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post 1672437953 12-07-2022, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By desslok
Imagine being the tradie that built that building that took a direct nuke and came out unscathed! He probably bragged to his friends at the gas station every morning til he died.
Yet a commercial jet can take down two of the biggest buildings in the world
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Originally Posted By gluon
"You only focusing on Navy, but bombs >>> navy."

silly statement, all war with japan hinged exclusively on naval power, how else can two powers fight island vs island across oceans.

all i'm saying is your lack of understanding how mighty the jap navy really was makes all your other points less valid.
planes and bombs?

I agreed with you that Japan have the naval advantage in the beginning of the war. But not by the time the USA entered the war.

"Admiral Yamamoto had warned the government before the war that Japan had to win quickly or not at all, that they could not begin to match America’s industrial potential"

^ because of that reason, Japan had ZERO chance to win. Navy is not everything. Especially when your enemy can build a navy 100x faster than you.
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Nuclear power can be used for some great or something devastating - there's no better way to produce power in this day and age other than nuclear and is the safest and best if 'done right' and using this to destroy a civilization is also another use, but I'm not sure if it such a good use.
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Originally Posted By bicmane123
planes and bombs?

I agreed with you that Japan have the naval advantage in the beginning of the war. But not by the time the USA entered the war.

"Admiral Yamamoto had warned the government before the war that Japan had to win quickly or not at all, that they could not begin to match America’s industrial potential"

^ because of that reason, Japan had ZERO chance to win. Navy is not everything. Especially when your enemy can build a navy 100x faster than you.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
Nuclear power can be used for some great or something devastating - there's no better way to produce power in this day and age other than nuclear and is the safest and best if 'done right' and using this to destroy a civilization is also another use, but I'm not sure if it such a good use.
Anytime I think of Nuclear power plant I think of Chernobyl. Nuclear disaster.

To me it doesn't seem the safest energy source.
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post 1672438493 12-07-2022, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted By bicmane123
planes and bombs?

I agreed with you that Japan have the naval advantage in the beginning of the war. But not by the time the USA entered the war.

"Admiral Yamamoto had warned the government before the war that Japan had to win quickly or not at all, that they could not begin to match America’s industrial potential"

^ because of that reason, Japan had ZERO chance to win. Navy is not everything. Especially when your enemy can build a navy 100x faster than you.
Once the US entered the war, the entire economy went towards war production.

It was Nationalism and Patriotic Duty to do so.

All the men went to war and all the women built stuff. A lot like how ancient tribal humans were. Men went to hunt while the women did other stuff.
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Originally Posted By gluon
that doesn't make sense, at the time the US navy was small in power compared to Japans. The chance victory greatly favored the Japs at the start of the war.
Kind of does make sense. Japan has a strong navy at the start but didn't have the resources or manufacturing capability to sustain a prolonged conflict as the US could and they knew this. That's why Japan had to crush the US Pacific Fleet, with the carriers prioritized, in one strike to have head start and bring the US to the negotiating table. It was known both sides air power was the future of naval warfare. Knocking out the American carriers would have been a gamechanger (the US could build more, but it would take time). Future battles such as Midway would have swung in Japans favor and likely victory. Problem was, every carrier of the Pacific fleet was out at sea. Luck? Maybe. Or someone knew something was about to happen and made sure none of the 4 carriers in the Pacific were sitting ducks.
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Originally Posted By bicmane123
planes and bombs?

I agreed with you that Japan have the naval advantage in the beginning of the war. But not by the time the USA entered the war.

"Admiral Yamamoto had warned the government before the war that Japan had to win quickly or not at all, that they could not begin to match America’s industrial potential"

^ because of that reason, Japan had ZERO chance to win. Navy is not everything. Especially when your enemy can build a navy 100x faster than you.
On top of that, the new ships were already under construction.

Japan had no viable plan for invading the mainland USA (nor did any of the axis). They wanted to hurt the US badly enough so that the US would seek a negotiated truce and make concessions.

The US strategy for the first year was to just hang on until the new ships arrived. After that, the US had all the advatages.
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If you are actually interested in the naval parts of the war this guys videos are a MUST watch. As most people know the battle of midway was the turning point in the pacific naval war. There are a lot, and they are long, so it takes a few hours to get through but super detailed. Basically a lot of luck and risk was involved..

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post 1672439453 12-07-2022, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted By lnvictus
Now Japan is begging for US Nukes. Just imagine going back to the country who destroyed two of your cities and beg for protection.
They also have the most US soldiers out of any country.

Japan and Korea are just pawns of the U.S in the west's war against China.
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Originally Posted By bicmane123
America baited Japan into attacking pearl harbor so they could get the public support needed to bring America into the war.

Fk dat chit.

Same idea with 9/11.

That's probably the only thing that could unite the American people. "act of war" against us.
Lol how did the US bait them to commit a war crime?
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Originally Posted By taskmob
Lol how did the US bait them to commit a war crime?
"Japan intended the attack as a preventive action. Its aim was to prevent the United States Pacific Fleet from interfering with its planned military actions in Southeast Asia against overseas territories of the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and those of the United States."

The US embargoed Japan, which meant Japan could no longer win the long game without expanding. They had no oil/resources anymore.

They had to go take over chit, which certainly meant the US would get involved. Or die.

We all know they wouldn't choose to die/surrender. It's baiting.
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Anytime I think of Nuclear power plant I think of Chernobyl. Nuclear disaster.

To me it doesn't seem the safest energy source.
That's why I said 'done right' - what else is plentiful enough to last us until 'something new' comes along?
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Anytime I think of Nuclear power plant I think of Chernobyl. Nuclear disaster.

To me it doesn't seem the safest energy source.
There have been many innovations in reactor design for safety since then.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
hiroshima after.... after.

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Japan we’re getting wrecked by Aussies all through the pacific. America just saved the bugs from being embarrassed by superior Australian genetics
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
Imagine if all major cities got nuked today.

No more Democrats.

No more joggers.
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Originally Posted By gluon
that doesn't make sense, at the time the US navy was small in power compared to Japans. The chance victory greatly favored the Japs at the start of the war.
Except it wasn’t about Japan at all. The US was using Japan as an excuse to enter the war and attack Germany. Which is why after Pearl Harbor and the declaration of war, the US focused on Germany first, not Japan.

For years the US tried to bait Germany into a direct confrontation, especially at sea but the Germans were disciplined and didn’t react. Thats when the US decided it would need to provoke Japan.

The US wanted to join the war and was willing to lie and provoke others to make it happen.
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Originally Posted By Pats2022SBwin
And yet the 'after' pictures are still better than Africa
And most Dem-run cities
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
Imagine if all major cities got nuked today.

No more Democrats.

No more joggers.
You don’t even come outside tho
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this cheeky ****ot did all that





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Originally Posted By bicmane123
America baited Japan into attacking pearl harbor so they could get the public support needed to bring America into the war.

Fk dat chit.

Same idea with 9/11.

That's probably the only thing that could unite the American people. "act of war" against us.
Makes sense in a way. Even with Hitler controlling Europe we still had an ocean between us, why would we have cared? Aside from stopping the needless and endless death and destruction there was nothing from stopping continuing to live on, i.e South America, to which many ex Germans fled. The main component that brought us into the war was Alliances and Treaties with other countries. Take that as you will, making other people's problems your own and inserting yourself into a conflict that isn't truly yours. (Ukraine sounds familiar). Example would be having two neighbors fighting outside and you try to break up the fight and get smashed in the head. You stop the fight but it costs you a trip to the hospital. It's hard when you start breaking things down and go down the what if we did and what if we didn't road.
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Originally Posted By gluon
that doesn't make sense, at the time the US navy was small in power compared to Japans. The chance victory greatly favored the Japs at the start of the war.
No it didn’t. They never stood a chance. Neither did Germany unless every single thing went right for them and they were far more diplomatically cunning.

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