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1984 should without a doubt be mandatory reading for everyone
09-21-2022, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Yes, I agree. Speaking for myself, most of the time, books are better than movies based on them.I liked the book better
The movie of the year for that year was “The Muppets Take Manhattan”. That was seriously the first movie I ever watched in theatre. Like when it first came out. The screen that size was a surreal larger than life experience for me.
The movie of the year for that year was “The Muppets Take Manhattan”. That was seriously the first movie I ever watched in theatre. Like when it first came out. The screen that size was a surreal larger than life experience for me.
But also I have a soft spot for those based on ones by my favorite authors.
LOL, I was 25 and even my daughter wasn't born yet that year...

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09-21-2022, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By JonZ⏩
They are both awesome . SrsIMHO Animal Farm is the better book.
09-21-2022, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Samraiwise⏩
Yup lol. I was just 4. The movie is good but of course I didn’t see the movie adaptation of 1984 until many years after it released. The sex scene was kind of hot. The ending with Winston was different than the book iirc.Yes, I agree. Speaking for myself, most of the time, books are better than movies based on them.
But also I have a soft spot for those based on ones by my favorite authors.

LOL, I was 25 and even my daughter wasn't born yet that year...
But also I have a soft spot for those based on ones by my favorite authors.
LOL, I was 25 and even my daughter wasn't born yet that year...

That muppet movie, Wizard of Oz, and Porkys were my favorite childhood movies.
Speaking of movies based on books by Orwell and speaking of animal farm. There is a movie of it that isn’t bad but where the book is undeniably better . There is also a family friendly kids movie called animal farm but I never saw it. The one I watched was darker and I already know Is more closely related to orwells masterpiece.
09-21-2022, 06:51 PM
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1984 is a great book, Brave New World was also excellent. It seems like many in power are reading 1984 as an instruction manual rather than a warning.
"Contrary to common belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing. Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But in Huxley’s vision, no Big Brother is required to reprise people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be n one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy.
As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions”. In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us."
"Contrary to common belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing. Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But in Huxley’s vision, no Big Brother is required to reprise people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be n one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy.
As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions”. In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us."
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09-21-2022, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Yes & a great commentator as well, also a very good Billiards player. He has just retired from the editorship of Snooker Scene which he owns after 51 years straight & other than the Covid Pandemic where it missed 2 issues due to ill health aged 85 & it being very hard to make money from magazines now, he edited every issue. Likely only Hugh Heffner has edited a magazine for the same time or longer. Used to spill all the backstage dirt like Uncle Dave when he was still a journalist rather than a Young Bucks fanboy.Never read of it. The author is good?
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09-22-2022, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
animal farm rustled my jimmies when i finished itAnimal Farm as well. 1984 shows the end game. Animal Farm shows the gradual progress of propaganda and corrupt leaders.
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09-23-2022, 03:01 PM
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09-23-2022, 03:08 PM
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I guess I should get around to reading Animal Farm
I've heard about it and what it's about, but what I was previously told was it is fairly fundamental and basic.
I've heard about it and what it's about, but what I was previously told was it is fairly fundamental and basic.
09-23-2022, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
The pigs are straight up dicks!!!!!! SpoilerI guess I should get around to reading Animal Farm
I've heard about it and what it's about, but what I was previously told was it is fairly fundamental and basic.
I've heard about it and what it's about, but what I was previously told was it is fairly fundamental and basic.The ending is not basic at all.
09-24-2022, 09:02 AM
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Can’t even get some cunny in an old bell tower without living in fear tho
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09-24-2022, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Softworn⏩
I've heard a lot of mixed things about that oneCatch-22 and 1984
09-24-2022, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
It both made me laugh and shook me. Very similarly to Slaughterhouse V which is in my top 10 goat reads. I highly recommend both. Actually most days It is my favorite book of all time.I've heard a lot of mixed things about that one
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