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Thread: Oregon introduces bill to give homeless people incentive never to work again

post 1678127843 03-01-2023, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
It's not for life. It's potentially a one year demonstration program to develop methods and study outcomes.

Still, even if done in good faith, it's probably doomed to fail.
You know it will fail, as would anyone without luke warm iq. These people need to be cut off all supports, other than mental and rehab, and housing if clean and willing to work.

Caught doing a crime and instantly evaluated if mental care is needed, otherwise 5 years in prison or a 6 month strict rehab. This happens for any crime and everytime.

The only way thats going to actually help and not just "my feelings and empathy".
post 1678128193 03-01-2023, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
Good to know if my life ever goes south I will just hitchhike to Oregon, live rent free, while doing drugs.
1k isn't enough for rent in OR lol
post 1678132093 03-01-2023, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By ThePD⏩
You know it will fail, as would anyone without luke warm iq. These people need to be cut off all supports, other than mental and rehab, and housing if clean and willing to work.

Caught doing a crime and instantly evaluated if mental care is needed, otherwise 5 years in prison or a 6 month strict rehab. This happens for any crime and everytime.

The only way thats going to actually help and not just "my feelings and empathy".
I agree criminals should be punished. Doesn't have much to with it though, living on the street isn't a crime in many instances. Doing drugs often isn't either.

Again, the OP posted ignorant bullchit for some weird reason. The intent of the proposed bill is not to hand drugged out gutter zombies $1,000. It's to essentially do what you're suggesting, provide support for mental health and housing. The direct payments can theoretically reduce government middlemen and bloat and give more options to recipients.

It's an age old problem, this obviously isn't going to be a silver bullet, but at least be honest about what it is or isn't.
post 1678132413 03-01-2023, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Bigbuster1⏩
It’s so infuriating to hear people talk like you
Sorry brah, it's not meant to make you mad. Maybe find a safe space were you aren't bothered by uncomfortable facts.
post 1678132703 03-01-2023, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
this is GREAT for other states. Homeless will flock to Oregon. We should all be grateful for Oregon sacrificing themselves
I'm tempted to move there, identify as homeless, and pay cash for a rental.


Many borderline people will feel cheated. They will have to make a list of arbitrary qualifications some administrator will handle.


I predict lots of money will be siphoned off by officials.
post 1678132843 03-01-2023, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
Agreed. If they can't take care of themselves.


There are some working homeless though living in cars and taking your order at restaurants. Those ones should not be sent to the looney bin.
post 1678132913 03-01-2023, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By ToxMasculinity⏩
All states need to start the bus program that NYC used to have until they outlawed it. NYC used to not have a homeless issue, because they would gather them up like cattle and send them off on a bus with a one way ticket to another state miles away. We need a bus program for the whole country tat will bus them all to Oregon and California. (Ded fkn Srs)
Sounds like an interstate commerce issue.
post 1678133083 03-01-2023, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Sounds expensive.

It's not a crime to be batchit crazy, it is to trespass, do drugs, steal and fight though.

Almost feel the best idea is to sterilize and send them off to BLM land somewhere to be free do all that chit without bothering anyone.
I don't want them on BLM land. That's where I go camping. They can voluntarily camp there if they are into that, but we should not encourage it. No bringing them food there.

I prefer a big box shaped building they stay inside of, funded by thrift stores on the first floor.
post 1678135073 03-01-2023, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
At the start of every month there is going to be $1000 crack parties all over the streets.
Yep. All the money will make it to the drug peddlers soon enough.

And if it is targeted, then that means only friends of the Oregon democrats will get the money. You or I get turned away.
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