I feel like I am. Not just with girls but people in general.

-Struggle to connect with people
-No idea what to talk about with them
-Most social events feel like a chore rather than something to look forward to
-Hard time trusting others
-Not good at making friends
-Always an outcast in team/group settings... don’t work well with others basically

Not just personally but professionally as well. Even within family settings too.

I’ve tried switching environments (new friends, new jobs, new cities, new universities) and there’s never a place that I’ve really fit. Mostly just consider myself a lost cause at this point.

Starting to accept I’ll always be out of place no matter what.

I imagine a lot other miscers are like this too

Yea same

I get along great with my two normie friends and I genuinely love them and they have been amazing friends to me for over 20 years.

But I think completely differently from them. I can’t relate to the way they see the world and the things they think about. They are focused on their kids and various chores and errands and a social calendar. And everyone in their social circle is like them. They’re all on that same frequency and I’m in a completely different place mentally.

Lmao I do this. Idk how normie people are so comfortable with eye contact. You’re looking into someone’s soul and anexistential abyss.

It took me making a beast of myself, and actually realizing that I'm a man, an above average one at that. and that means a lot. Social life means nothing.

Yea these are recent conversations with my best friend:

Brb one kid peed on the carpet

Brb other kid kept her up all night

Brb kid vomited all over the bed

Brb other kid has cold symptoms and needs a COVID test

Brb need to go Christmas shopping

Brb made family Christmas cards but the formatting for preprinted addresses didn’t work

Brb other friend has an argument with her sister in law

Brb husband is refinancing the mortgage and keeps asking for documents

Brb Peloton bike is on backorder

Brb brb

Pretty much but I'm also always drunk so that helps. I'd rather be dead though

The problem with intellectual people is that they are too logical.

It's all about bantering and trolling people and giving off good emotions.

I have low energy for social events especially weddings and professional conventions. I'll give it my all for 1hr and then I'm looking for the exit. Would much rather have a small chill session with a couple of people drinking in a dingy bar than attending a swanky banquet at a 5 star resort. I guess working 60hr weeks don't help much either in the energy department.

Depends on what you mean by "lost cause". Do I have skills, capacity, and social intelligence to fit in with any social group? Absolutely I do. Do I *want * to fit in with just any random social group? Not a chance.

Social encounters have to pass the same cost-benefit analysis as any other investment decision. I will put in whatever social effort needed to get whatever return back I hope to attain. If I foresee poor odds of return, I invest (or rather not) accordingly. I can roughly estimate who's going to bring what social return (positive or negative) to the table, and move to increase or decrease contact accordingly.

I don't consider this anti-social either. I call it being selective. As an introvert with limited social fuel reserves, it's in my best interest to be selective and allocate wisely with whom to interact with, engage with, respond to, to obtain the most probable best social outcomes possible. I have to, not only is time finite, but the quality of life is too easily raised or lowered via these social engagements.

Should my end game be to maximize peace, love and happiness in this world to achieve highest quality of life (which it is), then it stands to reason I ensure my social investment decisions are driven with that end game in mind (which it is).

And yeah, I hear you on missing having a best friend. I miss it also.

Depends on what you mean by "lost cause". Do I have skills, capacity, and social intelligence to fit in with any social group? Absolutely I do. Do I *want * to fit in with just any random social group? Not a chance.

Social encounters have to pass the same cost-benefit analysis as any other investment decision. I will put in whatever social effort needed to get whatever return back I hope to attain. If I foresee poor odds of return, I invest (or rather not) accordingly. I can roughly estimate who's going to bring what social return (positive or negative) to the table, and move to increase or decrease contact accordingly.

I don't consider this anti-social either. I call it being selective. As an introvert with limited social fuel reserves, it's in my best interest to be selective and allocate wisely with whom to interact with, engage with, respond to, to obtain the most probable best social outcomes possible. I have to, not only is time finite, but the quality of life is too easily raised or lowered via these social engagements.

Should my end game be to maximize peace, love and happiness in this world to achieve highest quality of life (which it is), then it stands to reason I ensure my social investment decisions are driven with that end game in mind (which it is).

And yeah, I hear you on missing having a best friend. I miss it also.

Strong feels itt

most are just bounded by the constructed boundaries society

Im not even smart but yeah... the only semblance of a few engaging discussions i had would be with a hand full of class mates at university , but even then most are just bounded by the constructed boundaries of society so it was never meaning full.

I mostly just evade all discussions now, its mostly a big waste of time and it feels like im just talking to a program

edit especially now with this scamdemic... it really exposed 95% of the people out there as dumb cowards. Both pro and against are retarded. only smart opinionated people are here and a few on pol

Yeah that’s true. When I feel lonely and look around at all the people in groups then I envy them. But then when I actually look at those people in the group I realize I wouldn’t want to be around any of them lol.