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post 1685229493 06-24-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
No, it indicates that those who are angry...
Yeah that was pretty much the crux of the problem bro.

You were manipulated by the television, your smartphone, the government, ect into hating all those who were literally killing you for not receiving the covid shot.

You are 100% correct, it was about those who are angry about not understanding the definition of vaccine.
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Originally Posted By Paul
One is definitive that a person will produce immunity to said disease. The other is not
In the form of acquired (humoral: antibodies, and cell-mediated: t-cells) immunity.

The covid vaccines do that.
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Originally Posted By Tears
Yeah that was pretty much the crux of the problem bro.

You were manipulated by the television, your smartphone, the government, ect into hating all those who were literally killing you for not receiving the covid shot.

You are 100% correct, it was about those who are angry about not understanding the definition of vaccine.
I'm not sure why people keep trying to introduce unvaccinated people to the discussion.

Vaccines confer acquired immunity.

The term vaccine has always referred to a thing that leads to development of antibodies and t-cells, aka acquired immunity.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I'm not sure why people keep trying to introduce unvaccinated people to the discussion.

Vaccines confer acquired immunity.

The term vaccine has always referred to a thing that leads to development of antibodies and t-cells, aka acquired immunity.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
In the form of acquired (humoral: antibodies, and cell-mediated: t-cells) immunity.

The covid vaccines do that.
ok then just call them covid shots.

we don't call the flu shots flu vaccines.


Covid shots was probably too scary though
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
oh its not that bad? WHEW
just depends on how well you can read i guess.

you're viewing immunity as a true/false or yes/no thing when it's not presented that way even in the previous definition. the new definition just expands the scope to more accurately describe new technology.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's more that people seem(ed) to think any mention of "immunity" refers to sterilizing immunity.

Which is a condition not met by any vaccines.
wrong, you stupid pseudoscience incel fuk

https://journals.plos.org/plospathog...l.ppat.1000998
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Originally Posted By Tears
ok then just call them covid shots.

we don't call the flut shots flu vaccines.


Covid shots was probably too scary though
Laypersons call them flu shots, but they are influenza vaccines.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Well.... yeah.

Ever think it might have something to do with how you Ronaholic fux acted as if covid was the most horrific black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind?

You can't shut down the entire world over this shiit and NOT expect your vaccine for it to be held to a higher standard.

In before semantics
In before acting stupid
Called it.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I'm not sure why people keep trying to introduce unvaccinated people to the discussion.

Vaccines confer acquired immunity.

The term vaccine has always referred to a thing that leads to development of antibodies and t-cells, aka acquired immunity.
Right.. vaccinated/unvaccinated people have fukall to do with a discussion about VACCINES!

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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi
wrong, you stupid pseudoscience incel fuk

https://journals.plos.org/plospathog...l.ppat.1000998
Lol.

What's the product and where can I get it?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Called it.



Right.. vaccinated/unvaccinated people have fukall to do with a discussion about VACCINES!
We're discussing the supposed change to the definition.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
We're discussing the supposed change to the definition.
Change to the definition of...... what? Vaccine?

Nod your Ronaholic head up and down for me.

So yeah, whether you like it or not the people who take, or do not take it are relevant to the discussion.

And besides, you were the one who brought up "covid skeptics"
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Not really

It seems like it was the covid skeptics who believed all vaccines do, or should, confer sterilizing immunity.
So don't weasel out and try to say it's *just* about the definition now that you're backed into a corner.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Laypersons call them flu shots, but they are influenza vaccines.
So why change the definition then?
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Originally Posted By Tears
So why change the definition then?
As I stated previously, it seems the general public thought "immunity" only referred to sterilizing immunity, rather than acquired immunity.

It seems the definition was updated to better reflect the longstanding/historical medical definition.
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Bushlouse on heavy sperge over a vaccine he never took. Guess the 20 vaccines he took in the Coast Guard took its toll.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Bushlouse on heavy sperge over a vaccine he never took. Guess the 20 vaccines he took in the Coast Guard took its toll.
the issue is, older proven vaccines provided immunity, the covid injections do not, the definition of vaccine was CHANGED to no longer include immunity because of this

what are your thoughts on the subject son?
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Bushlouse on heavy sperge over a vaccine he never took. Guess the 20 vaccines he took in the Coast Guard took its toll.
Hey Carl, one of the crushers drank too much tequila last night and there's a puddle of vomit over in the clubhouse bathroom. Go take care of it, son.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
In the form of acquired (humoral: antibodies, and cell-mediated: t-cells) immunity.

The covid vaccines do that.
The covid vaccine does not give one definitive immunity
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
the issue is, older proven vaccines provided immunity, the covid injections do not, the definition of vaccine was CHANGED to no longer include immunity because of this

what are your thoughts on the subject son?
This is precisely the misunderstanding to which I referred.
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Originally Posted By Paul
The covid vaccine does not give one definitive immunity
All of the covid vaccines confer acquired immunity.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
All of the covid vaccines confer acquired immunity.
The covid vaccine does not give one definitive immunity
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LOL This again.
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Someone trigger the JLC account? Its spamming the thread it seems. I cannot see its posts.

I should install that script that totally removes a user, even though Ive blocked JPC it still shows up as blocked user. Nobody wants to read posts from a dishonest retard, bb.com should remove JLC for trolling.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
As I stated previously, it seems the general public thought "immunity" only referred to sterilizing immunity, rather than acquired immunity.

It seems the definition was updated to better reflect the longstanding/historical medical definition.
You keep using that term.

I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
The unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated........trust the science.
"A pandemic of the unvaccinated" they said...
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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20374857

As a result of high vaccination rates in general, measles hasn't been widespread in the United States in about two decades. Most recent measles cases in the U.S. originated outside the country and occurred in people who were unvaccinated or who didn't know whether or not they had been vaccinated.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20375361

Mumps are not common in the United States because of vaccines. But outbreaks do happen. People who are not vaccinated are at high risk of infection. Vaccinated people who get mumps usually have milder symptoms and fewer complications.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20351625
Because of the widespread use of vaccines, cases of tetanus are rare in the United States and other parts of the developed world. The disease remains a threat to people who aren't up to date on their vaccinations. It's more common in developing countries.

The big 3 are still called vaccines.

Maybe this post is specific to Covid labeling?
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Originally Posted By Paul
The covid vaccine does not give one definitive immunity
Which vaccines give one "definitive immunity"?

Also, what is "definitive immunity"?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which vaccines give one "definitive immunity"?

Also, what is "definitive immunity"?
No vaccines, which is why the old definition was meaningless..just like taking the Covid shot (not a vaccine by definition) is meaningless
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which vaccines give one "definitive immunity"?

Also, what is "definitive immunity"?
None, that's why polio and syphilis are starting to come back, yes?

What are the similarities between polio, syphilis, covid, and how they infect people, if you can name any.
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Originally Posted By Tears
None, that's why polio and syphilis are starting to come back, yes?

What are the similarities between polio, syphilis, covid, and how they infect people, if you can name any.
With polio, most infections are asymptomatic or mild and the survival rate is over 95%. That's kinda similar.
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Originally Posted By Paul
No vaccines, which is why the old definition was meaningless..just like taking the Covid shot (not a vaccine by definition) is meaningless
So it's not just covid vaccines to which you're opposed?
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