxx, popwarnermaxx, nutritionmaxx for them then I won't bring a soul into this world just so they can wagecuck. thats cruel imo.
I'd say the first 18 years of your life are predominantly determined by your parents. Could argue that this bleeds further on into your lower/mid twenties, since you could've had advantages (free car, free tuition, etc.). But regardless by the time you're 25+, your life is your own fault and problem. You either have some meaningful education or you haven't. You either began a career or you didn't.
Makes the ratio more like ~33% of your life is predominantly predetermined by your parents. Assuming you live till your 70's+.
Solely looking at independence / finances here.
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Not exactly a bad thing but not a good thing in some cases also.
We have wayyyyy too many people on this planet.
The downside is that the people that shouldn't be having a lot of kids are having a lot of kids.
We have wayyyyy too many people on this planet.
The downside is that the people that shouldn't be having a lot of kids are having a lot of kids.
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