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post 1645575313 08-23-2021, 06:03 PM
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To be honest, if a potential employer ever asked me for a list of ex girlfriends I would definitely just tell them I'm an incel
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post 1645575473 08-23-2021, 06:06 PM
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If you're being SRS they are using manipulation to ascertain your psychological profile.

You ask somebody a question and see their reaction.

So you'd either have to be a really good liar or not have anything 'weird' about you which makes you defensive.
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post 1645576023 08-23-2021, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
Srsly? I had no idea this was even a real thing. That’s why police are so chitty I guess. Instead of digging into someone’s temperament or other qualities to do with the job they want to know about your love life. What a joke. I’m no defund the police ****gg but they need ska srs rehaul in most depts.
They are being forced to. Right now most police departments are literally between 50-70% staffing and getting **** for applicants. The whole BLM/defund the police movement has made the vast majority of police dislike the career and only stick with it for a paycheck now.

Its funny because my whole point of warning people to STOP the defund the police thing was because of secondary consequences which would be even worse applicants and worse hires, the real solution was more funding for better training and better pay.

But here we are, with GED level applicants with minor criminal records and no work experience applying to be police officers now.

Most police who could retire did this year, there were record retirement rates tenfold.
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post 1645576133 08-23-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
If you're being SRS they are using manipulation to ascertain your psychological profile.

You ask somebody a question and see their reaction.

So you'd either have to be a really good liar or not have anything 'weird' about you which makes you defensive.
Some may but they actually call and interview the ex's. I know plenty of people who work for the department including one who was an investigator and now a member of the recruiting department so i know he does background investigations and they definitely do call and ask hard questions to every ex. I.E. has john smith ever smokes marijuana or done drugs to your knowledge, has he ever stolen anything, did he ever get physical with you or make any threats, did he ever get into any physical altercations with anyone, is there any reason we should find him untrustworthy, etc...
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Do they do this with female candidates?
if not say your trans and give them bertie
post 1645579093 08-23-2021, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By helpmee
Police officers tend to be domestic abusers so they try to weed out people from the start
It makes the department look bad/cost them money (tax payer)
Police don't really show any higher rates of domestic violence than the general population. Common misconception based on one stupid study from the 90's (where getting yelled at counted as domestic violence).
Originally Posted By Jestbrah
I am not worried about what they will say i just dont think its at all appropriate because most people set up boundaries with their ex's and go no contact. I am not going to force another person who doesn't want to think about me to rehash old times with a stranger police officer over the phone.

The fact that a police department cant see how thats crossing lines just to try and dig up dirt on candidates is enough for me to not want to work for a department like that. If they are willing to go to those links just to vet employees then they are going to be terrible with how they treat their employees.
It's one of the biggest disqualifies of applicants.... it shows if people lose their cool and abuse their significant others. If you're a normal adult you shouldn't have a problem with someone calling up an ex making sure you're not hiding anything or didn't beat them. Of course there's ex's that will lie and say all sorts of chit, that's normal. If it's one ex, probably not too big of a deal. If you provided 3 names and all of them say similar chit, yeah probably shouldn't be a cop.
Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
Srsly? I had no idea this was even a real thing. That’s why police are so chitty I guess. Instead of digging into someone’s temperament or other qualities to do with the job they want to know about your love life. What a joke. I’m no defund the police ****gg but they need ska srs rehaul in most depts.
Are domestic issues not related to temperament? It's not about looking into your love life it's about looking into your behavior in general. We also have to take a ton of psych tests and interview with a shrink, it's normally an entire day of psych testing, then waiting a few days to see if you "passed". The shrink will type up a report and send it to the Chief or whoever to approve/deny you.
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Originally Posted By helpmee
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Yeah..
Red flag is no relationships for like ten years
Another is we broke up because he is violent or abusive
Something that may not matter is we broke up because he fawked my friend

The main thing that they are trying to prevent is this coming up in the future
If they hire a serial abuser and something happens the past always comes up
liability

Now you can have a crazy ex. Who doesn't?
But say you have a couple crazy exes. That shows poor judgement /risk assessment

Yeah its a little bit far but what they have done before in the hiring process clearly was not working
i kind of see the benefit in the indirect way... like... lets follow up and see if he's lying

BUT i still don't think its efficient at all given what we can even see people in here saying. you might know that an applicant is lying but you don't know what they're lying about

maybe you're on bad terms with one, maybe you guys agreed not to contact each other, maybe she has a life and you dont want her bothered, etc., etc. - all reasons a singular answer could branch off of
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
Some may but they actually call and interview the ex's. I know plenty of people who work for the department including one who was an investigator and now a member of the recruiting department so i know he does background investigations and they definitely do call and ask hard questions to every ex. I.E. has john smith ever smokes marijuana or done drugs to your knowledge, has he ever stolen anything, did he ever get physical with you or make any threats, did he ever get into any physical altercations with anyone, is there any reason we should find him untrustworthy, etc...
I can see how this might be beneficial to the PD if used as a deterrent and filtering system - still though i'd think that the PD tends to attract certain personality types anyway, so not sure how effective it is.
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post 1645579853 08-23-2021, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan
It's one of the biggest disqualifies of applicants.... it shows if people lose their cool and abuse their significant others. If you're a normal adult you shouldn't have a problem with someone calling up an ex making sure you're not hiding anything or didn't beat them. Of course there's ex's that will lie and say all sorts of chit, that's normal. If it's one ex, probably not too big of a deal. If you provided 3 names and all of them say similar chit, yeah probably shouldn't be a cop.


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I really honestly dont care what my ex's would say im sure theres 0 red flags. But I just have a strong belief in boundaries and setting them for my work life and home life and this one crosses one without question and not only for me but for ex's who I respect not wanting to tell a random police officer on the phone about our history.

If this was for like state CID or federal law enforcement or military clearance thats one thing, but local PD's making 60k a year, its a bit excessive.

If a job has this little regard for your personal life just so they can feel better, then they are going to be the same way about other issues that may come up like forcing you to work a bunch of overtime you dont want to or being completely unreasonable if something happens and throw you under the buss immediately.
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post 1645580343 08-23-2021, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
I really honestly dont care what my ex's would say im sure theres 0 red flags. But I just have a strong belief in boundaries and setting them for my work life and home life and this one crosses one without question and not only for me but for ex's who I respect not wanting to tell a random police officer on the phone about our history.

If this was for like state CID or federal law enforcement or military clearance thats one thing, but local PD's making 60k a year, its a bit excessive.
If you want concrete boundaries between work and home life, policing just isn't for you. It's not a bad thing, it's just the way it is. I believe in a strong separation between work and home life too, but you have to realize there's going to be some bleed over. Pretending there won't be any is foolish. It's not like these investigators are asking about your past love life, its basically "Any reason you think AgRyan shouldn't be a cop? Did he ever abuse you?" and that's mostly it, maybe another question or two but they're aware calling ex's is weird.

And then you have the other side that constantly complains about how PDs are hiring people who have XYZ history... Some people want more background checks/requirements, some people want less... Can't please everyone.

Also the places doing full background checks like this are probably paying more than $60k. Generally cops will have access to more personal data and be able to ruin more lives via their "clearance" than people in the military with a secret clearance as well.
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post 1645581023 08-23-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan
If you want concrete boundaries between work and home life, policing just isn't for you. It's not a bad thing, it's just the way it is. I believe in a strong separation between work and home life too, but you have to realize there's going to be some bleed over. Pretending there won't be any is foolish. It's not like these investigators are asking about your past love life, its basically "Any reason you think AgRyan shouldn't be a cop? Did he ever abuse you?" and that's mostly it, maybe another question or two but they're aware calling ex's is weird.

And then you have the other side that constantly complains about how PDs are hiring people who have XYZ history... Some people want more background checks/requirements, some people want less... Can't please everyone.

Also the places doing full background checks like this are probably paying more than $60k. Generally cops will have access to more personal data and be able to ruin more lives via their "clearance" than people in the military with a secret clearance as well.
Well I didnt specify which level of military clearance I would say this level of background would be worth doing.

And 60k depends on the place, in Texas that is decent pay, in New york or California thats podunk population of 2000 pay.

Obviously I get the bleed over I am about to hit my 10 year mark, but I also switched after 6 years from municipal to where I am now because I was sick and tired of surprise 15 hour shifts with 1 hour commuting and surprise spending the night at the police department for a week events and surprise investigations lieutenant going through your lunch back and all the zippers without consent and asking you questions about everything inside.

Like I said thats why I avoid departments now that show red flags of treating employees a certain way. Especially with how policing is in 2021, if the department doesnt have my back then just lol because the public sure doesnt and the city politicians sure dont.
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post 1645581133 08-23-2021, 07:52 PM
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not sure if this thread is srs or not
but with the kind of stuff thats going on nowadays.. I wouldnt be surprised
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LOL OP just lol

Female police officers and trainees are known to be MAJOR Sloots and will do Crazy chit in bed. Most guys think it’s the best Part of the PO Training and Love it.

I bet that female officer already told everyone that you didn’t have a real girlfriend. Incels aren’t popular and the won’t get much female attention


You’re fuked OP you’re the one gonna get coffee while others bang all sorts of hot fit chicks
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wait whats the issue here?
so they ask you about your past relationships, well then just tell them the truth and answer that you havent had any, whats the problem? I dont get it
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Originally Posted By helpmee
They interview family, friends, exes, past employers, etc (in person most of the time)

Police officers tend to be domestic abusers so they try to weed out people from the start
It makes the department look bad/cost them money (tax payer)

They even go to your house and see how you live. Like they meet you in your house/apartment and just talk a little to see if you live in a crack house/unstable place

(I interviewed and got an offer but ended up rejecting the offer)
Imagine going through all this and having your entire life closely scrutinized, to become a police offer where you get average pay and have a massive risk of being hung out to dry by the leftie mob for doing your job. No wonder they are under staffed, they aren't really in a position to be asking this of candidates if they still want to have a police force in 10 years.

Just LOL.
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Id be pissed if of my wife’s ex’s put this down and I’m sure my ex’s husbands would be as well.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
i refused to submit an application to a city because of this.

That is way too personal and its completely crossing a boundary of not only me but my ex's for a potential employer to call them up and ask them questions about me. That is extremely unethical and I don't want to work at a police department that operates that way.

They wanted you to list all past relationships in the past 10 years and provide their phone number and link to their social media if available.
Same when I applied. There was a 20 page packet that I filled out that asked questions like “have you ever been around anyone that was using illegal drugs” and “have you ever witnessed a felony level crime that you did not report” like breh, what does it matter what I’ve seen OTHER people do?


There were also those questions about relationships, ex girlfriends etc and it’s just way too personal and has no bearing on the job. Then they hire a bunch of soyboys; or sociopaths who are actual criminals but have no problem passing a poly, and complain that “it’s hard to find good cops” No it’s not, you just don’t know what you are doing.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
i refused to submit an application to a city because of this.

That is way too personal and its completely crossing a boundary of not only me but my ex's for a potential employer to call them up and ask them questions about me. That is extremely unethical and I don't want to work at a police department that operates that way.

They wanted you to list all past relationships in the past 10 years and provide their phone number and link to their social media if available.
It makes 0 sense to me. Lot’s of relationships end on bad terms. How are you supposed to get an accurate picture of a persons character this way?
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
I really honestly dont care what my ex's would say im sure theres 0 red flags. But I just have a strong belief in boundaries and setting them for my work life and home life and this one crosses one without question and not only for me but for ex's who I respect not wanting to tell a random police officer on the phone about our history.

If this was for like state CID or federal law enforcement or military clearance thats one thing, but local PD's making 60k a year, its a bit excessive.

If a job has this little regard for your personal life just so they can feel better, then they are going to be the same way about other issues that may come up like forcing you to work a bunch of overtime you dont want to or being completely unreasonable if something happens and throw you under the buss immediately.
Not everybody has exs like that

If that relationship ended badly she may lie her ass off and say you do drugs and beat her just to prevent u from getting in
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yes, I'm sure an ex-girlfriend will be an excellent and unbiased reference for these PDs to contact, JFL
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse
Basically had an interview for a police position and was getting interviewed by a chad and a police woman and they asked me this. I was caught completely offguard. I said no history except 1 in highschool and the girl started laughing and my face went red.This memory keeps attacking me at night. I dunno if i'll get the next interview now.
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post 1645622563 08-24-2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
That’s pretty standard. NJ corrections wanted access to your social media and the ability to log in if they wanted to do so
****ing nuts bro

although i looked up my local county jails co salaries and some are clearing 110k+ not a bad gig if youre willing to undergo that invasion of privacy
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post 1645622923 08-24-2021, 12:20 PM
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Just tell them to f themselves, get a federal Leo job, and collect your $100k+ salary and 20 year retirement.
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