Thread: How to deal with Jury Duty?
04-06-2023, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Tell them you're racist.
Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
Sure you'll get dismissed if the judge thinks you can't provide a unbiased opinion.Tell them you're racist and prejudiced against ugly homos they will let you off
But try going in front of the judge, with all those people in the room staring at you, and all the police officers, lawyers, etc and just blatantly tell the judge that you're racist. See how you feel about doing that
Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
Dude you just listed a bunch of reasons for why you SHOULD get out of jury duty. Most trials last more than 1 day as well.Are you fking retarded? This system is provided to us so that random regular citizens can give us a fair shot at judgement. THE ALTERNATIVE is having a court system that judges us without our input. Is that what you want? Is the simplest duty to society that difficult to follow or are you just that much of a rebel? I'll bet you like littering too because F being told to use a garbage can put there by "the man."
OP,
Jury duty is great. If you've ever watched Law and Order or any court movie you are in a front row seat for your own personal trial and all the lawyers and judges speak directly to you and show you all the evidence. It is actually a lot of fun and really interesting.UNTIL.....you get in the jury room and deliberate. Then you are stuck with a bunch of overly biased morons who can't use logic or reason. I drank heavily when I got home from that day of jury duty. The rest was cool and if you are on salary you'll probably get a free day off with pay and just have to turn in your $15 jury duty check to your work.
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Jury duty is great. If you've ever watched Law and Order or any court movie you are in a front row seat for your own personal trial and all the lawyers and judges speak directly to you and show you all the evidence. It is actually a lot of fun and really interesting.UNTIL.....you get in the jury room and deliberate. Then you are stuck with a bunch of overly biased morons who can't use logic or reason. I drank heavily when I got home from that day of jury duty. The rest was cool and if you are on salary you'll probably get a free day off with pay and just have to turn in your $15 jury duty check to your work.
Not worth the $15.
04-06-2023, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
IDK man, just lie to get out of it and you won't have to worry about some "involuntary servitude" bsJury duty is involuntary servitude, is it not?
Because the 13th Amendment abolished involuntary servitude.
Because the 13th Amendment abolished involuntary servitude.
04-06-2023, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By TheM⏩
A few years ago in my city there was so many people that no showed on jury duty one day that a judge ordered the sheriff's department to go round up those who skipped. Nothing serious happened to those that got caught but they did get dragged in to court and bitched out by the judge.I'm just ignoring mine until they threaten to put me in jail
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04-06-2023, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By THE-BEEF⏩
Isn't the judge suppose to stand for justice?A few years ago in my city there was so many people that no showed on jury duty one day that a judge ordered the sheriff's department to go round up those who skipped. Nothing serious happened to those that got caught but they did get dragged in to court and bitched out by the judge.
Who was 13th amendment?
What kind of judge rounds people up like it's auschwitz?
04-06-2023, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By THE-BEEF⏩
So the judge infringed on their rights and also bitched them out?A few years ago in my city there was so many people that no showed on jury duty one day that a judge ordered the sheriff's department to go round up those who skipped. Nothing serious happened to those that got caught but they did get dragged in to court and bitched out by the judge.
04-06-2023, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By mchabs⏩
Yes, hence why I listed the neat things and then countered it with my frustrations. Try getting a position that pays you a salary and then you don't have to worry about the $15 pittance. I got paid for all three days on the jury at my normal rate. It was a free vacation day and I got off earlier than I normally would at work....except for the last day with the deliberations. Dude was totally guilty, I caught him on a number of lies in his story. But when you have people with you on the jury that said "I just don't like the police and I don't trust them so I'd say not guilty no matter what."Dude you just listed a bunch of reasons for why you SHOULD get out of jury duty. Most trials last more than 1 day as well. Not worth the $15.
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I've gotten the letter to appear 6 times but never selected for the actual jury. I am lucky to have family that works higher up in local law enforcement and prosecution so I am booted out of selection pretty quick.
You will have to answer a bunch of questions about yourself and who you know. If either side doesn't like you answers you will not get picked.
You will have to answer a bunch of questions about yourself and who you know. If either side doesn't like you answers you will not get picked.
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04-06-2023, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
It's less than minimum wage here. Total slave wage.Yes, hence why I listed the neat things and then countered it with my frustrations. Try getting a position that pays you a salary and then you don't have to worry about the $15 pittance. I got paid for all three days on the jury at my normal rate. It was a free vacation day and I got off earlier than I normally would at work....except for the last day with the deliberations. Dude was totally guilty, I caught him on a number of lies in his story. But when you have people with you on the jury that said "I just don't like the police and I don't trust them so I'd say not guilty no matter what."
But even if they paid you $100 per day, it is still involuntary servitude.
04-06-2023, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By THE-BEEF⏩
Do you think forcing people to do jury duty is fair?I've gotten the letter to appear 6 times but never selected for the actual jury. I am lucky to have family that works higher up in local law enforcement and prosecution so I am booted out of selection pretty quick.
You will have to answer a bunch of questions about yourself and who you know. If either side doesn't like you answers you will not get picked.
You will have to answer a bunch of questions about yourself and who you know. If either side doesn't like you answers you will not get picked.
04-06-2023, 03:42 PM
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The Supreme Court has long held that the "involuntary servitude" prohibited by the 13th Amendment was intended to extend "to cover those forms of compulsory labor akin to African slavery which in practical operation would tend to produce like undesirable results." Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328, 332 (1916). Jury service is hardly that. More specifically, the Court has recognized that “the prohibition against involuntary servitude does not prevent the State or Federal Governments from compelling their citizens, by threat of criminal sanction, to perform certain civic duties. See Hurtado v. United States, 410 U.S. 578, 589, n. 11 (1973) (jury service); Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366, 390 (1918) (military service); Butler v. Perry, supra (roadwork).” United States v. Kozminski, 487 U.S. 931, 943–4 (1988).
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04-06-2023, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Isn't the judge suppose to stand for justice?
Who was 13th amendment?
What kind of judge rounds people up like it's auschwitz?
Who was 13th amendment?
What kind of judge rounds people up like it's auschwitz?
Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
It had been an ongoing issue and the judge had enough. Judge called it contempt of court. Made a big show if it to the press. It was fuking dumb. Judge just had to wave his dick around.So the judge infringed on their rights and also bitched them out?
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04-06-2023, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
Oh so it's only involuntary servitude if it's a black guy?The Supreme Court has long held that the "involuntary servitude" prohibited by the 13th Amendment was intended to extend "to cover those forms of compulsory labor akin to African slavery which in practical operation would tend to produce like undesirable results." Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328, 332 (1916). Jury service is hardly that. More specifically, the Court has recognized that “the prohibition against involuntary servitude does not prevent the State or Federal Governments from compelling their citizens, by threat of criminal sanction, to perform certain civic duties. See Hurtado v. United States, 410 U.S. 578, 589, n. 11 (1973) (jury service); Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366, 390 (1918) (military service); Butler v. Perry, supra (roadwork).” United States v. Kozminski, 487 U.S. 931, 943–4 (1988).
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04-06-2023, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted By THE-BEEF⏩
The judge should be held in contempt of the Constitution.It had been an ongoing issue and the judge had enough. Judge called it contempt of court. Made a big show if it to the press. It was fuking dumb. Judge just had to wave his dick around.
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04-06-2023, 03:48 PM
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I had it last year but the guy plead before they even started selection. Was job searching at the time so it was an easy 12$ for 3hrs lol
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04-06-2023, 03:51 PM
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Just go and do it.
If you don't go, you have to STFU about the criminal justice system in future.
It's like people not voting and then complaining about politicians.
If you don't go, you have to STFU about the criminal justice system in future.
It's like people not voting and then complaining about politicians.
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04-06-2023, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
Voting is voluntary.Just go and do it.
If you don't go, you have to STFU about the criminal justice system in future.
It's like people not voting and then complaining about politicians.
If you don't go, you have to STFU about the criminal justice system in future.
It's like people not voting and then complaining about politicians.
Jury duty is not.
04-06-2023, 03:57 PM
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I went and was the only one not selected out of the first twenty-something jurors. Pretty sure it’s because one of the defense attorneys asked about how we felt about government regulation and I was the only person that went up to speak my opinion when offered and I went on a pseudo unhinged miscer anti-government rant on the microphone.
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04-06-2023, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By 300Lane1⏩
Is option 1 legal?You really have 3 options..
1) Act like you never received the jury summons
2) Hope it gets excused
3) Show up and act like you care and hope you don't get selected.
1) Act like you never received the jury summons
2) Hope it gets excused
3) Show up and act like you care and hope you don't get selected.
Do I have the right to remain silent?
04-06-2023, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost⏩
What did you say?I went and was the only one not selected out of the first twenty-something jurors. Pretty sure it’s because one of the defense attorneys asked about how we felt about government regulation and I was the only person that went up to speak my opinion when offered and I went on a pseudo unhinged miscer anti-government rant on the microphone.
04-06-2023, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
"the prohibition against involuntary servitude does not prevent the State or Federal Governments from compelling their citizens, by threat of criminal sanction, to perform certain civic duties."The Supreme Court has long held that the "involuntary servitude" prohibited by the 13th Amendment was intended to extend "to cover those forms of compulsory labor akin to African slavery which in practical operation would tend to produce like undesirable results." Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328, 332 (1916). Jury service is hardly that. More specifically, the Court has recognized that “the prohibition against involuntary servitude does not prevent the State or Federal Governments from compelling their citizens, by threat of criminal sanction, to perform certain civic duties. See Hurtado v. United States, 410 U.S. 578, 589, n. 11 (1973) (jury service); Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366, 390 (1918) (military service); Butler v. Perry, supra (roadwork).” United States v. Kozminski, 487 U.S. 931, 943–4 (1988).
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How is that constitutional? Explain
Because it would seem that's exactly what the 13th Amendment would protect us against.
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost⏩
I went and was the only one not selected out of the first twenty-something jurors. Pretty sure it’s because one of the defense attorneys asked about how we felt about government regulation and I was the only person that went up to speak my opinion when offered and I went on a pseudo unhinged miscer anti-government rant on the microphone.
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
I do have a salary position that pays for jury duty. Still don't want to be thereYes, hence why I listed the neat things and then countered it with my frustrations. Try getting a position that pays you a salary and then you don't have to worry about the $15 pittance. I got paid for all three days on the jury at my normal rate. It was a free vacation day and I got off earlier than I normally would at work....except for the last day with the deliberations. Dude was totally guilty, I caught him on a number of lies in his story. But when you have people with you on the jury that said "I just don't like the police and I don't trust them so I'd say not guilty no matter what."
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