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post 1654245833 01-13-2022, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
I don’t understand a Republican mindset either. I voted for Trump and lean center right, but allegiance to either party is retarded to me. Both are selling us out to the elites in back room deals.
i dont understand "lets give the rich tax breaks and prop them up" but "lets hate poor people" and then being a Christian,

Jesus was a socialist

the hypocrisy kills me
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
keep in mind I have voted since 2003 (George Bush).

I"m an observer.

Things I believe:

You shouldn't have to go bankrupt for healthcare
We have a first rate military but we are becoming a third world country
I believe in Covid
I'm vaccinated with a booster
I didn't like trump and dont like biden
saying "lets go brandon" tells me you have low iq points; not that i like biden it's just stupid
BlM riots were retarded ; january 6th riots were retarded
Employers should pay more, and pay a livable wage; unionize
1. Agree
2. It’s your fault for pissing of most of the world. Canada’s military is second class yet they are a way safer country.
3. Not sure what you mean. Of course it’s real just the fear mongering pushed by the media is not
4. That’s fine- should be a choice though and not mandated.
5. Reasonable
6. Yes they were
7. Yes they should
post 1654246023 01-13-2022, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
I think they are all friends honestly all well connected families.

I have no doubt trump was friends with some top democrats

I also think he played the part
I agree with this.
I loe e.
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Agree with this, but I bet we disagree on what needs to be done about healthcare bankruptcy, namely make catastrophic policies available, get rid of lots of red tape and regulations resulting in different requirements for different states, and ensure that people receiving care here are citizens - if not get them stable and deport them right to their home country.

Also people who abuse the system, like visiting the ER constantly for minor issues, should be charged with trespassing by the hospitals and have their tax 'refund' confiscated until their medical debts are paid.

Once this is done I'd have no problem with government sponsored insurances for the truly needy in society that are well run.
post 1654246333 01-13-2022, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Agree with this, but I bet we disagree on what needs to be done about healthcare bankruptcy, namely make catastrophic policies available, get rid of lots of red tape and regulations resulting in different requirements for different states, and ensure that people receiving care here are citizens - if not get them stable and deport them right to their home country.

Also people who abuse the system, like visiting the ER constantly for minor issues, should be charged with trespassing by the hospitals and have their tax 'refund' confiscated until their medical debts are paid.

Once this is done I'd have no problem with government sponsored insurances for the truly needy in society that are well run.
But it won't be done because there is too much money to be made...

Just lol if you think the government GAF about you.
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As a Canadian, my take on the republican mindset is this:





Freedom at all costs.


You know, like America as a whole used to be.
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
But it won't be done because there is too much money to be made...

Just lol if you think the government GAF about you.
Of course they don't and I don't need them to. I'm doing just fine over here.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Of course they don't and I don't need them to. I'm doing just fine over here.
I'm doing just fine too, but there are just so many idiots that think the government is there to help them for some reason...
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
i dont understand "lets give the rich tax breaks and prop them up" but "lets hate poor people" and then being a Christian,

Jesus was a socialist

the hypocrisy kills me
Do you understand the concept of a blanket tax break that gives everyone a certain percentage? When that happens, the media reports it as a tax cut for the rich because they get the most money back. Half of your stances could make you sound like you belong to either party, depending on how they phrase the question.

Could you come down from your high horse and please cite the bible verse in which Jesus took from the rich and gave to the poor. Because that is socialistic. Jesus asked for everyone to give, he didn't take it by force of law.
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Personally I don't believe it matters who is in charge, democrats or republicans. They are all greedy, dirty and could give two chits less about the American people other than collecting our tax dollars. We've seen just a tiny bit of the corruption that exists, just imagine all the shady stuff going on that we never hear about.

Like many other I believe the president and politicians are just puppets, with a large, wealthy and unknown group shaping the direction of the country for personal gain.
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
I am a Republican.
You can't have socialized medicine and have access to the best and most groundbreaking medicine in the world at the same time because the way the system works. Plus, tying non emergency healthcare to a job incentivizes people to work until they have enough wealth to self insure - (neets on suicide watch)
I believe COVID is real, but believe masks are just a political tool that doesn't work and pretends we are doing something.
I'm vaccinated with a booster.
I liked Trump's policies, and his candor, but hated his bravado and his lack of understanding when to shut up. Biden was a moderate Dem Senator that wasn't terrible, but he is absolutely a disaster governing.
Skipping all the social nonsense, because that is all noise and posturing that does not objectively measure policies.
Employers compete in the open market, which gives employees the opportunity to find the best paying job and advance. What happens when there is a shortage of workers like we have now? Employers are pushing up wages beyond the nonsensical arbitrary minimum wages people were screaming about decades ago, because they have to compete for good labor. Unions pervert the market. They are not the Norma Rae unions that made sense, they are just relics, and create issues and drive up costs for consumers.

But to answer your question, Republicans believe in limited (not zero) government, and subsequently low taxes and government intervention so that the individual can pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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Compare how blue states are run to red

Now look at the shape the country is in now compared to 2 years ago

All you need to know
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I do think health care costs should certainly be addressed, but I have no clue what a feasible solution(s) to that is. Any sort of "free" shyt (which anyone with common sense knows isn't actually free) is just a band aid over a bigger issue though.
I don't think there is a good solution. Universal healthcare in the US would be a disaster, because our govt is corrupt and inefficient at running anything at all. It would cost 10x what it should, and be 1/4 as helpful as it could be.

The only ways I can think to maybe get healthcare costs is to cap costs on things like other countries do. Basically "medication X can not cost more than Y" (and Y needs to be significantly less than what it currently is). Do the same thing of capping prices for medical procedures.

The other thing they should do with medication is make more medications over the counter. When I was in the Dominican Republic I could get a ton of stuff over the counter that I can't in the US. Amoxicillin was one of the ones I remember seeing at my resorts gift shop. If people can avoid the cost of doctors appointments and still get the same medication, why shouldn't they be able to?
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
keep in mind I have voted since 2003 (George Bush).

I"m an observer.

Things I believe:

You shouldn't have to go bankrupt for healthcare
We have a first rate military but we are becoming a third world country
I believe in Covid
I'm vaccinated with a booster
I didn't like trump and dont like biden
saying "lets go brandon" tells me you have low iq points; not that i like biden it's just stupid
BlM riots were retarded ; january 6th riots were retarded
Employers should pay more, and pay a livable wage; unionize
OP, why are you calling others low IQ ........


You said you would post your beliefs, but you did not. You posted some problems, but did not post the solution you advocate.


For example,
" You shouldn't have to go bankrupt for healthcare"


Okay? Everyone agrees on this? The issue is, what's your solution? Your beliefs are revealed when you talk about solutions. How can you not know this.


Since you're a liberal, I take it you think I should pay for your healthcare?
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
keep in mind I have voted since 2003 (George Bush).

I"m an observer.

Things I believe:

You shouldn't have to go bankrupt for healthcare
We have a first rate military but we are becoming a third world country
I believe in Covid
I'm vaccinated with a booster
I didn't like trump and dont like biden
saying "lets go brandon" tells me you have low iq points; not that i like biden it's just stupid
BlM riots were retarded ; january 6th riots were retarded
Employers should pay more, and pay a livable wage; unionize
A very reasonable list depending where you are.
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Originally Posted By JMath⏩
The only ways I can think to maybe get healthcare costs is to cap costs on things like other countries do. Basically "medication X can not cost more than Y" (and Y needs to be significantly less than what it currently is). Do the same thing of capping prices for medical procedures.
No, because the world depends on U.S. research and development for new drugs. The rest of the world is leeching off of us.

That's one of the problems. We should have a new global discussion to stop European countries and others from setting caps on their medications. It costs a lot of money to develop drugs, and right now Americans are the ones paying for it, while Germany gets to leech like a ****ing parasite, and benefit from our discoveries while Americans pay for the R&D bill and the Germans enjoy low cost meds because they blackmail the companies into cooperating.


We should force every country to pay their fair share. Europe and others, are essentially stealing from us, to prop up their "free healthcare"
Originally Posted By JMath⏩
The other thing they should do with medication is make more medications over the counter. When I was in the Dominican Republic I could get a ton of stuff over the counter that I can't in the US. Amoxicillin was one of the ones I remember seeing at my resorts gift shop. If people can avoid the cost of doctors appointments and still get the same medication, why shouldn't they be able to?
I partially agree with you here, but there is an argument that we can't have the entire world abusing antibiotics because then we will fall into a plague of antibiotic resistant strains of diseases, and kill us all.
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
You shouldn't have to go bankrupt for healthcare
Agreed. But what’s your solution? The entire healthcare industry is corrupt and a scam, but the US beats the world in numerous metrics. Our country getting healthier as a whole would reduce healthcare costs.
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
We have a first rate military but we are becoming a third world country
You’d have to elaborate on this. How are we becoming a third world country? I’m not a fan of the military industrial complex and I sure as hell don’t blindly support everything our military does.
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
I believe in Covid
So does 99.9999% of everyone else
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
I'm vaccinated with a booster
Good for you. Many republicans are, as well.
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
I didn't like trump and dont like biden
Trump was a better president without question, but there’s many things he did that I don’t like. Him being polarizing and hated is more the media’s fault for gaslighting 24/7 than Trumps. If you think Trump is just as bad as Biden, you’re an idiot (srs)
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
saying "lets go brandon" tells me you have low iq points; not that i like biden it's just stupid
People say that because the F word is considered rude, and it also mocks journalism coverup of anything related to Biden.
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
BlM riots were retarded ; january 6th riots were retarded
If you can’t honestly see the gigantic difference between the BLM riots and the Jan 6th meandering, then you’re easily tricked by the media. You talk about low IQ earlier and then act like the two events are essentially the same thing.
Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
Employers should pay more, and pay a livable wage; unionize
Some employers should pay more, agreed. But whatever you’re deeming a “livable wage” isn’t solely on the employer. Pretending that you can just pay people more money (out of thin air for a majority of companies) without taking into account personal spending habits, lack of housing, rising inflation, is as you put it, low IQ.
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Easy. Republicans are low educated brainwashed sheep who only care about themselves and believe they’re better than everyone else.


Republicans are a byproduct of bigotry and low education. That’s why if you look at any study, you will see the more educated you’re the less likely you will vote Republican. This is also why Republicans try very hard to suppress votes, they know if everyone could vote easily, there would never be another Republican elected.



Republicans are the party of hillbillies and religious nuts.
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
Easy. Republicans are low educated brainwashed sheep who only care about themselves and believe they’re better than everyone else.


Republicans are a byproduct of bigotry and low education. That’s why if you look at any study, you will see the more educated you’re the less likely you will vote Republican. This is also why Republicans try very hard to suppress votes, they know if everyone could vote easily, there would never be another Republican elected.



Republicans are the party of hillbillies and religious nuts.
Imagine being a "man" and using the word bigot/bigotry

the soy is strong in you
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
Imagine being a "man" and using the word bigot/bigotry

the soy is strong in you
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
Easy. Republicans are low educated brainwashed sheep who only care about themselves andbelieve they’re better than everyone else.

Republicans are a byproduct of bigotry and low education. That’s why if you look at any study, you will see the more educated you’re the less likely you will vote Republican. This is also why Republicans try very hard to suppress votes, they know if everyone could vote easily, there would never be another Republican elected.

Republicans are the party of hillbillies and religious nuts.
irony overload ^
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irony overload ^
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
They have internet in the trailer park?
Dial up, yes
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
Easy. Republicans are low educated brainwashed sheep who only care about themselves and believe they’re better than everyone else.


Republicans are a byproduct of bigotry and low education. That’s why if you look at any study, you will see the more educated you’re the less likely you will vote Republican. This is also why Republicans try very hard to suppress votes, they know if everyone could vote easily, there would never be another Republican elected.



Republicans are the party of hillbillies and religious nuts.
LOL oh the irony in this post

dear lord how can someone be so delusional, it hurts to read
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Your average Republican voter.

Your moderate Republican voter.

Your hardcore Republican voter.

The classical Republican platform.

The current Republican platform.

What Republican politicians say their values are.

What Republican politicians actually do.






These are all different things.



Same goes for democrats.


So your question is sort of impossible to answer.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
compulsory health savings accounts.

You pay a "tax" which is actually a deposit to an account WITH A BALANCE for you. You can only spend this money on healthcare, for yourself, spouse, or children.

Your employer has the same "tax" that goes into their balance... They can use this to assist employees when needed.

HAVING A BALANCE FORCES PEOPLE TO PRICE SHOP.

Our current system has insurers bidding for care and hospitals gouging to balance it out. It's a joke, and no patient is ever presented with a price menu before treatment, why the fuk not?
Why would insurance companies want you to price shop? This is your network. That's all you get lol

I recall my cousin having a heart issue and was asking for prices to be seen and he said it took them several hours to get him a cost while he waiting in the ER.

As far as left vs. right. It's just too simplistic. We need more parties. I'm conservative in a lot of ways and liberal in a lot of ways. Classical liberal. Not this new bat chit crazy chit.
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
Republicans are the party of hillbillies and religious nuts.
This is the same as saying Democrats are the party of pussies and degenerates


You and I both know it isn't that black and white.
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Your views are "I should get free stuff".

Right so how should that be implemented? How much of others' money do you think you are entitled to just for existing?
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Originally Posted By ChknFrydMFer⏩
This is the same as saying Democrats are the party of pussies and degenerates


You and I both know it isn't that black and white.
Oh come on. You and I both know rural white America and white religious nuts vote Republican. It’s proven. Just like minorities vote Democrat along with highly educated individuals.


Are there people that cross over? Sure. I have voted for Republican and Democrat presidents depending on stances. But generally speaking there is a pattern. Religious nuts are never going to vote Democrat in significant numbers due to abortion views.


And honestly there are legit only 2 reasons to vote Republican. Pro life and military spending. That’s it. I don’t agree with either of those, but those are really your only two arguments for voting R.
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I think there are many levels to republicanism (actual conservatives versus populists, for example) so your question is a little difficult to answer. You also sound like you are more of a rust belt dem from 1998.

Anyways, I do agree with more than a few of your points and I think it's pretty cool that you're interested in hearing from others.
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