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post 1658484523 03-24-2022, 08:32 AM
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Definitely sounds ideal for miscers
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Honestly I'm so tired of the office. It's easy work and I should be thankful, but I'm jealous of folks who are doing some sort of labor and working outdoors.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Are you debating weather or not lack of sleep is bad for your health?
lol he's all over the place with his logic, or lack thereof. Must be a tradie too lmao
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Honestly I'm so tired of the office. It's easy work and I should be thankful, but I'm jealous of folks who are doing some sort of labor and working outdoors.
Grass is always greener brah

I went from working labour and warehouse jobs to office/management stuff and still look back fondly at the ol' days. A mix of both would probably be the ideal tbh
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
In the high range that sounds very lucrative. For the "average range.....it doesnt seem worth it to trade the stress and lack of sleep (shortened life) for money.

Time is the only thing that no man on earth can make. Money can be printed and made on a whim.
Money can't be made and printed on a whim. Takes time and skill to make money. If you have me the opportunity to make say, $200k, in one season, I'd take the chances.

You want the most amount of time, figure out how to make the most amount money.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Are you debating weather or not lack of sleep is bad for your health?
are you acquiescing on your "it only takes hard work to make it" take?

no, i am not. but i doubt a few bad nights of sleep account for "years off of your life", only if its a specific habitual habit
Originally Posted By natypes⏩
lol he's all over the place with his logic, or lack thereof. Must be a tradie too lmao
manual labor is bad, which is why i do it too.

lol
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Money can't be made and printed on a whim. Takes time and skill to make money. If you have me the opportunity to make say, $200k, in one season, I'd take the chances.

You want the most amount of time, figure out how to make the most amount money.
All things relative but I disagree bro. If I asked you to go make more time or go make more money.....which one would you sign up for?
If you think money cant be printed on a whim then I have no idea where you have been the last 2 years...….

I would easily pay $200k....chit I would pay $2M for a guaranteed 10 years added on to my life no question.
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The best thing I “love” about my job, is that I get paid good money to not work a lot & the status that comes with my
Job title.

If you’re working yourself to the bone with your gay buddies on a ship, dat ain’t it mane. With that said, I would love to experience what you do for a weekend.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
are you acquiescing on your "it only takes hard work to make it" take?

no, i am not. but i doubt a few bad nights of sleep account for "years off of your life", only if its a specific habitual habit



manual labor is bad, which is why i do it too.

lol
Not at all bro. I never said it only takes hard work. Please quote me on that. What I said time and time again is that IT DOES take hard work.....so if you are not doing that already (which most are not) then you should start. Of course it takes other things, but no need to list them all out when most people arent even doing the thing that is obviously in their direct control.

"A few bad nights?" Bro as OP said, he has been doing it for 5 years, others for 20 years plus. Thats not just a few bad nights. Thats a complete lifestyle.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Not at all bro. I never said it only takes hard work. Please quote me on that.
i dont care enough to be quite honest

but someone busting their azz like op seems to be a proponent of what you espouse.

so, interesting you'd take that back

actually, not interesting. i know why hehe
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
All things relative but I disagree bro. If I asked you to go make more time or go make more money.....which one would you sign up for?
If you think money cant be printed on a whim then I have no idea where you have been the last 2 years...….

I would easily pay $200k....chit I would pay $2M for a guaranteed 10 years added on to my life no question.
But you really can't make more time if you don't have the funds. Only minor adjustments. You can get another job with a smaller commute, stop wasting time watching tv and playing videos, but really you can't make more time. You need money to make time.

Someone with money can hire a maid to clean and a chef to cook. They can buy real estate and work less hours. They can outsource their job and work less hours.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
In the high range that sounds very lucrative. For the "average range.....it doesnt seem worth it to trade the stress and lack of sleep (shortened life) for money.

Time is the only thing that no man on earth can make. Money can be printed and made on a whim.
If you own the boat you take 55% of the gross right off the top. 5 years ago you could have bought one similar to what I run with a license and traps for about 2.5 million, we grossed over 5 million in 5 months this year so it can be a ridiculous investment. The owner of the boat I run turned down just under 5 million for it recently. If you have someone that can produce it makes no sense to sell.

My plan is to leverage my skills into getting stake in a boat with $0 down just a contract requiring me to run it for (x) years. Not common but also not unheard of and have been making a decent name for myself so far.

The time aspect does not bother me because there is literally nothing I would rather do, and on slow years sometimes I will take 6 months off.

For deckhands even making 75k in a few months and then getting 6+ months to either work, travel etc. is not a bad gig.

It's a live fishery so trips are short lots of guys are home all the time, as a young guy trying to make moves I just grind as hard as the weather will allow.
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Originally Posted By CptClean⏩
If you own the boat you take 55% of the gross right off the top. 5 years ago you could have bought one similar to what I run with a license and traps for about 2.5 million, we grossed over 5 million in 5 months this year so it can be a ridiculous investment. The owner of the boat I run turned down just under 5 million for it recently. If you have someone that can produce it makes no sense to sell.

My plan is to leverage my skills into getting stake in a boat with $0 down just a contract requiring me to run it for (x) years. Not common but also not unheard of and have been making a decent name for myself so far.

The time aspect does not bother me because there is literally nothing I would rather do, and on slow years sometimes I will take 6 months off.

For deckhands even making 75k in a few months and then getting 6+ months to either work, travel etc. is not a bad gig.

It's a live fishery so trips are short lots of guys are home all the time, as a young guy trying to make moves I just grind as hard as the weather will allow.
How old are you
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Honestly a lil jelly. In another life i want to be an officer on a cargo vessel. Do enjoy my current job though
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i dont care enough to be quite honest

but someone busting their azz like op seems to be a proponent of what you espouse.

so, interesting you'd take that back

actually, not interesting. i know why hehe
Exactly....you cant.

There is a major difference between working hard consistently and doing the work that a crab fisherman does. From what I can tell the work is highly stressful and its attributes could directly impact longevity. The combination of high stress and lack of sleep will easily take years off your life. It blows my mind that I actually have to spell that out?
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Originally Posted By CptClean⏩
If you own the boat you take 55% of the gross right off the top. 5 years ago you could have bought one similar to what I run with a license and traps for about 2.5 million, we grossed over 5 million in 5 months this year so it can be a ridiculous investment. The owner of the boat I run turned down just under 5 million for it recently. If you have someone that can produce it makes no sense to sell.

My plan is to leverage my skills into getting stake in a boat with $0 down just a contract requiring me to run it for (x) years. Not common but also not unheard of and have been making a decent name for myself so far.

The time aspect does not bother me because there is literally nothing I would rather do, and on slow years sometimes I will take 6 months off.

For deckhands even making 75k in a few months and then getting 6+ months to either work, travel etc. is not a bad gig.

It's a live fishery so trips are short lots of guys are home all the time, as a young guy trying to make moves I just grind as hard as the weather will allow.
$75k in 3 months. That's a yearly salary for a lot of people. Is crab fishing more dangerous than the oil rigs? What do the guys do during off season?
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Not at all bro. I never said it only takes hard work. Please quote me on that. What I said time and time again is that IT DOES take hard work.....so if you are not doing that already (which most are not) then you should start. Of course it takes other things, but no need to list them all out when most people arent even doing the thing that is obviously in their direct control.

"A few bad nights?" Bro as OP said, he has been doing it for 5 years, others for 20 years plus. Thats not just a few bad nights. Thats a complete lifestyle.
I'm an anomoly even in this industry I've never met anyone that sleeps less than me, I've been up for about 42 hours and just docked the boat and now I'm chilling miscing and trading 1dte options instead of going to sleep.

I wouldn't say fisherman die any sooner than, truckers, welders etc.

I really believe all that fresh ocean air is good for you.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
But you really can't make more time if you don't have the funds. Only minor adjustments. You can get another job with a smaller commute, stop wasting time watching tv and playing videos, but really you can't make more time. You need money to make time.

Someone with money can hire a maid to clean and a chef to cook. They can buy real estate and work less hours. They can outsource their job and work less hours.
I dont disagree with the fact that money gives access to more time (finite upside). My position is that doing this particular job.....you are making money sure.....and that money can give you more time.....but at the same time those job conditions will more than likely shorten your life span. There are many other ways to make money without risking your health.

If thats the only thing you are capable of....then of course go do that (if you were gifted the job as it seems hard to come by) but my preference would be to make money while I sleep.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Exactly....you cant.

There is a major difference between working hard consistently and doing the work that a crab fisherman does. From what I can tell the work is highly stressful and its attributes could directly impact longevity. The combination of high stress and lack of sleep will easily take years off your life. It blows my mind that I actually have to spell that out?
It makes sense what you're saying, but who says you have to do it forever? Do it for a few seasons, if it goes good you walk away with what? $200k? College tuition. Erase all debt. Down payment on a house. Emergency savings. As for you health, can't that heal once you're out of that field?

If you aren't in a very high paying field, life is slow and tough. 10 year student loans, 5 years to save up 20% for house, etc.
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Originally Posted By drvillain⏩
How old are you
I'm 30, I've only been fishing for 5 years though. I am the only captain in the fleet that didn't grow up fishing / from a fishing family.
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Originally Posted By CptClean⏩
If you own the boat you take 55% of the gross right off the top. 5 years ago you could have bought one similar to what I run with a license and traps for about 2.5 million, we grossed over 5 million in 5 months this year so it can be a ridiculous investment. The owner of the boat I run turned down just under 5 million for it recently. If you have someone that can produce it makes no sense to sell.

My plan is to leverage my skills into getting stake in a boat with $0 down just a contract requiring me to run it for (x) years. Not common but also not unheard of and have been making a decent name for myself so far.

The time aspect does not bother me because there is literally nothing I would rather do, and on slow years sometimes I will take 6 months off.

For deckhands even making 75k in a few months and then getting 6+ months to either work, travel etc. is not a bad gig.

It's a live fishery so trips are short lots of guys are home all the time, as a young guy trying to make moves I just grind as hard as the weather will allow.
Good insight. The play here seems to be to get to be a boat owner as quickly as possible and not actually be out there operating that boat.
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Originally Posted By CptClean⏩
I'm 30, I've only been fishing for 5 years though. I am the only captain in the fleet that didn't grow up fishing / from a fishing family.
Mirin. How did you get started bro. That’s pretty unheard of I’m sure
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
It makes sense what you're saying, but who says you have to do it forever? Do it for a few seasons, if it goes good you walk away with what? $200k? College tuition. Erase all debt. Down payment on a house. Emergency savings. As for you health, can't that heal once you're out of that field?

If you aren't in a very high paying field, life is slow and tough. 10 year student loans, 5 years to save up 20% for house, etc.
Good point. You definitely aren't locked in. Problem is.....law of basic economics is that MOST people adjust their living standard to what they make. So suddenly you are making $200k a year and now that is what you need to exist. You are correct, the real hack is to stack as much paper as possible then bounce? But honestly, how many of those types of people do you know if your life? Not many.

To your other points.....if you follow the consistent slow and steady route.....college tuition is taken care of because you got a scholarship. You never got into debt in the first place etc.

Everyone is looking for the quick way to get to X Y or Z. In life, there are very few lotteries with no down side.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Grass is always greener brah

I went from working labour and warehouse jobs to office/management stuff and still look back fondly at the ol' days. A mix of both would probably be the ideal tbh
Yes. Went from retail to office work. I was amazed how freaking easy the job was for more pay. Like, WTH? How does this make sense?

But the soul killing boredom though...not seeing the sky, off work at the same time as nearly everyone else so always dealing with crowds and traffic, staring at a screen or a wall with no real work to do, but you can't leave...gotta wait out the clock. Misery.
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
-Surrounded by seamen
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-Deckhands kinda sounds like dickhands

Definitely sounds ideal for miscers


Fair sailing captain.

IMO if you can get ownership of your own boat by 35-ish that's a reasonable time to be settling down more if you want to have a family.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Good point. You definitely aren't locked in. Problem is.....law of basic economics is that MOST people adjust their living standard to what they make. So suddenly you are making $200k a year and now that is what you need to exist. You are correct, the real hack is to stack as much paper as possible then bounce? But honestly, how many of those types of people do you know if your life? Not many.

To your other points.....if you follow the consistent slow and steady route.....college tuition is taken care of because you got a scholarship. You never got into debt in the first place etc.

Everyone is looking for the quick way to get to X Y or Z. In life, there are very few lotteries with no down side.
I wouldn't say most, the average joe would leave, especially in those conditions. People go back to school all the time to switch to office work. If they adjust their standards, that's on them. But I'd 100% take the chances now if I could earn $75k in 3 months.

Sometimes it's worth it to take the risk towards an easier life.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Exactly....you cant.
no.. won't is more accurate

i'm fairly confident you didn't want to attribute "making it" to anything other than "hard work".

hell, you even espoused getting 2 jobs for 25k/ year at 80 hours a week and are in this thread now stating a discrepancy between time exchanged and money made

which, again, is directly counteractive to what you were arguing about before
There is a major difference between working hard consistently and doing the work that a crab fisherman does. From what I can tell the work is highly stressful and its attributes could directly impact longevity. The combination of high stress and lack of sleep will easily take years off your life. It blows my mind that I actually have to spell that out?
blah, blah, blah... i believe even more you didn't do chit on your own

the same could be said for someone starting their own business. when they have nothing starting from scratch building from the ground up. i suppose then you'd be telling them their work is not worth the money exchanged?

i dont think op is in the territory of years off his life yet tbh

but i certainly agree it's not a good habit
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
I dont disagree with the fact that money gives access to more time (finite upside). My position is that doing this particular job.....you are making money sure.....and that money can give you more time.....but at the same time those job conditions will more than likely shorten your life span. There are many other ways to make money without risking your health.

If thats the only thing you are capable of....then of course go do that (if you were gifted the job as it seems hard to come by) but my preference would be to make money while I sleep.
I could probably do whatever I want, I went fishing with a friend while I was on vacation and immediately quit my job, broke up with my gf and moved back to the coast, I love this **** and I love the competition. You are stacked up next to everyone else and everyone knows who's the best, hard to find an environment like that.

I feel like people who want to do nothing and sit on a beach have never actually had that luxury before, it gets old fast, I've made and lost a (relatively) lot of money in my life and done all sorts of **** and nothing has brought me fulfillment like what I do now. Everything I have is paid off I don't work like this because I have to.

The idea of outfitting a boat and pioneering a new fishery or something is much more appealing to me than drinking margaritas on the beach. I live on the beach it gets boring like everything else.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
not seeing the sky, off work at the same time as nearly everyone else so always dealing with crowds and traffic, staring at a screen or a wall with no real work to do, but you can't leave...gotta wait out the clock. Misery.
AND is if that is not unhealthy too

but remember... exercising in the form of manual labor for health
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Yes. Went from retail to office work. I was amazed how freaking easy the job was for more pay. Like, WTH? How does this make sense?

But the soul killing boredom though...not seeing the sky, off work at the same time as nearly everyone else so always dealing with crowds and traffic, staring at a screen or a wall with no real work to do, but you can't leave...gotta wait out the clock. Misery.
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Sounds like its time for a change. Life it too short to be miserable every day. I know it could be tough based on some things we know about your situation but I hope at least you have a plan to a better source of income!
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
no.. won't is more accurate

i'm fairly confident you didn't want to attribute "making it" to anything other than "hard work".

hell, you even espoused getting 2 jobs for 25k/ year at 80 hours a week and are in this thread now stating a discrepancy between time exchanged and money made

which, again, is directly counteractive to what you were arguing about before



blah, blah, blah... i believe even more you didn't do chit on your own

the same could be said for someone starting their own business. when they have nothing starting from scratch building from the ground up. i suppose then you'd be telling them their work is not worth the money exchanged?

i dont think op is in the territory of years off his life yet tbh

but i certainly agree it's not a good habit
Don is an OG rich miscer brah he knows what he's talking about.

I don't worry about the lifespan issue I should be dead already
One day scientists are going to kill us all.
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