Thread: What is fascism?
05-06-2023, 07:39 PM
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Mussolini took control of the Catholic Church and was controlling who got married. Before that, all evidence says he was atheist and was very vocal against the church.
His views are very well documented and easily accessible through books. State control of churches = fascism.
His views are very well documented and easily accessible through books. State control of churches = fascism.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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05-06-2023, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I agree take the state out of church entirely. No tax benefits to churches. Any income should be reported.Mussolini took control of the Catholic Church and was controlling who got married. Before that, all evidence says he was atheist and was very vocal against the church.
His views are very well documented and easily accessible through books. State control of churches = fascism.
His views are very well documented and easily accessible through books. State control of churches = fascism.
05-06-2023, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
For what purpose? So you can control it? No thanks fascist. Is it separate or not? You can't seem to make up your mind. Sounds like greed and materialism.I Any income should be reported.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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05-06-2023, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Ok then church should be declared unclaimed territory, void of US law. You make up your mind. Why does every other organization get taxed?For what purpose? So you can control it? No thanks. Is it separate or not? You can't seem to make up your mind.
If we do it your way, we will need to defend our borders and strictly vet everyone who goes in and out of churches. We'll also need to surround churches with soldiers in case they might invade us.
05-06-2023, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
You lost me.Ok then church should be declared unclaimed territory, void of US law. You make up your mind. Why does every other organization get taxed?
If we do it your way, we will need to defend our borders and strictly vet everyone who goes in and out of churches. We'll also need to surround churches with soldiers in case they might invade us.
If we do it your way, we will need to defend our borders and strictly vet everyone who goes in and out of churches. We'll also need to surround churches with soldiers in case they might invade us.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
05-06-2023, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Wants all the govt protections without paying for them lulYou lost me.
05-06-2023, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Still not following.Wants all the govt protections without paying for them lul
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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05-06-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
low iqStill not following.
05-06-2023, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
You just describes the garden variety Republican.
Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
Absolute retard takes. Imagine my shockAll those sentences just so OP can break out his racism “softly”.
A common feature of the maga party. “Soft core” racism underneath the veil of “nationalism”.
Bravo OP. Let that tiki torch shine brightly into the night.
A common feature of the maga party. “Soft core” racism underneath the veil of “nationalism”.
Bravo OP. Let that tiki torch shine brightly into the night.
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05-06-2023, 08:55 PM
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05-06-2023, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
A church is a group of individual tax payers using their already taxed money, with which they can choose to do what they please on private property. Taxing or interfering at all with a church and its money would be a fascist tactic.low iq
In fact, currently the federal government is in violation of federal law that prevents them funding planned parenthood. They are stealing money from small businesses and giving it to planned parenthood. That’s the kind of corruption the government and it’s agencies would have on churches if they could.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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05-06-2023, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Except churches often provide goods and services. Explain to me why a church is exempt, but a comedy club or theater isn't. They are essentially the same thing.A church is a group of individual tax payers using their already taxed money, with which they can choose to do what they please on private property. Taxing or interfering at all with a church and its money would be a fascist tactic.
In fact, currently the federal government is in violation of federal law that prevents them funding planned parenthood. They are stealing money from small businesses and giving it to planned parenthood. That’s the kind of corruption the government and it’s agencies would have on churches if they could.
In fact, currently the federal government is in violation of federal law that prevents them funding planned parenthood. They are stealing money from small businesses and giving it to planned parenthood. That’s the kind of corruption the government and it’s agencies would have on churches if they could.
05-06-2023, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
lmao the fuk is this nazi chit?
05-06-2023, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
You are out there. This sounds like envy and narcissism. Why do you care so much about something that doesn't affect you?Except churches often provide goods and services. Explain to me why a church is exempt, but a comedy club or theater isn't. They are essentially the same thing.
It sounds like people like you are the reason we need to keep them separate.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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05-06-2023, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
lmao envy except they get effectively subsidized by taxpayersYou are out there. This sounds like envy and narcissism. Why do you care so much about something that doesn't affect you?
It sounds like people like you are the reason we need to keep them separate.
It sounds like people like you are the reason we need to keep them separate.
so much for muh church and state bruh
05-07-2023, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
True!Neither Franco nor Mussolini were " ultra secular" they both had ample support from the catholic Church...
I'm surprised tbh that you claim fascists to be seculars with so much historical evidence of the contrary.
I'm surprised tbh that you claim fascists to be seculars with so much historical evidence of the contrary.
https://www.amazon.com/God-Fascists-.../dp/B00CCOO6WU
Now available in English for the first time, a controversial work that indicts the Vatican for its actions before and during World War II.In the decade preceding the outbreak of World War II, the Vatican made a devil's bargain with fascist leaders. Anticipating that their regimes would eliminate a common enemy—namely Marxist-Leninist communism—two popes essentially collaborated with Hitler, Mussolini, and the fascist dictators in Spain (Franco) and Croatia (Pavelić)...
05-07-2023, 01:08 AM
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08-10-2023, 11:11 PM
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-Trying to imprison your political rival(s) on highly exaggerated charges
-Giving vast sums of money to the private sector so they'll manufacture what you dictate
-Trying to make more of the populace dependent on and loyal to the state
-Throwing around insane amounts of money into a half-assed war, for long standing personal grievances
-Using executive powers to give money to favored ethnic or racial groups
-Bribing other countries with aid if they'll do something that favors your family
-Having almost no media cover your brazen crimes
Thing is, Biden's too demented to be a fascist. Dude's brain is clots and empty spaces. But the Deep State in the US, who are controlling him like a marionette doll certainly are doing things you expect in a fascist society, with a complicit corporate media who are slavish to their advertisers.
A fair example would actually be modern China. "Communists" don't do capitalism. Fascists do state-run capitalism, where private property can exist, but where the government still is the one managing the economy.
-Giving vast sums of money to the private sector so they'll manufacture what you dictate
-Trying to make more of the populace dependent on and loyal to the state
-Throwing around insane amounts of money into a half-assed war, for long standing personal grievances
-Using executive powers to give money to favored ethnic or racial groups
-Bribing other countries with aid if they'll do something that favors your family
-Having almost no media cover your brazen crimes
Thing is, Biden's too demented to be a fascist. Dude's brain is clots and empty spaces. But the Deep State in the US, who are controlling him like a marionette doll certainly are doing things you expect in a fascist society, with a complicit corporate media who are slavish to their advertisers.
A fair example would actually be modern China. "Communists" don't do capitalism. Fascists do state-run capitalism, where private property can exist, but where the government still is the one managing the economy.
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08-10-2023, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
If you read the works of Mises, he doesn't differentiate between socialism and fascism, but instead just refers to most, if not all of it, socialist.OP, I've long thought that Qtardism and more generally, modern conservatism, has very similar structural features to fascism.
Do you agree?
Do you agree?
That out of the way, he stated something that struck a chord with me; "Regulations are socialism disguised as capitalism".
Traditional conservativism would consist of getting rid of 3 old policies that weren't effective, and trying 1 new policy. It was pretty standard to do massive deregulation once a conservative is elected, before they implemented any regulations at all. Truthfully, the only president to really do that in many decades was Trump.
The other issue, and we have the receipts to prove this, is that the congress has a tremendous power in policy and a dem congress can push through a lot of regulations. Even with a conservative president, the deficit and regulations tend to sky rocket under a dem congress.
Back to the point though, recent "conservative" presidents have been socialist. In fact, Mises called our politicians socialists back in the 80s and was outraged by their comments.
Mises convinced me we haven't been a capitalist country since the 50s or even before. We have far too much interference to even come close.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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08-11-2023, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Yeah, communism and fascism are both socialist. I feel a little sorry for people who don't realize that, and feel sorry for those who think only of the Nazi's obsession around Jews as the defining characteristic of fascism (though it's worth mentioning Karl Marx's disliked Jews and blacks, which gets a blind eye from Left leaners). It sucks but Presidents no matter the party want to take the easy route, which usually means pleasing the most people most of the time over what's good for the long-term. That leads to socialist like actions, or at least conceding to them.If you read the works of Mises, he doesn't differentiate between socialism and fascism, but instead just refers to most, if not all of it, socialist.
That out of the way, he stated something that struck a chord with me; "Regulations are socialism disguised as capitalism".
Traditional conservativism would consist of getting rid of 3 old policies that weren't effective, and trying 1 new policy. It was pretty standard to do massive deregulation once a conservative is elected, before they implemented any regulations at all. Truthfully, the only president to really do that in many decades was Trump.
The other issue, and we have the receipts to prove this, is that the congress has a tremendous power in policy and a dem congress can push through a lot of regulations. Even with a conservative president, the deficit and regulations tend to sky rocket under a dem congress.
Back to the point though, recent "conservative" presidents have been socialist. In fact, Mises called our politicians socialists back in the 80s and was outraged by their comments.
Mises convinced me we haven't been a capitalist country since the 50s or even before. We have far too much interference to even come close.
That out of the way, he stated something that struck a chord with me; "Regulations are socialism disguised as capitalism".
Traditional conservativism would consist of getting rid of 3 old policies that weren't effective, and trying 1 new policy. It was pretty standard to do massive deregulation once a conservative is elected, before they implemented any regulations at all. Truthfully, the only president to really do that in many decades was Trump.
The other issue, and we have the receipts to prove this, is that the congress has a tremendous power in policy and a dem congress can push through a lot of regulations. Even with a conservative president, the deficit and regulations tend to sky rocket under a dem congress.
Back to the point though, recent "conservative" presidents have been socialist. In fact, Mises called our politicians socialists back in the 80s and was outraged by their comments.
Mises convinced me we haven't been a capitalist country since the 50s or even before. We have far too much interference to even come close.
Just to show how off people can be I remember hit pieces accusing Ron Paul of being fascist. "The free market is fascist" and "free market means giant corporations take over everything" trash rhetoric. Typing said comments from their Iphones, while drinking at Starbucks.
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