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Thread: Oregon introduces bill to give homeless people incentive never to work again

post 1678108363 02-28-2023, 07:18 PM
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Oregon introduces bill to give homeless people incentive never to work again

Instead of using the money for efforts to get them off drugs and train them to work so they could be a productive member of society, they give them $1k a month for life as long as they continue to do nothing and just be homeless.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ore...ple-1000-month
post 1678108993 02-28-2023, 07:30 PM
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this is GREAT for other states. Homeless will flock to Oregon. We should all be grateful for Oregon sacrificing themselves
post 1678109393 02-28-2023, 07:36 PM
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The $1,000 payments can be used at recipients' discretion, but supporters say it will be used toward rent and other living expenses.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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post 1678111463 02-28-2023, 08:10 PM
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A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
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post 1678112893 02-28-2023, 08:31 PM
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Yup time for everyone making less than 50K to just quit their fuking job and play video games all day. Not worth it to wake up early and bust your ass off dealing with scumbag customers when you can just watch Netflix all day and eat pizza.

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post 1678113033 02-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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Also, Idaho is in talks with Oregon to take over the red counties that want to secede from the state.
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
this is GREAT for other states. Homeless will flock to Oregon. We should all be grateful for Oregon sacrificing themselves
All states need to start the bus program that NYC used to have until they outlawed it. NYC used to not have a homeless issue, because they would gather them up like cattle and send them off on a bus with a one way ticket to another state miles away. We need a bus program for the whole country tat will bus them all to Oregon and California. (Ded fkn Srs)
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post 1678113693 02-28-2023, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
they give them $1k a month for life as long as they continue to do nothing and just be homeless.
It's not for life. It's potentially a one year demonstration program to develop methods and study outcomes.

Still, even if done in good faith, it's probably doomed to fail.
post 1678113963 02-28-2023, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
Sounds expensive.

It's not a crime to be batchit crazy, it is to trespass, do drugs, steal and fight though.

Almost feel the best idea is to sterilize and send them off to BLM land somewhere to be free do all that chit without bothering anyone.
post 1678114143 02-28-2023, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By ToxMasculinity⏩
All states need to start the bus program that NYC used to have until they outlawed it. NYC used to not have a homeless issue, because they would gather them up like cattle and send them off on a bus with a one way ticket to another state miles away. We need a bus program for the whole country tat will bus them all to Oregon and California. (Ded fkn Srs)
A lot of the states do this now. California got caught giving homeless one way plane tickets to Hawaii a few years ago. In return Hawaii sued them and while the case was going on they started offering the homeless one way plane tickets back.

Honestly seems like a great way to travel. Just say you're homeless and keep getting free plane tickets
post 1678114153 02-28-2023, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
It's not for life. It's potentially a one year demonstration program to develop methods and study outcomes.

Still, even if done in good faith, it's probably doomed to fail.
There's nothing to study and everyone with a common sense already knows the outcome - waste of money and more bums feeling incentive to continue being a burden to society. It's guaranteed.

Those lazy homeless bums need to be put to work or else thrown in jail if they keep harassing people for a handout. Make those bastards cut the grass and clean the streets if they can't do anything else.
post 1678114313 02-28-2023, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
this is GREAT for other states. Homeless will flock to Oregon. We should all be grateful for Oregon sacrificing themselves
Florida should bus them there dead srs
post 1678114423 02-28-2023, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
I remember years back Dateline did a special on panhandlers and found that the average begger makes anywhere between 50-120k.
Here in San Diego, I was driving by the Del Mar race track in the evening, legit saw a panhandler take off his rags to reveal him wearing some nice jeans and a polo, rolled up his rags, walked to his Mercedes and throw them in the back. Looked at my then GF, and she just said, "maybe we should try that tomorrow"
post 1678115163 02-28-2023, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
There's nothing to study and everyone with a common sense already knows the outcome - waste of money and more bums feeling incentive to continue being a burden to society. It's guaranteed.

Those lazy homeless bums need to be put to work or else thrown in jail if they keep harassing people for a handout. Make those bastards cut the grass and clean the streets if they can't do anything else.
It's not aimed at the lost causes. It's to figure out a way to identify people on the edge who are still interested and capable of helping themselves so the homeless problem doesn't get worse.

Not the worst idea if it's mainly redirecting existing spending more effectively.

Not new or exciting, and I'm seriously skeptical too because these things usually result in a lot of wasted effort for no improvement, but I don't blame them for continuing to try. And hey, maybe it's just one more step to rock bottom where Oregonians will get fed up and elect Hitler to fix it LOL.
post 1678115923 02-28-2023, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
This x10
post 1678115933 02-28-2023, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
Florida should bus them there dead srs
They should bus in dead homeless people? That would pretty interesting, ngl
post 1678119343 02-28-2023, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
how to fund that
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
how to fund that
Money earmarked for the Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
It's not for life. It's potentially a one year demonstration program to develop methods and study outcomes.

Still, even if done in good faith, it's probably doomed to fail.
It’s so infuriating to hear people talk like you
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The homeless should all be forced into a labor camps. Work a real job or sleep in a 1x7 foot cell in your own feces.
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Isn't this kind of a band-aid for a huge wound?


Wouldn't it be much better to invest this money into affordable housing subsidies, so if someone has a home they can work on at least a steady supply of food and eventually employment and a proper living etc. Then health care which can be a sizeable burden for the lower income demographic.

This looks like an ultimately useless yet feel good fix so politicians look after their optics, and it looks like they care and are being proactive about a social issue. If you just hand someone cash and not the proper infrastructure for an actual life, the money will go nowhere except the local boozers and drug dealers.


Oh, and it could definitely shuttle all the homeless into Oregon.



Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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At the start of every month there is going to be $1000 crack parties all over the streets.
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BRB moving to Oregon to sell meth, get out of jail the next day every time I'm caught. My overnights in jail will just give me more connects. I'll also have well paid students selling 2 liters of soda for $6. Laugh all you want, I'll be retiring in 2 years.
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You guys overestimate how many homeless are mindless drug addicts and underestimate how many are transitionary homeless. Worst case scenario, that 1k runs right back through into the economy. Oh well. Best case, you help a bunch of poor people get back on their feet. It's not enough to destroy work incentives. You can't even make rent on 12k a year in cities in Oregon. But you can maybe get back on your feet.
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[QUOTE=TaiMaiSchutze;1678124673]You guys overestimate how many homeless are mindless drug addicts/QUOTE]

Uhhhh...yeah no. Everyone except for liberals know homeless are drug addicts.
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[QUOTE=DumpsterFire;1678125243][QUOTE=TaiMaiSchutze post_id=1678124673]You guys overestimate how many homeless are mindless drug addicts/QUOTE]

Uhhhh...yeah no. Everyone except for liberals know homeless are drug addicts.[/QUOTE]It's not even most. While drug use rates are high, the majority of homeless do not have a drug addiction. I'll also remind you many homeless live in cars or couch surf.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
A better idea would be to institutionalize the homeless. Most have severe mental issues. Anytime caught panhandling gets sent to the looney bin.
Worst idea possible.

They can't even get the dmv right...
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Isn't this kind of a band-aid for a huge wound?


Wouldn't it be much better to invest this money into affordable housing subsidies, so if someone has a home they can work on at least a steady supply of food and eventually employment and a proper living etc. Then health care which can be a sizeable burden for the lower income demographic.

This looks like an ultimately useless yet feel good fix so politicians look after their optics, and it looks like they care and are being proactive about a social issue. If you just hand someone cash and not the proper infrastructure for an actual life, the money will go nowhere except the local boozers and drug dealers.


Oh, and it could definitely shuttle all the homeless into Oregon.



People aren't homeless because of housing, they're homeless because they're drug addicts with mental issues.
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Good to know if my life ever goes south I will just hitchhike to Oregon, live rent free, while doing drugs.
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