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post 1684476663 06-12-2023, 11:32 AM
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60% Genetics, 25% Diet, 15% Training

Ones physique is 60% Genetics, 25% Diet, 15% Training

Agree?
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post 1684476813 06-12-2023, 11:34 AM
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This is cope from lazy cucks that don’t train hard and hop on gear, blaming their genetics
post 1684476973 06-12-2023, 11:37 AM
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post 1684477003 06-12-2023, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
This is cope from lazy cucks that don’t train hard and hop on gear, blaming their genetics
Be honest, you know its true, ive been gifted with good gene, my diet is pretty good and i hardly train. still look better than serious lifters
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post 1684477143 06-12-2023, 11:39 AM
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Imo lot more training

33 diet 33 genetics 33 training

A guy going to the gym everyday will look a lot different than a guy who does not train at all similair genetics / similair diet
post 1684477173 06-12-2023, 11:39 AM
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post 1684477203 06-12-2023, 11:40 AM
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training is more important than diet but I agree genetics is most important.
post 1684477293 06-12-2023, 11:41 AM
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60% genetics is cope.

genetics play a role in whether or not you can have elite aesthetics but basically anyone can have an insane physique compared to the population, with training and diet.
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post 1684477303 06-12-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
training is more important than diet but I agree genetics is most important.
WHAT?! I think it's diet more important than training...the skinny dudes who play pick-up basketball and never lift a single weight look way better than most gymcels
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post 1684477323 06-12-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
This is cope from lazy cucks that don’t train hard and hop on gear, blaming their genetics
So the reason phil heath, Ronnie Coleman and cbum have won year after year after year is because they work hard ?

Compared to the rest of the competitors, who are dying before stepping on stage ?

Typical stupid incel ****** take, dirty streetchitting loser
post 1684477403 06-12-2023, 11:42 AM
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Almost agree, add in genetic response to intramuscular chemicals.
Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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post 1684477583 06-12-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
60% genetics is cope.

genetics play a role in whether or not you can have elite aesthetics but basically anyone can have an insane physique compared to the population, with training and diet.
60% genetics only makes sense if you look at it from a top 1% perspective. You can't become Mr Olympia without top tier genetics. But for your average gym goer genetics definitely don't make up 60% of the equation.
post 1684477683 06-12-2023, 11:47 AM
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Cope. It's

60% Diet
25% Training
10% Genetics
5% Luck/Circumstance

I used to be a little bish who would whine about not being "talented", but the fact is you can get to the 85th or 90th percentile in most anything if you work hard enough at it. Genetics only matter at the elite level where everyone is being coached with the best techniques and working hard is table stakes. To become legendary, you need a lot of right-place-right-time type of events in addition to working crazy hard, being talented, taking care of yourself on/off the court, etc.

Also, diet is way more important than training in the context of bodybuilding. You can train all you want, but you won't get abs if you don't eat well, for example. I'm actually lifting less but look better and am still making strength gains at lower BWs because I've cleaned my diet up a lot.
post 1684477763 06-12-2023, 11:50 AM
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Meh....

IMO everybody will have a different formula for success , where most people fail is sticking with it long enough to find out what works for them and what doesnt . If they arent some 250lb shredded kent after 6 weeks they quit...

Take me for example... I eat 3 square meals @ Chipolte every single day and can get this physic with nothing more than a shake weight & ab roller.
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post 1684477873 06-12-2023, 11:51 AM
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We have debated this since 2005 and the order goes
1. diet
2. training
3. genetics
the percentages vary based on duration of training and how strict you are to the top 3 list.
yes you can grow calves but it may take 5 years.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
post 1684477913 06-12-2023, 11:52 AM
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Its all about the genetics brahs
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post 1684477993 06-12-2023, 11:53 AM
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IMO

20% genetics
20% diet
20% training
40% genetic response to chemicals...

If not on a bike.

35% Genetics
35% Diet
30% Training

Are we adding in consistency, because that would be at least 50% no matter what.
Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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Why Teens shouldn't cut/Lack of progress thread- http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=169272763&p=1397509823#post1397509823
post 1684478043 06-12-2023, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
We have debated this since 2005 and the order goes
1. diet
2. training
3. genetics
the percentages vary based on duration of training and how strict you are to the top 3 list.
yes you can grow calves but it may take 5 years.
You are DYEL status brah so you prove my point, you can be on point in the kitchen and the gym but you'll only look as good as your genetics allow
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post 1684478053 06-12-2023, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Paulrut23⏩
WHAT?! I think it's diet more important than training...the skinny dudes who play pick-up basketball and never lift a single weight look way better than most gymcels
I was about to say the average physique at the playground on Sunday when everyone gathers to play pickup basketball looks better than the average physique at my gym
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post 1684478133 06-12-2023, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
IMO

20% genetics
20% diet
20% training
40% genetic response to chemicals...

If not on a bike.

35% Genetics
35% Diet
30% Training

Are we adding in consistency, because that would be at least 50% no matter what.
Gear is a cheat code to enhancing genetics when paired with a sickening diet and training
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post 1684478173 06-12-2023, 11:56 AM
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50% training
40% diet
10% genetics
post 1684478203 06-12-2023, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
I was about to say the average physique at the playground on Sunday when everyone gathers to play pickup basketball looks better than the average physique at my gym
And do you think those dudes have perfect diets? No, its genetic, it certainly isnt from pickup basketball...
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
60% genetics only makes sense if you look at it from a top 1% perspective. You can't become Mr Olympia without top tier genetics. But for your average gym goer genetics definitely don't make up 60% of the equation.
Exactly
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post 1684478293 06-12-2023, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
Gear is a cheat code to enhancing genetics when paired with a sickening diet and training
I mean some people blow up when biking, some less so; genetics effect that. You can take Mr. O I/M substances, and another person takes the same; one gets bigger/better.

Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
1/13/16: Massive hernia.
5/10/16: Finally back to lifting, light but improving.

Why Teens shouldn't cut/Lack of progress thread- http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=169272763&p=1397509823#post1397509823
post 1684478483 06-12-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32⏩
I mean some people blow up when biking, some less so; genetics effect that. You can take Mr. O I/M substances, and another person takes the same; one gets bigger/better.

I haven't watched the vid but ive seen dudes hop on juice and they get thicker, but they still look meh, where as some dudes, usually the scrawny guy with natural abs and defined pecs, turns to goku.

Ive also seen dudes who are mid, get on gear and a serious diet and they look legit, still don't have the sickening waist, shoulders and definition as the genetically gifted tho.

I feel like the guys in gear who look worse are seriously fukin up their diet and/or the chemicals are harming their health
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Originally Posted By lildurkk⏩
So the reason phil heath, Ronnie Coleman and cbum have won year after year after year is because they work hard ?

Compared to the rest of the competitors, who are dying before stepping on stage ?

Typical stupid incel ****** take, dirty streetchitting loser
Lmao
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
Ones physique is 60% Genetics, 25% Diet, 15% Training

Agree?
For people who train seriously who are in good shape then ye you're right the difference is gens (after training for 2 years with proper training and diet) that's 90% of ur gains ded fkn srs

To the avg population and outta shape brahs its training and diet and their weak mind
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Originally Posted By lildurkk⏩
So the reason phil heath, Ronnie Coleman and cbum have won year after year after year is because they work hard ?

Compared to the rest of the competitors, who are dying before stepping on stage ?

Typical stupid incel ****** take, dirty streetchitting loser
Not sure if srs. yes the reason they won is because they work hard.


They have insane genetics and are blasting loads of gear, but so do/are all the guys on stage with them. They won because they had better conditioning and better training.
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Bodybuilding aside, i feel like MMA is a good example. All these dudes are top level athletes, training and eating very similar, but their physiques can look entirely different.

Are paulo costa and yoel romero actually juice freaks (moreso than everyone else) that have way better diet and training then other dudes in their divisions or do they just have the genetic gift?
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
Bodybuilding aside, i feel like MMA is a good example. All these dudes are top level athletes, training and eating very similar, but their physiques can look entirely different.

Are paulo costa and yoel romero actually juice freaks (moreso than everyone else) that have way better diet and training then other dudes in their divisions or do they just have the genetic gift?


In Paulo Costa's case it's definitely the secret juice.
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