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post 1642635333 07-11-2021, 05:07 PM
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Interesting responses in this thread.

I think I'll just tell him I don't want to talk about it.
Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70
Oh look, another "let's knock Christianity and put all supposed Christians in the same category." Why is it predominantly Christianity people go after?
If you took the thread this way I feel sorry for you.
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post 1642635963 07-11-2021, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins
I went to a meet up this week and a guy was talking about Jesus healing everything and we don't need medicine. People believe in medicine but Jesus actually is doing the work.

Also some crazy 6,000 yr old earth stuff and moon landing was faked.

Just nod until they stop talking or engage?I would normally have engaged but older me figured it wasn't worth the effort.
Older you is correct. Just smile and nod.
Originally Posted By chaunce54
Tell them you're a pastafarian and introduce them to the spaghetti monster and try to convert them.
But this is lolsier.



IME there are non-crazy genuinely decent Christians. It was actually a Methodist couple that we used to socialize with who introduced me to pastafariansm. The wife is actually employed by the church.
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post 1642636313 07-11-2021, 05:28 PM
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I usually drop the Andromeda paradox and relativity of simultaneity on religious types and then transform it into a lecture, and they get angry and exit the conversation.
post 1642636413 07-11-2021, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins
I went to a meet up this week and a guy was talking about Jesus healing everything and we don't need medicine. People believe in medicine but Jesus actually is doing the work.

Also some crazy 6,000 yr old earth stuff and moon landing was faked.

Just nod until they stop talking or engage? I would normally have engaged but older me figured it wasn't worth the effort.
Stopped reading at "went to a meet"
Envisioned a Christian gay mens bicycle meet.
Buddy, just get up and fkin leave
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post 1642636443 07-11-2021, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
I usually drop the Andromeda paradox and relativity of simultaneity on religious types and then transform it into a lecture, and they get angry and exit the conversation.
You actually socialize with people outside your dad's basement? 🙄
post 1642636623 07-11-2021, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By 647584857
You actually socialize with people outside your dad's basement?
Not since covid...I guess I mean before...in fact, I haven't really talked to anyone irl outside of doctor's appointments, tutoring, or the grocery store in probably over a year now.
post 1642637233 07-11-2021, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Not since covid...I guess I mean before...in fact, I haven't really talked to anyone irl outside of doctor's appointments, tutoring, or the grocery store in probably over a year now.
post 1642638423 07-11-2021, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
Not since covid...I guess I mean before...in fact, I haven't really talked to anyone irl outside of doctor's appointments, tutoring, or the grocery store in probably over a year now.
And no one is surprised
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post 1642639683 07-11-2021, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70
Oh look, another "let's knock Christianity and put all supposed Christians in the same category." Why is it predominantly Christianity people go after?
Probably because he lives in a country where the dominant religious belief is Christianity?
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post 1642644583 07-11-2021, 08:05 PM
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He's probably someone you would prefer to avoid for a number of reasons you don't even know about, yet. Based on the extreme beliefs you've mentioned.

If he can't be avoided, then it might be best to find a different activity.
post 1642644803 07-11-2021, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic
Probably because he lives in a country where the dominant religious belief is Christianity?
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post 1642646003 07-11-2021, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
It’s generally the hypocrisy and the evangelism tbh
Is the hypocrisy and evangelism of Christianity so bad that it gets 99% of the negative criticism? It's that much worse than some of the issues every other major Religion has, is it?

Or maybe these leftist cowards who focus on Christianity only do it for virtue signaling points, knowing it's 'safe' to mock/criticize/attack Christianity?

Which makes more sense?
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post 1642647443 07-11-2021, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic
Probably because he lives in a country where the dominant religious belief is Christianity?
Imagine if he made a thread knocking Islam in an Islamic country. What would be the consequence then?
post 1642647583 07-11-2021, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Is the hypocrisy and evangelism of Christianity so bad that it gets 99% of the negative criticism? It's that much worse than some of the issues every other major Religion has, is it?

Or maybe these leftist cowards who focus on Christianity only do it for virtue signaling points, knowing it's 'safe' to mock/criticize/attack Christianity?

Which makes more sense?
I think part of it is that they’re so ignorant to other religions and don’t understand those religions beliefs, so it’s easier for them to mock and go full Dunning-Kruger with Christianity.
post 1642647953 07-11-2021, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d
maybe you should listen to what he has to say and stop thinking you know everything
This srs? That the earth is 6k years old, moon landing was faked, and that medicine doesnt work without Jesus? (well sounds like a typical thread on the misc, smh)

If I start rambling about how 16 is an odd number or that spiders are larger than lions, and you didnt care to give me the time of day, this would have anything to do with you thinking you know everything exactly how?
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post 1642648713 07-11-2021, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
I think part of it is that they’re so ignorant to other religions and don’t understand those religions beliefs, so it’s easier for them to mock and go full Dunning-Kruger with Christianity.
Maybe.

But I also think that [like often happens] Christianity gets stereotyped according to the most vocal, most unusual, and least principled examples.

- big name TV preachers raking in money
- Evangelicals being politically active and attempting to force their mores on the general public
- scandals involving people who profess themselves to be Christian

I've known some people who identify as Christian, but don't act that way. In the US there still seems to be some who hold to the idea that if you suffer some negative experience then you must have done something to deserve it/you are being punished by god. Met plenty who put on their Christianity at the front door of the church and then take it off when they leave.

That said there really still are good Christian people out there and I've found them too. There are still some who are "walking the walk" and usually they aren't trying to preach at you with words.

If you haven't been in the church yourself then you really just hear about the negative examples on the news.

This charity started with one woman setting out to serve her community. And she is a gem. Have met her a time or two and volunteered.

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post 1642650423 07-11-2021, 10:11 PM
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Why do I get the feeling OP's story never even happened? I mean how dumb do you have to be to not know how to handle the situation? Cool story bro...
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post 1642656893 07-12-2021, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Heard your lockdown was extended? Worthless Bootlicking Bitch.
You follow me around the forums like an obsessed teenage girl. For the last time, I'm not going to fck you.
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Originally Posted By wincel
I usually drop the Andromeda paradox and relativity of simultaneity on religious types and then transform it into a lecture, and they get angry and exit the conversation.
How would the relativity of simultaneity cast doubt on a religious belief?


I do believe there are Christian scholars who have dealt with that length, assuming it is meant to cast doubt on the doctrine of creation.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
How would the relativity of simultaneity cast doubt on a religious belief?


I do believe there are Christian scholars who have dealt with that length, assuming it is meant to cast doubt on the doctrine of creation.
Because if you have free will, and you pray for god to change your future, he must also change another observer's past. Also, when God encounters two prayers at different points in space and time, he cannot objectively determine which occurred first. To put it bluntly, it illustrates that God can't have any sort of objective timeline and therefore cannot react in your present to your prayer in the way Christians think. Your present is not a universal present. Your future already happened for another observer. The entire universe already exists in 4d. This also implies free will is only an illusion.

The only way you can rescue this is if you take a solipsist view that you are the only observer really. And that isn't a particularly encouraging thought either.
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic
You follow me around the forums like an obsessed teenage girl. For the last time, I'm not going to fck you.
Just how bad is it over there?
post 1642669263 07-12-2021, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
I think part of it is that they’re so ignorant to other religions and don’t understand those religions beliefs, so it’s easier for them to mock and go full Dunning-Kruger with Christianity.
They're not, though.

I do not personally have a major beef with Islam, I respect many of the posters here who practice that Religion, but I also recognize that Religion has a big problem with extremism and fundamentalism, problems that have people regularly being slaughtered on a daily basis. Not looked down on, not with Muslims being smug about being better Muslims than others, not with Muslims thinking they're better than others, but with them murdering people a lot.

I don't want to chit on them, because it's not all Muslims, but there are many who are, there are others who are overly sympathetic to that cause and such and at the end of the day, it's x1,000,000 worse than even the most disgusting WBC protest from loony fundamentalist Christians putting up hateful signs.

Yet, Christianity gets a good 99 out of 100 of the criticism, despite being far less -- and it's because people like the OP probably are too cowardly to take on 'protected' minorities like Muslims.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Now do Islam.
OK. There's absolutely no historical evidence that Jebus even existed.

On the other hand, we know Muhammad really existed.


Jebus is like Santa Claus for adults.


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Originally Posted By EctoCanuck
OK. There's absolutely no historical evidence that Jebus even existed.

On the other hand, we know Muhammad really existed.


Jebus is like Santa Claus for adults.


True but we also have reason to believe Mohammed smashed a 9 yr old when he was like 50 or something. That's beyond Dan "Get in the van" Schneider levels of degenmaxxing.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
I don't want to chit on them, because it's not all Muslims, but there are many who are, there are others who are overly sympathetic to that cause and such and at the end of the day, it's x1,000,000 worse than even the most disgusting WBC protest from loony fundamentalist Christians putting up hateful signs.
To be fair, the Westboro Baptist Church is about 99% lawyer and 1% religious. They know what they are doing and cash in anytime someone touches them or interferes with their legal right to pretend to be religiously upset.
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I can't decide if this is a real question and OP is autistic or if OP just invented this story to mock Christians.
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Just ignore it. He isn't hurting anyone.
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