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post 1686869753 07-20-2023, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By ispy⏩
https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.pageno one's buying it, mask salesman
If we stop testing and reporting, it goes away.

"Because the federal public health emergency for COVID-19 has ended, labs are no longer required to report negative SARS-CoV-2 test results. Multiple labs have stopped reporting these results, so we are no longer able to accurately calculate percent positivity and testing rates for COVID-19."

Magical


post 1686870123 07-20-2023, 11:58 AM
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Pushed on people by governments and companies alike, caused countless arguments and falling out between loved ones, endless REEEEEing from both sides......and it's shown to have only reduced infection by 20-25%? Don't gemme wrong, that's nothing to sniff at at all, but definitely shows that the narrative of absolutely, positively needing one or else you'll kill grandma was never remotely true. The way it was being pushed, and any pushback against it was deemed heresy, you'd think it was more like >80% prevented cases.
post 1686870353 07-20-2023, 12:01 PM
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OP shills for masks, and then pretends to care about the environment......
post 1686870393 07-20-2023, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By TheJimmyRustler⏩
Pushed on people by governments and companies alike, caused countless arguments and falling out between loved ones, endless REEEEEing from both sides......and it's shown to have only reduced infection by 20-25%? Don't gemme wrong, that's nothing to sniff at at all, but definitely shows that the narrative of absolutely, positively needing one or else you'll kill grandma was never remotely true. The way it was being pushed, and any pushback against it was deemed heresy, you'd think it was more like >80% prevented cases.
It does seem like one of the arguments was that anything that wasn't a brick wall against infection wasn't worth doing.
post 1686870553 07-20-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By TheMossad⏩
Yep. Who'd have thought masking would be vital to reducing the spread of an airborne respiratory virus?
Worked so well that the majority of the world's population has had Covid 1-2 times......
post 1686870693 07-20-2023, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Worked so well that the majority of the world's population has had Covid 1-2 times......
Lower odds in those who report more adherence to mitigation measures tho
post 1686870753 07-20-2023, 12:06 PM
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Found OP

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCo...t=1&utm_term=1
post 1686870813 07-20-2023, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lower odds in those who report more adherence to mitigation measures tho
Once again, majority of the world's population had it at least 1-2 times, even the great and powerful Fauci himself.......

And mitigation factors, living like Howard Stern for 3 years?
post 1686870883 07-20-2023, 12:08 PM
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N95s weren’t available during the plandemic. The panties, old tshirts, and paper masks (that say right on the box that they don’t stop the spread of viruses) we were forced to wear to participate in society during the whole charade don’t do **** to stop spread, and never did.
post 1686870893 07-20-2023, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
Found OP

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCo...t=1&utm_term=1
Holy ****, these people need to be culled so they don't pass on their worthless genes.......
post 1686871023 07-20-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Once again, majority of the world's population had it at least 1-2 times, even the great and powerful Fauci himself.......

And mitigation factors, living like Howard Stern for 3 years?
No, just the stuff reported in the paper in OP
post 1686871193 07-20-2023, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
Found OP

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCo...t=1&utm_term=1
Nah, home gym crew.
post 1686871313 07-20-2023, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
N95s weren’t available during the plandemic. The panties, old tshirts, and paper masks (that say right on the box that they don’t stop the spread of viruses) we were forced to wear to participate in society during the whole charade don’t do **** to stop spread, and never did.
It doesn't look like this study was specific to n95's.
post 1686872123 07-20-2023, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I don't think I ever complained about others not wearing masks.
I didn't say you - the mask requirements were all based on the line "your mask protects me and my mask protects you"
post 1686872233 07-20-2023, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
I didn't say you - the mask requirements were all based on the line "your mask protects me and my mask protects you"
Oh okay. Thanks for clarifying.
post 1686872313 07-20-2023, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Oh okay. Thanks for clarifying.
right so masks can help protect the wearer but is an individual choice and there is no reason for mandates on them even if there is a new wave
post 1686872803 07-20-2023, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
right so masks can help protect the wearer but is an individual choice and there is no reason for mandates on them even if there is a new wave
Agreed.

I have stated since the beginning that education is likely a better avenue to pursue than mandates.
post 1686872893 07-20-2023, 12:48 PM
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post 1686873063 07-20-2023, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lower odds in those who report more adherence to mitigation measures tho
Like I said..you think peoples’ responses to online surveys are valid scientific data to base studies on.






While also screaming about how terrible VAERS is. I wonder what is driving the inconsistency in your approach between the two.
post 1686873493 07-20-2023, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Agreed.

I have stated since the beginning that education is likely a better avenue to pursue than mandates.
Right so no benefit to mask wearing for me
post 1686873863 07-20-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Like I said..you think peoples’ responses to online surveys are valid scientific data to base studies on.






While also screaming about how terrible VAERS is. I wonder what is driving the inconsistency in your approach between the two.
I think survey data are one way to conduct observational research. Certainly not my preference, but it's a low-cost way to gather subjective opinions from large numbers of people.

I understand you're mad and appreciate the neg. They did use regression, but being survey-based alone isn't really reason to reject an entire study and it's results, imo.


I don't recall ever screaming about VAERS.

But if you like VAERS data while disregarding these data because they're self reported, that might be something to query.
post 1686873923 07-20-2023, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Right so no benefit to mask wearing for me
You would still benefit from others who are infected wearing them.
post 1686874333 07-20-2023, 01:18 PM
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As long as people with these mental health issues all wear N95 masks that are professionally fitted and they replace them every 30 minutes, they are very effective.
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post 1686874863 07-20-2023, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You would still benefit from others who are infected wearing them.
Nope - I wouldn't mind the time off work
post 1686874943 07-20-2023, 01:30 PM
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Nope. All they did was reduce peoples oxygen to their brains and made them even dumber and more controllable. And produce an incredible amount of trash for landfills and oceans.
For every man, there is a sentence, a string of words, that has the power to destroy him
"The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must" -Thucydides
Shall not be Infringed. FUK CHINA.
post 1686875083 07-20-2023, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Nope - I wouldn't mind the time off work
Then I guess you'd benefit from neither you nor others wearing masks, if that's your only marker of consideration or concern
post 1686875153 07-20-2023, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Then I guess you'd benefit from neither you nor others wearing masks, if that's your only marker of consideration or concern
yes.
post 1686875273 07-20-2023, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
yes.
post 1686875533 07-20-2023, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think survey data are one way to conduct observational research. Certainly not my preference, but it's a low-cost way to gather subjective opinions from large numbers of people.

I understand you're mad and appreciate the neg. They did use regression, but being survey-based alone isn't really reason to reject an entire study and it's results, imo.


I don't recall ever screaming about VAERS.

But if you like VAERS data while disregarding these data because they're self reported, that might be something to query.
Not mad, I just neg people who constantly spam with the same tired threads over and over, especially when you’ve shown over and over that you have no desire for meaningful conversation.


Yes, having such poor input validation is absolutely a reason to dismiss the findings of a study.



And I don’t think I’ve ever said I like VAERS. It could perhaps give us indications of what we should look into, but if someone based a study on VAERS I would dismiss it just as quickly.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Not mad, I just neg people who constantly spam with the same tired threads over and over, especially when you’ve shown over and over that you have no desire for meaningful conversation.


Yes, having such poor input validation is absolutely a reason to dismiss the findings of a study.



And I don’t think I’ve ever said I like VAERS. It could perhaps give us indications of what we should look into, but if someone based a study on VAERS I would dismiss it just as quickly.
Where do you see that the data weren't validated in any way?

You're okay with the use of regression this time? Even without disclosure of algorithm developers and supervisors?

We have different opinions on what constitutes spamming. You are certainly entitled to yours. I don't understand why you'd enter threads on topics you don't like, but recognize you are free to do so
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