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post 1684480043 06-12-2023, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
They won because they had better conditioning and better training.
fukn lol thats hilarious
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post 1684481713 06-12-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
I haven't watched the vid but ive seen dudes hop on juice and they get thicker, but they still look meh, where as some dudes, usually the scrawny guy with natural abs and defined pecs, turns to goku.

Ive also seen dudes who are mid, get on gear and a serious diet and they look legit, still don't have the sickening waist, shoulders and definition as the genetically gifted tho.

I feel like the guys in gear who look worse are seriously fukin up their diet and/or the chemicals are harming their health
Can't deny I do look a lot better when I eat healthie, leaner and more full at the same time; work makes it hard at times. I guess everything makes an impact and when you're top tier every littler bit makes a difference.
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post 1684481793 06-12-2023, 12:59 PM
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Where's the other 10%?
post 1684482003 06-12-2023, 01:01 PM
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According to an "almost" pro BB who practically knows every BB coach and has witnessed other bb's train, gear is just 10%

Before you 170lbs fukrs say anything he was the most knowledgeable person ever
post 1684485353 06-12-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
fukn lol thats hilarious
keep coping then if you think they only win due to genetics.


The mr. olympia runner up has 10/10 genetics, the difference in what is achievable for BBer's at that level due to genetics is miniscule. The only reason one looks better than the other is because they put in better work.
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post 1684485673 06-12-2023, 02:05 PM
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82% genetics, 18% diet 2% lifting. If you don't have the genetics for it nothing will save you.
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post 1684486093 06-12-2023, 02:11 PM
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im going to be a contrarian and say that genetics and training > Diet srs

If you have good enough genetics, you can eat anything. I was just slamming big macs and protein shakes when I looked like this

post 1684486223 06-12-2023, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By wrassler45⏩
According to an "almost" pro BB who practically knows every BB coach and has witnessed other bb's train, gear is just 10%

Before you 170lbs fukrs say anything he was the most knowledgeable person ever
then what % is training and what % is diet?

Many in the ov 35 said it was 70/20/10
70% diet for contest shape/20% training/10% genetics
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post 1684486423 06-12-2023, 02:18 PM
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Breaking this down into percentages is pointless...

You NEED a caloric deficit to get leaner, enough protein to gain or retain muscle, & a small surplus to gain past a point. You NEED to train regularly with progressive overload and sufficient intensity to keep progressing. Everything else essentially comes down to genetics &/or drugs. Micromananging your diet beyond this will make close to no difference, and the same goes for training.
post 1684486763 06-12-2023, 02:23 PM
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This implies that for things which are under our control, its 62.5% Diet an 37.5% training.
post 1684488423 06-12-2023, 02:53 PM
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In terms of how you look, muscle insertions, fat storage, all that stuff I agree although I think diet and training are about equal. Especially genetic response to steroids it needs to be high to have a chance at a pro level physique

As far as just being in shape and “healthy” though I disagree genetics has that big of a role

Also diet and training are the only two of what was mentioned that we can control so thinking about your genetics is kind of a waste of time. You gotta play with the cards you are dealt
post 1684488793 06-12-2023, 02:59 PM
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Genetics is a cop out, I've known guys who trained bench press for a month and said they reached their genetic limitation because the the weight wouldn't go up anymore, they went from benching like 70 lbs to benching 100 lbs.

Before I knew anything about proper training and diet my go to excuse for why someone was bigger and stronger than me was that my genetics were worse, you starve anyone long enough and they will resemble an ectomorph.

There shouldn't be a seperate rating for diet and training, if I didn't eat a specific diet for training my diet would be all garbage food with almost no protein, and mostly fat/sugar/sodium, and I would eat twice a day most of the time and be about 150 lbs.

And you can't simply eat a proper diet and not train, most people would just be fat or skinny/skinny fat.

If I had to guess how good my genetics were before I started training I would have said bottom tier, now that I now how to properly train and diet I can see how genetics is mostly cope and is mostly irrelavent unless its coming down to who has a better bicep peak on a bodybuilding stage or something similar, literally everyone has the capability of building an amazing physique.
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post 1684531543 06-13-2023, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
then what % is training and what % is diet?

Many in the ov 35 said it was 70/20/10
70% diet for contest shape/20% training/10% genetics
Could you not pick up the sarcasm and jab at Jestbrah?
post 1684533293 06-13-2023, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By wrassler45⏩
Could you not pick up the sarcasm and jab at Jestbrah?
Sorry..... i thought you had some good info to share, my bad.
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post 1684533613 06-13-2023, 08:24 AM
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Actually, it’s 0% genetics and 100% diet and exercise, because one can easily look like **** with great genetics, just as one can certainly find appropriate diet and exercise to look good with any genetics outside of obvious birth defects.
post 1684533893 06-13-2023, 08:28 AM
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I just saw a weight management specialist Dr. and he said it's:

1. Medication -- Wegovy or Ozempic to help those with genetics for obesity
2. Diet - 100g of protein, 1500 calories and 100 carbs a day for those who don't have eating disorders
3. Exercise - 5x a week 70% lifting 30% cardio
4. Water - 64 ounces a day
5. Fiber - 30 g a day
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