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post 1680041173 04-02-2023, 08:24 AM
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You sexually abuse a child, you are a peado. Death is only acceptable punishment even if jlc was abused as a kid, by the time he reached adulthood he should know better.

Doesn't need to be a public execution, just do the thing they do to cows. Clean up the sex registry and make it smaller.

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post 1680041293 04-02-2023, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Nope.

I'm not ignoring gratification, sexual or otherwise. I'm stating that the diagnosis of ****philia is based on attraction and contrasting that with motives/precursors that lead to child abuse.
Source for your claim regarding motivations? How did they read the minds of people who committed those acts?
post 1680041313 04-02-2023, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Just when I thought we wouldn't get any more autistic around here than comparing Shakespeare in the Park to Strip Clubs, JLC goes and starts this.
I didn't start this thread
post 1680041333 04-02-2023, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Dudes sexually assault children and JLC be like, "It's ok bro I know you're not a ped0phile!"
That's not something I have ever said nor would say.
post 1680041353 04-02-2023, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Source for your claim regarding motivations? How did they read the minds of people who committed those acts?
Interviews and psychoanalysis.
post 1680041383 04-02-2023, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Dudes sexually assault children and JLC be like, "It's ok bro I know you're not a ped0phile!"
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
That's not something I have ever said nor would say.
This discussion says otherwise.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Most perpetrators of child (sexual) abuse aren't p3dophiles.
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post 1680041573 04-02-2023, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By adamsteve14
Simply pointing out that it’s a peculiar stance to take
What stance? I have not in any way condoned, sympathized, no defended any such act or behaviour.
post 1680041643 04-02-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
This discussion says otherwise.
How so?
post 1680041753 04-02-2023, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
How so?
And now you're acting stupid again.

The very fact that you're hiding behind some arcane psychological study in your attempt at making excuses is how.
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post 1680041813 04-02-2023, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Interviews and psychoanalysis.
Source: trust me, bro.
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post 1680041853 04-02-2023, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
And now you're acting stupid again.

The very fact that you're hiding behind some arcane psychological study in your attempt at making excuses is how.
All I stated was that child abuse, child sexual abuse, and child molestation are often perpetrated by individuals who are not ****philes. In my opinion, any such acts and behaviours are inexcusable and deplorable regardless of the psychological profile of the perpetrator.
post 1680042043 04-02-2023, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Source: trust me, bro.
Well, no. It's not like it's an unstudied phenomenon.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digiti...49252NCJRS.pdf

https://www.bishop-accountability.or...pologiesOf.pdf
post 1680042103 04-02-2023, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
According to JLC...



A couple of us told him that yeah, they kinda are... But apparently it's an open ended thing that is completely open to interpretation.



So enny-way.. The floor is now yours! Using some of these facts, please do explain how most perpetrators of child (sexual) abuse are not p3dophiles. Help us out here and clear up some of the confusion bro...

Misc what say you?
He's prolly a student of the sickos that use the term MAP, Minor Attracted Person.


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post 1680042273 04-02-2023, 08:58 AM
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I used to listen to Loveline radio show with Dr Drew and Adam Carolla when I was younger and they used to mock JLCs stance.

They use to say “Rape: ‘It’s a crime about power’… where you come.”

Basically joking that these people ignore the entire sexual aspect of the crime.


Anyways here’s the definition of pe0do

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object
specifically : a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child


By definition JLC is wrong.





The only thing that JLC said that has any merit is that many ped0s were also victims themselves when they were younger. That trauma can sort of “rewire” your brain. Unfortunately many people that experience trauma like go out a recreate that experience later in life.

For that, I do have some sympathy for the person. But it also makes it even more clear that we have to remove these people from society before they can “infect” others. It’s like a virus.
post 1680042293 04-02-2023, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Chowboy
He's prolly a student of the sickos that use the term MAP, Minor Attracted Person.


Sick.
No.

My point is that only being concerned with p3dophiles will miss the majority of child abusers.
post 1680042323 04-02-2023, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Source: trust me, bro.
This.




They asked the people who sexually assaulted kids and the perpetrators said they weren’t sexually gratified, but rather were just mentally ill so I guess that settles it.



Then again we’re talking about a guy who thinks it should be perfectly legal for adults to walk around in public completely naked in front of children.
post 1680042413 04-02-2023, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Thing is bro... nobody gives AF.

What you are doing is literally making excuses for ped0s with your psycho babble bullshiit. I mean so what if it's "opinion?" Why are you so determined to explain this?

Tbh though, it all makes perfect sense now. The way you fight so hard to defend the tranny and drag freaks showing their junk to children, and now this.
Hold on a minute. I think he has a point. Now fuk them for doing it and 99% of them shouldn’t be in general population. BUT abuse usually comes by the fact they were also abused and it stems from different lines other than just being attracted to minors.
post 1680042453 04-02-2023, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
All I stated was that child abuse, child sexual abuse, and child molestation are often perpetrated by individuals who are not ****philes. In my opinion, any such acts and behaviours are inexcusable and deplorable regardless of the psychological profile of the perpetrator.
Everyone going to ignore this post? I have no idea who JLC is but ALOT of sexual crimes stems from other things then just being attracted to minors. A lot of it is also family oriented and not random. If someone is sexually abused they have an extremely high rate of also becoming the abuser.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
No.

My point is that only being concerned with p3dophiles will miss the majority of child abusers.
That’s like saying “by only being concerned with murderer, you’ll miss the majority of people that kill people without cause.”

It’s redundant. It’s the same thing.
post 1680042683 04-02-2023, 09:14 AM
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Let's shut this down with some logic.
Most perpetrators are other kids(opportunistic), not adults(predatory).
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
This.




They asked the people who sexually assaulted kids and the perpetrators said they weren’t sexually gratified, but rather were just mentally ill so I guess that settles it.



Then again we’re talking about a guy who thinks it should be perfectly legal for adults to walk around in public completely naked in front of children.
That's not my take.
post 1680042973 04-02-2023, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Bigbuster1
That’s like saying “by only being concerned with murderer, you’ll miss the majority of people that kill people without cause.”

It’s redundant. It’s the same thing.
Incorrect.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Let's shut this down with some logic.
Most perpetrators are other kids(opportunistic), not adults(predatory).
I don't know the numbers or if what you said is true.

I do know when my wife worked in child welfare, there was quite a bit of 6, 8 and even 13 year olds abusing 2,3,4 and 5 year olds. Those older kids were also previously abused. One case had a 4 year old abuse a 2 year old because he was doing what was done to him.

However, once you hit 20+, there's only one solution.
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post 1680043913 04-02-2023, 09:48 AM
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J.L.C is proof that psychology should have died with Carl Jung.

He’s also proof that liberals should be banned from academic institutions.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
That's not my take.
You’re against laws that prohibit public nudity, so yes, that is your take.
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Originally Posted By TheFornicator1
J.L.C is proof that psychology should have died with Carl Jung.

He’s also proof that liberals should be banned from academic institutions.
How so?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
You’re against laws that prohibit public nudity, so yes, that is your take.
Nope.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Nope.
So when did you change your mind?
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Originally Posted By chalup
Everyone going to ignore this post? I have no idea who JLC is but ALOT of sexual crimes stems from other things than just being attracted to minors. A lot of it is also family oriented and not random.If someone is sexually abused they have an extremely high rate of also becoming the abuser.
That doesn’t mean that they aren’t sexually attracted to kids or that they don’t get off on molesting them. Lots of things in people’s lives influence their sexual preferences and behaviors, so it seems reasonable to realize being sexually abused as a kid would greatly influence a person and make them much more likely to engage in that act/enjoy it from the other side of the equation. There could be lots of reasons for them doing it, but it seems disingenuous to write off the sexual aspect of it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
By definition opinions and facts are objectively different things.

Child (sexual) abuse is more often perpetrated by people with psychological disorders other than a sexual attraction for minors.

Similar to how rape is not usually primarily motivated by sexual attraction or being horny.
So by that logic, they shouldn't go to prison, but a mental hospital????
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