Yeah I can’t do the cardio recommendations either. If I happen to do cardio twice a week, it’s like 30 minutes and maybe one high intensity session on top of lifting 4 times a week. And my daily steps from walking are about 9000 steps just regular living. So I guess we’ll be screwed at eighty.

There’s no way in hell I can follow those recommendation unless I quit my job and just exercised full time srs.

I also feel like I’d injure myself pretty quickly if I tried to do that much intense cardio in addition to strength training.

Also, BRB just become an elite-level athlete with elite VO2 Max and you’ll live longer LOL no chit

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According to him you wont be screwed but you won't maintain the *same* level of ability that you have now


It is crazy, but I guess that's how hunters gatherers lived? I don't know, but I'm trying to implement more and more cardio in my routine now

Hunter gatherers did cardio..a lot, and they didn’t have always food available. Doing too much cardio slows metabolism because your body has to adjust, especially with low calories. Lifting is so much better because it does the opposite and muscle is glucose disposal so you can get away with eating crap occasionally. Much better for fat loss and body composition too.

yeah eating in a caloric deficit (eating less in general) seem to be good for longevity. yeah lifting is great, but this guy has just put 'doing more cardio' in my head...

Not like you have any big plans anyways homie. You cried and fisted yourself in the other thread saying you have no special talents and that you do fuk all. Not sure if you or the other guy saying paying rent left you with 300$. If you really plan to do fuk all and just simply exist filling up space what's the point? Send that water/electricity to someone who really needs it.

You don't have to do 4 1 hour cardio sessions to improve your VO2 Max though lol. That's why I don't get this guy. For most people, they're better off lifting frequently and doing some HIIT on non-leg days. This dude also preaches about grip strength but I don't believe I saw him in his book mention simple deadlift, squat, bench, etc. (I've read Outlive FWIW - huge health/wellness nerd) standards that most everyone can hit with basic training and dedication (not even talking about being an "advanced" lifter by powerlifting standards).

I've kind of realized all these health authors need to come up with weird principles to sell their books because living healthy/well isn't sexy or complicated in theory - it's difficult in execution because it's boring and takes months to reveal results. But worrying about, for example, a 2 minute dead hang when most people can't even squat 185 is retarded and gives these guys less credibility IMO. This guy was also a ketocel until he (to his credit) admitted how retarded that diet is.

yeah man, good points.


Grip strength is used in research because it's easy to measure/quantify, he and the people who use it are aware that it's not the cause of strength but usually an indication that someone is engaged in some form of resistance training.


The VO2Max stuff i'm not yet clear on, it seems that it's incredibly challenging to increase this capacity past a certain point, I wanna dig deeper into it


I think there is a point of diminishing returns for lifting specially for compound lifts but I enjoy it and will hopefully lift till the day I die,

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Fark... I should have died some time ago.

It's way less complicated than that. Japan's average life expectancy is almost 8 years longer than ours and they eat a ton of carbs and don't really adhere to much else of what you suggest.

-avoid being obese
-avoid know poisons (alcohol, tobacco, street drugs)
-prioritize recovery from stress and emotional health
-bonus points if you're not forced to consume a bunch of chemicals in your water and food supply because your government hates its people