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This. Do these dumbasses think we live in a bubble? Uh, we can see how other countries are faring, hopefully this chit is our cow pox moment and spreads FAR and WIDE.

Everyone I know, and I mean EVERYONE is sick right now. Cold symptoms, not feeling well overall, sniffles, cough, headache etc., and legit only ONE person is staying at home because she's not feeling well.

The rest of us? We are legit out and about in town, family gatherings. My wife has the virus right now, so I assume I do too. Zero fs given. We are sick and tired of the panic and alarms, the outright lies by everyone with a vested interested in the virus. We are living our best life. My wife and our family have attended four, count them FOUR functions in the last six days. I'm in bus church right now and we have three other adult workers not feeling well and several of the kids complaining about it too. Guess what? Still trucking along. I had the virus this time last year. It sucked but have been sicker for sure. We will find out just how deadly it is and when NO ONE I know ends up in the hospital, you leftists and power grabbers can take a long walk on a short pier.

Lmao @ OP

Opinions stated as facts should be accompanied by support. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

And how do you reconcile the "facts" when other articles refute those facts? Trust the science?

Totally agree

I have covid right now and feel better than ever

Yet I’m sitting in my condo isolating for the next 10-14 days and possibly not going home for Christmas

It’s a joke

Share the articles, lets compare and discuss.

I posted the tables from the article (i.e., all of the numbers) because it seems it's not loading for people. The link should take you directly to a PDF of the study report.

Study this dick, ****ot

I couldn't care less about the disparity between the two sets of facts. I'm going to keep on living my life. I've had the virus once over Christmas last year. I don't feel that hot right now but I have been waaaay sicker. I'm at church this morning. Everyone here is sick. We are also sick of the hysteria. It's been two years. All this theater is just that, theater. I couldn't care less about who thinks what. We are going to do us. I suggest everyone else do the same.

Wearing masks still is stupid. Threatening lockdowns is stupid. Making me show paperwork proving my vax status is stupid. It's going to get to the point, SUPER SOON, where bullets will start flying if they keep going down this slope. Screw y'all JeCovid Witnesses.

I can try to pm you a copy of the pdf.

"We find strong evidence of immune evasion, both from natural infection, where the risk of reinfection is 5.41 (95% CI: 4.87-6.00) fold higher for Omicron than for Delta, and from vaccine-induced protection. Our VE estimates largely agree with those from UKHSA’s TNCC study (11) and predictions from predicting VE from neutralising antibody titres (4,14), suggestingvery limited remaining protection against symptomatic infection afforded by two doses of AZ, low protection afforded by two doses of Pfizer, but moderate to high (55-80%) protection in people boosted with an mRNA vaccine."

"Our estimate of the hazard ratio for reinfection relative to Delta also supports previous analysis of reinfection risk in South Africa (15). Prior to Omicron, the SIREN cohort study of UK healthcare workers estimated that SARS-CoV-2 infection gave 85% protection against reinfection over 6 months (16), ora relative risk of infection of 0.15 compared with those with no prior infection. Our hazard ratio estimate would suggestthe relative risk of reinfection has risen to 0.81 [95%CI: 0.73-1.00](i.e. remaining protection of 19% [95%CI: 0-27%]) against Omicron."

"We find no evidence (for both risk of hospitalisation attendance and symptom status) of Omicron having different severity from Delta, though data on hospitalisations are still very limited."

No one cares

I find it odd how rapidly discussion shifts away from the topic. This study isn't about mandates, masks, lockdowns, or any other political actions. It's just a comparison of Omicron and Delta based on recent data.

I don't see why posting a study published a couple of days ago incites name calling and posts that have nothing to do with the topic.

The first author is from MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis, Jameel Institute, Imperial College London

The full citation is:
Neil Ferguson, Azra Ghani, Anne Cori et al. Growth, population distribution and immune escape of the Omicron in England. Imperial College London (16-12-2021), doi:https://doi.org/10.25561/93038.

That's how research works.

Because the topic is the virus, yes? If so, and I have a decent reading comprehension skill, then nothing I have said is off topic. The study that you're citing is going to be used to justify the continuation of everything I just mentioned. I can, however, appreciate that you're not being abrasive. I'm not, either.

It's not odd, it's very easy to see why; nobody believes this trash anymore because of how much they lied to us in the past.

So, you're saying its 5x more likely to mutate into a milder strain in order to survive. Mother nature says class dismissed.

Lol

lol @ Neil Ferguson,

that dude has literally been wrong about everything when it comes to covid-19

"We found a significant increased risk of an Omicron case compared to Delta for those with vaccine status:

AZ 2+weeks post-dose 2 (PD2) 1.86 (95%CI: 1.67-2.08),

Pfizer 2+w PD2 2.68 (95%CI: 2.54-2.83),

AZ 2+w post-dose 3 (PD3) 4.32 (95%CI: 3.84-4.85)

PF 2+w PD3 4.07 (95%CI: 3.66-4.51)PD3 states are categorised by the dose 1/2 vaccine used). Depending on the Delta VE estimates used (10),

These estimates translate into Omicron VE estimates of between0% and 20% PD2and between55% and 80% PD3against Omicron,

consistent with other estimates (11). Similar estimates were obtained using genotype data, albeit with greater uncertainty."

Does that help?

You're a god damn loser. Why do you feel good about possibly spreading the virus to those who are high risk? And before you say, "high risk should stay home!". The high risk have to live life too. There are over 10m 65+ still working, not to mention those with health issues (cancer, immunocompromised, etc..) who just have to go about life and do things like go to the grocery store.


People like you are the scum of society. You're a pathetic person who honestly deserves horrible things to happen to them and I never thought I'd say that.


Funny how you're religious and yet practice none of the core beliefs. If there is a hell, you're burning in it.

They don't ignore South Africa. They compare directly:

"These estimates are consistent or even faster than doubling times reported from South Africa (13)"

"Our estimate of the hazard ratio for reinfection relative to Delta also supports previous analysis of reinfection risk in South Africa (15)"

"The growth rates estimated for Omicron translate into doubling times of under 2.5 days, even allowing for the potentially slowing of growth up to 11 th December. These estimates are consistent or even faster than doubling times reported from South Africa (13)"

The references for the South Africa papers:

13. Grabowski F, Kochańczyk M, Lipniacki T. Omicron strain spreads with the doubling time of 3.2—3.6 days in South Africa province of Gauteng that achieved herd immunity to Delta variant. medRxiv [Internet]. 2021 Dec 9 [cited 2021 Dec 15];2021.12.08.21267494. Available
from:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....08.21267494v1

15. Pulliam JRC, Schalkwyk C van, Govender N, Gottberg A von, Cohen C, Groome MJ, et al. Increased risk of SARS-CoV-2 reinfection associated with emergence of the Omicron variant in South Africa. medRxiv [Internet]. 2021 Dec 2 [cited 2021 Dec 15];2021.11.11.21266068.
Available from:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.21266068v2

Did not read past first sentence. Going to continue to live my life NOT in fear. I suggest you and your boyfriend do the same.

Weird, I don't see any name calling or personal attacks in your archive.

It seems incorrect to average the PD2 and PD3 estimates to create a single number, no?

That's the thing, it seems this one escapes "natural" immunity from a previous infection as well.

I trust other countries more than I trust my own. I doubt covid is politicized in south Africa. Only thing to question is whoever said they said that.