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post 1626904563 12-29-2020, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By rhadam⏩
Hush now, adults are having a conversation.
I hate to concede, but you are the adult in the conversation.
post 1626904673 12-29-2020, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I mean, have you ever gone to a doctor and they put you through a battery of tests that wound up eliminating the original doctor's assumption? Did you think he was lying to you, maybe to get you to pay for expensive tests that were unnecessary or for some other nefarious reason?
I agree with your thought here, but where you’re wrong is that it was the studies that told us 80%+ spread was from asymptomatic spread. It wasn’t just
A hypothesis. These were backed by studies.

So to use your analogy, the doctor already went through his battery of tests on you and concluded A. And then 11 months later, he “does the tests again” and now concluded B, which is the total opposite of his first conclusion.


As a side note you’re also forgetting that the virus has been hijacked by politicians on all sides and became politicized, and turned into a political weapon. So you have to understand where people are coming from when they talk about being lied to.
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Originally Posted By Strawng⏩
Asymptomatic = / = presymptomatic. The virus is actually most contagious right before symptoms develop. Asymptomatic people never have any symptoms.
Very much this. It’s the two week incubation time that makes covid so hard to fight. In a normal non-lockdown week If I was contagious for like a week I can’t even imagine how many people I could infect without having any clue I had it.
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Originally Posted By rhadam⏩
Skepticism then. Paranoia, as defined psychologically, is likely destructive in these types of situations.
Agreed.
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post 1626905243 12-29-2020, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By ANTIFAStomper⏩
I hate to concede, but you are the adult in the conversation.
You've been here 4 days, son. Either stick to that story or get your Wingnut strat out and take your beating. Just make sure you tune it very carefully.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
post 1626905453 12-29-2020, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
I agree with your thought here, but where you’re wrong is that it was the studies that told us 80%+ spread was from asymptomatic spread. It wasn’t just
A hypothesis. These were backed by studies.

So to use your analogy, the doctor already went through his battery of tests on you and concluded A. And then 11 months later, he “does the tests again” and now concluded B, which is the total opposite of his first conclusion.


As a side note you’re also forgetting that the virus has been hijacked by politicians on all sides and became politicized, and turned into a political weapon. So you have to understand where people are coming from when they talk about being lied to.
So you're saying these studies were bogus studies?

For sure the virus was politicized and it's disgusting, but it's not surprising - everything is politicized. That doesn't mean I forgot about that.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
post 1626905693 12-29-2020, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
So you're saying these studies were bogus studies?

For sure the virus was politicized and it's disgusting, but it's not surprising - everything is politicized. That doesn't mean I forgot about that.
Nice deflection but Im not saying anything about the studies. I’m pointing out that the 80% wasn’t a hypothesis like you claim in your analogy, which is now wrong. It was a conclusion from a study. A conclusion that cost people freedoms and their jobs, and time with loved ones that they’ll never get back.

New studies are now saying something completely the opposite.

Do with it what you will.
post 1626906243 12-29-2020, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
Nice deflection but Im not saying anything about the studies. I’m pointing out that the 80% wasn’t a hypothesis like you claim in your analogy, which is now wrong. It was a conclusion from a study. A conclusion that cost people freedoms and their jobs, and time with loved ones that they’ll never get back.

New studies are now saying something completely the opposite.

Do with it what you will.
I'm not deflecting. Either the methods used to test were faulty but in good faith, or the tests were straight-up bogus. Which are you asserting is the case?

As for the hypothesis stuff, I'm talking about projections etc., before studies were conducted, fwiw.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
post 1626907063 12-29-2020, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I'm not deflecting. Either the methods used to test were faulty but in good faith, or the tests were straight-up bogus. Which are you asserting is the case?

As for the hypothesis stuff, I'm talking about projections etc., before studies were conducted, fwiw.
I’m not a doctor/scientist so I can’t judge. But you have two studies both saying the opposite of each other. Someone needs to look at it
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I've always said the truly asymptomatic spread had to be vastly overblown. It just never made any sense that such ridiculously high percentage of cases were caused by aysmptomatic spread. People probably need to spend sigificant time in the same indoor dwellings for most cases of asmptomatic spread to occur. I.e. not spending a couple hours at a bar or restaurant, but probably living with them.

This isn't the first time they've said this, either. I recall the medical authorities saying aysmptomatic spread appeared rare months ago. They had done numerous tests to detect viral loads being emitted by aysmptomatic people in testing rooms specifically designed to detect virus emission, yet they could barely ever detect enough that would infect someone else even in that setting.

But yeah, clearly, masks for asymtomatic cases are so effective... what bs lol. I've been telling for awhile now, just look at the very basic numbers, and you can see how full of bs they are. Lockdowns/restrictions have proven to do nothing to stop covid, but they do stop and destroy econonomies. Yet they keep doing it.
post 1626918003 12-29-2020, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
New studies report that only 17% of cases are caused from asymptomatic people. Past numbers exceeded 80% of all cases were caused from asymptomatic infected people.

https://news.yahoo.com/truth-coronav...023800679.html

I always felt the asymptomatic talk was more fear pron than anything else...
"Confirmed myth"
17% of spread

Pick one.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
"Confirmed myth"
17% of spread

Pick one.
It's certainly a myth that most cases are not contracted from asymptomatic people now isnt it? That was the reason it was so dangerous because all these perfectly healthy people were spreading it all over the place..
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Originally Posted By Strawng⏩
Asymptomatic = / = presymptomatic. The virus is actually most contagious right before symptoms develop. Asymptomatic people never have any symptoms.
Aware. Not a lot of asymptomatic people are getting tested for obvious reasons, and most infections are asymptomatic. It stands to reason a relatively small group of people are doing most of the spreading to others, before getting a positive test back. I know multiple nurses and PT/OTs that have caught the rona. No doubt they've been accidental super spreaders at work and out and about in the world. To an extent unavoidable, so no finger pointing. Just an observation.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
"Confirmed myth"
17% of spread

Pick one.
Do you not get it or are you just taking the piss?
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
"Confirmed myth"
17% of spread

Pick one.
83% of the time it's a myth 100% of the time.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
So were we lied to originally? Was the virus way WAY overhyped for a specific purpose?
You read not so good.
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I can see the mental gymnastics for regular people to assume their asymptomatic simply because when I had it, i would have shrugged it off and probably still gotten up gone to work etc, but instead due to all the hysteria I ended up noticing some mild symptoms i would have otherwise forgone as a bad night's sleep or a hangover or a cold/allergies something like that, but it turned out to be covid.

but for the scientists to be so off, well that just shows how much they wanted to use this as a scare tactic.
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I am super skeptical of this. My 84 year old grandma lives in an assisted living facility and she got COVID-19, she was asymptomatic. Had the virus not been in the facility there would have been no reason to test her and we would have never known she had it. I think the asymptomatic spread is far more widespread as people with no symptoms tend not to get tested, even if they were exposed
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Aware. Not a lot of asymptomatic people are getting tested for obvious reasons, and most infections are asymptomatic. It stands to reason a relatively small group of people are doing most of the spreading to others, before getting a positive test back. I know multiple nurses and PT/OTs that have caught the rona. No doubt they've been accidental super spreaders at work and out and about in the world. To an extent unavoidable, so no finger pointing. Just an observation.
Yup. The majority of the spread is from "superspreaders" who were pre-symptomatic. People who catch it and remain asymptomatic (presumably the majority) aren't spreading it and rarely are people with symptoms. You can't say your safe just because the people around you don't have symptoms.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
ITT, when new information is discovered about a NOVEL (i.e., new) virus, we think we were being lied to if the information doesn't match the assumptions originally put forth when very little was known about the virus.
lol, so we destroyed the economy and people lives over a knee jerk reaction then? Awesome...
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Makes sense. If you're asymptomatic you also don't have a high viral load to be shedding. If you're asymptomatic, you're not doing a lot of coughing or sneezing either.
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so it was confirmed *not* a myth?

cool story op, way to go man

myth

17%

pick one
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Sorry?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/us/co...rnd/index.html
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
lol, so we destroyed the economy and people lives over a knee jerk reaction then? Awesome...
Hindsight is 20/20, son. Should have worn your mask instead of being a dumbcel.
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z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"

Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
You've been here 4 days, son. Either stick to that story or get your Wingnut strat out and take your beating. Just make sure you tune it very carefully.
You get your jimmies rustled to easily.
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Anyway, the % being revised isn't new. Early in the pandemic people didn't know much about the virus. It's also still possible that 20% is driving the spread since obviously sick symptomatic ppl are less likely to go around spreading the thing and people are likely to avoid them.

The entire thing is a non sequitur and there is a reason this fuk went on tucker carlson. It's just being used to act like science is wrong and therefore jesus. Every fuking time. It never ends with you people.

Look retards, no amount of schizophrenic rationalizations change the reality that this virus is spreading and infecting ppl enmasse and that we need better restrictions on its spread. It doesn't matter if some scientists were wrong about something. If you think they are wrong about this simple fact, I encourage you to expose your elderly parents to covid.

I hope Tucker Carlson, Fox News, and the entire Republican party sucks a giant fuking dick.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It never ends with you people.


Ohhhh son...that's a whopper!
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
so it was confirmed *not* a myth?

cool story op, way to go man

myth

17%

pick one
I've already gone over this. Pay attention...
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
lol, so we destroyed the economy and people lives over a knee jerk reaction then? Awesome...
If it was this bad with restrictions, it would have been a lot worse without them dipchit.
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Here's the real question that I cannot get an answer to. If you contract Covid, quarantine for a said amount of time, are symptom free and test negative again (PCR) not that rapid test, can you contract Covid again or re-infect people?
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