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post 1646996013 09-14-2021, 06:54 AM
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So, Duke tested 15k and found 364 cases of Covid for a positivety rate of 1.59%.

What's the issue here?


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...253851373.html
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post 1646996603 09-14-2021, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So, Duke tested 15k and found 364 cases of Covid for a positivety rate of 1.59%.

What's the issue here?


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...253851373.html
The issue, as stated in the article is “this surge is placing significant stress on the people, systems and facilities that are dedicated to protecting our health, safety and the ability of Duke to fulfill its educational mission, particularly our isolation space for on-campus students who test positive.”
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post 1646996963 09-14-2021, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/w...infection.html

The coronavirus vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech are proving highly effective at preventing symptomatic and asymptomatic infections under real-world conditions, federal health researchers reported on Monday.

Consistent with clinical trial data, a two-dose regimen prevented 90 percent of infections by two weeks after the second shot. One dose prevented 80 percent of infections by two weeks after vaccination.


Scientists have debated whether vaccinated people may still get asymptomatic infections and transmit the virus to others. The new study, by researchers at the C.D.C., suggested that since infections were so rare, transmission was likely rare, too.

There also has been concern that variants may render the vaccines less effective. The study’s results do not confirm that fear. Troubling variants were circulating during the time of the study — from Dec. 14, 2020, to March 13, 2021 — yet the vaccines still provided powerful protection.
This article is from March... before Delta. The numbers are irrelevant.
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post 1646997183 09-14-2021, 07:17 AM
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b-b-bbbut we've always know the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it and passing it on! it just stops the chances of becoming seriously ill from it!

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post 1646997513 09-14-2021, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So, Duke tested 15k and found 364 cases of Covid for a positivety rate of 1.59%.

What's the issue here?


https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...253851373.html
Suddenly rates of infection matter? Next you're going to be telling me it only kills old people and those with pre-existing conditions like any Nazi would!
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Originally Posted By Jhalf⏩
The way I see things is that the vaccines were really effective against the alpha variant in trials, and due to this, were rushed to emergency approval. Because they hadn't had time to test with different variations of the disease, as soon as they realized it wasn't as effective against delta (etc), they shift the narrative that the vaccines help against the worst symptoms/death.
That may be true. But it wasn't even 2 months ago that Biden was saying that if you were vaxed you couldn't get COVID. Delta was already widespread at that point.
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Originally Posted By BuckNakedinBama⏩
This article is from March... before Delta. The numbers are irrelevant.
The point is that the goalposts constantly move. Also, the report made it a point to mention that variants were circulating at that time and that the vaccines still proved effective. Now the goalpost is boosters, but if the problem is due to variants and not “weakening effectiveness” then boosters won’t help because they are using the same spike proteins.
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Link? And what is the overall vaccinated rate?

If 98% are vaccinated, one would expect almost all cases to be from those that are vaxxed.



Edit - 98% are indeed vaxxed.

Why tf are miscers who are too stupid to understand basic ratio math, convinced they are smart enough to unravel global conspiracies on ******** and YouTube??
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
b-b-bbbut we've always know the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it and passing it on! it just stops the chances of becoming seriously ill from it!

coping redditors are the worst
The narrative has changed yet again. Now it is back to being about freeing up hospital resources.

For example from my local news:https://www.newson6.com/story/614066...ge-family-says
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I thought vaccines were supposed to end the pandemic though, especially if 98% are vaxxed?
A 1% positivity rate doesn't disprove vax work.


Also, vaccines in general do not work if only 50% of population gets them.
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post 1646998743 09-14-2021, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
The issue, as stated in the article is “this surge is placing significant stress on the people, systems and facilities that are dedicated to protecting our health, safety and the ability of Duke to fulfill its educational mission, particularly our isolation space for on-campus students who test positive.”
What's the response to the "outbreak" have to do with the vaccine? The vaccine is working as advertised. Even better actually with that low an infection rate.
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post 1646998853 09-14-2021, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I thought vaccines were supposed to end the pandemic though, especially if 98% are vaxxed?
lmfao. If the entire country was vaxxed and had a positiveiy rate of 1% with 0% being hospitalized it would end the pandemic you potato.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
What's the response to the "outbreak" have to do with the vaccine? The vaccine is working as advertised. Even better actually with that low an infection rate.
Israel kind of seems to suggest otherwise...
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Originally Posted By steeler505⏩
Imagine getting coerced into taking an experimental vaccine so you can live a normal life...

Then catch corona anyway, can't walk anywhere on campus without a mask, mandatory testing.

Covid vaccine mandates are the biggest scam perpetrated on the humans in world history.
Especially when it was repeated ad nauseam that we needed to get vaccinated to "go back to normal" yet another lie
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So 357 fully vaxxed students still got the coof at a university that is damn near 100% fully vaccinated?

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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Israel kind of seems to suggest otherwise...
You boyos keep bringing up some non-peer reviewed or published Israel study. The Duke case is a real world example. How about the lack of vax folks in the hospitals or who've died of covid.

Why do y'all not want the vax to work? I DGAF if you don't want to get it but why the push to discredit it?
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Especially when it was repeated ad nauseam that we needed to get vaccinated to "go back to normal" yet another lie
How can you possibly know its a lie when 50% of people didn't get vaxxed?
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin⏩
So 357 fully vaxxed students still got the coof at a university that is damn near 100% fully vaccinated?

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lmfao. Out of 15k. The vaxes were said to be 95% effective. So they're even better!
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meh, it's a clickbait video of a guy doing bro-math, not an actual article stating that large percentage of those infected was vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lmfao. Out of 15k. The vaxes were said to be 95% effective. So they're even better!
You have to normalize this occurrence versus a population that isn't vaccinated, of the same demographic....under 25.
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Originally Posted By WWE-TicK⏩
I thought the vaccine was never meant to keep you from getting COVID, but rather make the symptoms less severe?
That's the revised message in the last 2 months. They were supposed to stop almost everyone from catching the virus in the first place, and even if you were one of the rare people that still got infected, it was supposed to be nearly impossible for you to infect others afterward. Everyone will get the virus. Calling them vaccines at this point is over generous. The first 2 shots are immune boosters, just as the 3rd. They're still very useful, especially for old people, but time to be realistic.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
You have to normalize this occurrence versus a population that isn't vaccinated, of the same demographic....under 25.
Agree. But 2% positively rate is certainly not a reason to say the vax doesn’t work like so many miscers did. If anything it likely supports the vax efficacy.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lmfao. Out of 15k. The vaxes were said to be 95% effective. So they're even better!
If only 450 students were exposed to COVID, and 357 of them got it...is that still 95% Einstein? LOL what and idiot....15,000 of them weren't exposed. You don't count number of vaxxed against number infected....you count number EXPOSED against number infected.

Holy fukk, you are even dumber than I thought....and I didn't think that was possible.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
How can you possibly know its a lie when 50% of people didn't get vaxxed?
How can you possibly know its true when 50% of people didn't get vaxxed?
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Link? And what is the overall vaccinated rate?

If 98% are vaccinated, one would expect almost all cases to be from those that are vaxxed.



Edit - 98% are indeed vaxxed.
or if the "vaccine" actually performed as real vaccines are supposed to, you would not have massive chunks of vaccinated people getting infected. those used to be called vaccine failures, by the way. just change the name and don't worry about it though, right?


lol hurrr durrrrr
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
If only 450 students were exposed to COVID, and 357 of them got it...is that still 95% Einstein? LOL what and idiot....15,000 of them weren't exposed. You don't count number of vaxxed against number infected....you count number EXPOSED against number infected.

Holy fukk, you are even dumber than I thought....and I didn't think that was possible.
you could save yourself a lot of frustration if you remember that libtards have virtually zero ability to reason through fairly simple situations and to back up a point with facts and logic. they don't take principled stances....they take an emotional stance. which is why you'll see them regularly getting btfo in their own threads over and over and over lol.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Agree. But 2% positively rate is certainly not a reason to say the vax doesn’t work like so many miscers did. If anything it likely supports the vax efficacy.
Do you even math?

Of the total positive cases, 98% were vaxxed.

Of the total student population, 98% were vaxxed.

The percentage of vaxxed students that tested positive was equal to the vaxxed population.

If the vax was effective at preventing infection, the 2% of unvaxxed should have been significantly over-represented in the positive cases.

This categorically shows a lack of effectiveness of the vax at preventing infection.
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