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post 1683654703 05-30-2023, 08:22 AM
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Cannot drink milk straight, but I can have it in things like shortbread or roses chocolates without too many issues. Have a stuffy nose all year round-so makes no odds to me.
post 1683654833 05-30-2023, 08:24 AM
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I drink milk everyday
post 1683655213 05-30-2023, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By PowerPal
how do I get calcium with out dairy? All my RDA are 300%+ on cronometer while calcium is a pathetic 20% without dairy added.

I did egg shells once and got sick lol. Boiled and baked them, grinded and everything. never again
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post 1683655403 05-30-2023, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By PowerPal
how do I get calcium with out dairy? All my RDA are 300%+ on cronometer while calcium is a pathetic 20% without dairy added.

I did egg shells once and got sick lol. Boiled and baked them, grinded and everything. never again
I just take calcium and magnesium supplements. I've never had my levels checked or anything but it's easy to get at least the minimum RDA
post 1683655623 05-30-2023, 08:42 AM
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These the same dietitians pushing soy, almond, etc milks?

Cause if so...
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post 1683655813 05-30-2023, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By PowerPal
seems like a universal thing no matter what their diet plan is, no dairy is always there. yet every time i give it all up I feel lower energy and not optimal, start getting a stuffy nose. 10 min after a glass of milk I feel 10x better and can breathe better
If you are a Teen or child Drink whole Milk mixed with Ovaltine before bed every day, if you are a grown adult milk does jack for you, Id say give it up once you hit 25 years old but milk is very important for a growing child and teen it helped me grow when I would drink milk ovaltine combo before bed.
post 1683655873 05-30-2023, 08:47 AM
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Dairy is goat. Milk is one my favorite drink srs. Ice cream is my favorite dessert. I would bathe in Cheese fondue if I could
post 1683655883 05-30-2023, 08:47 AM
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I like the taste but its fkin high calorie
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post 1683656003 05-30-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By snowergrower
I heard pasteurisation is bad for you.
Cheese is the best man.
How? Pasteurization is just heating up the milk to a point that it kills some (not all) of the bacteria so it doesn't spoil so fast.
post 1683656063 05-30-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
How? Pasteurization is just heating up the milk to a point that it kills some (not all) of the bacteria so it doesn't spoil so fast.
I don't know but regular milk upsets my stomach very easily, raw milk does not. Plus the taste....
post 1683656643 05-30-2023, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea
It is hardly scientific, but one doctors observations about milk helped me to cut out dairy from my diet. This is back in the 1960s I believe when a doctor asked his patients to stop consuming all dairy products, milk, cheese, yogurt, etc. Most patients took his diet advice and the doctor began charting the health differences of his two patient groups, those that ate dairy and those that do not. What he found in the non dairy consuming group had fewer infections, Appendicitis disappeared, greatly fewer non dairy eating patients required hospitalization for various reasons. He was averaging over 100 patients a year requiring hospital needs and that dropped to around 10 a year after most stopped eating dairy. He had other listed changes but that is what comes to mind.

What make me wonder too though is that dairy products are typically consumed with wheat, such as pizza, cookies, breakfast cereal, etc. You give up dairy you are typically giving up eating wheat.

Anyway, we're all different. I have a stomach condition and so I'm always fiddling with my diet to try and improve my stomach. I imagine most people are fine consuming dairy products.
Originally Posted By PowerPal
it's the same for gluten free. Cut out gluten, you're cutting out 90% of process foods, no more take out, no more beer, no chit you're going to feel better.Was it the gluten? probably not since you don't have celiac disease. but yeah it's crazy how much wheat and dairy go together lol, the only time I have bread is with butter on it occasionally
I feel the same way about the connection made between meat consumption and chronic illness in the US. It isn't the beef or chicken that gets people IMO...it's if that beef or chicken is part of a meal with a lot of highly processed excess sugar trash.

I enjoy a burger with a few fries and sometimes even soda, but it's a "sometimes food". If the majority of the people in your survey who report more servings of meat per day/week consume 10+ meals of burgers, nuggets, taco, pizza, etc. you can't just point to the meat as the culprit.
Originally Posted By kusok
Most people feel better when they give up dairy, dairy has bacteria that can contribute to irritating your sinuses, and so people start having things like eczema, allergies, of course most people have some degree of lactose intolerance as well, A1 protein found in most American milk is not correct for the human body, so switching to a2 is better, and better yet to goat dairy tends to relieve digestion issues,

in your case, if you feel worse without dairy, it means you’re not getting calcium from any other source, and possibly also not replacing the calories protein and fat as well as glycogen from other sources.

Also, you never had actual dairy, you are just consuming boiled processed chemical garbage from your store,
Definitely a YMMV food.
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post 1683656913 05-30-2023, 09:09 AM
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I have a relative who stopped drinking milk when he was a toddler, and he grew up to be 5 feet tall if he was lucky. During growing years, milk is important. All of his brothers are taller than him, and they drank milk.
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post 1683657023 05-30-2023, 09:11 AM
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Remember when big sugar said saturated fats caused high cholesterol but it turns out they paid off scientists?
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post 1683657103 05-30-2023, 09:12 AM
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What those health guru are ignorant of is that process of pasteurization.

They aren't against dairy. They are against dairy that has gone through pasteurization.

Pasteurization is what kills all the good bacteria and enzymes that make dairy nature's perfect food in the first place.

The milk and dairy industry in the West has been jew'd beyond belief. So yes, those health gurus are right when it comes to that. Pasteurized milk that is present in all your baby formula is the reason kids in the West grow up with all sorts of ****ed up allergies and health problems.

The kids who are lucky enough to grow up drinking unpasteurized milk and cheese in Europe are the lucky ones.
post 1683657113 05-30-2023, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Doober4
Remember when big sugar said saturated fats caused high cholesterol but it turns out they paid off scientists?


There is an Adam ruins everything episode on that, I bought it on iTunes
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post 1683657343 05-30-2023, 09:16 AM
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