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post 1689889213 09-11-2023, 12:46 PM
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Imagine wasting your time watching these “science” videos. Cringe when guys like Nippard act like they have a phD in this chit and go off about “meta-analyses”. He’s a gypsy shill who probably takes roids just like everybody else. “Trust the science bro”.

Just lift the ****ing weight, eat right, and sleep well. It’s not ****ing rocket science.
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post 1689889463 09-11-2023, 12:51 PM
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[QUOTE=JermaineDupri post_id=1689888113]Alpha destiny is looking insane as a natty right now. lol @ juicecels

[youtube]Igup5gRGrWY?si=[utube][/QUOTE]
yea this guy is pretty impressive. His dedication to natty lifting is like the 3D Muscle Journey guys
post 1689889823 09-11-2023, 12:59 PM
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Literally every single training style works

High intensity, volume, frequency, brosplits, PPL, training to failure, leaving reps in reserve, full ROM, partials

Just pick what you enjoy and stick with it for a long time and you’ll gain muscle

These science based yootoob celeries can drop dead
post 1689890023 09-11-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
I'd say out of all Olympias, Dorian would the only one I would listen to. Someone who perfected form, and actually controlled the weight.
I've actually used Dorians routine and its still basically just a bro split with slightly lower volume where you train each muscle 1x per week. 2 muscles per day. Less over-all warmup sets and on your top set you use a bit more weight to failure.

Same basic principles of a bro split though. Train each muscle group once per week. In his 2 muscle groups per day. Hit that muscle hard to failure. Some use lots of volume, Dorian used less volume with more weight. Then let that muscle rest a week and train it again. People have tried to market Dorians split as something vastly different from what everyone else does. But at the end of the day he just went harder with heavier weight for fewer sets.





Everyone likes to over-complicate lifting routines because that's how you make money/get popular. Its literally as simple as train a muscle as hard as possible. Get as big of a pump as possible. Then let it rest for a week and hit it a little harder next time.
post 1689890053 09-11-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By AshWar
Literally every single training style works

High intensity, volume, frequency, brosplits, PPL, training to failure, leaving reps in reserve, full ROM, partials

Just pick what you enjoy and stick with it for a long time and you’ll gain muscle

These science based yootoob celeries can drop dead
brad put me onto a cutting edge one:

16oz curlsx20 to failure (to show up)
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post 1689890093 09-11-2023, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By AshWar
Literally every single training style works

High intensity, volume, frequency, brosplits, PPL, training to failure, leaving reps in reserve, full ROM, partials

Just pick what you enjoy and stick with it for a long time and you’ll gain muscle

These science based yootoob celeries can drop dead
pretty much, most important thing is to just work tf out of the muscle

also common sense will tell you that it's a good idea to do high weight+low weights (different rep ranges etc.) in your splits
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post 1689890143 09-11-2023, 01:06 PM
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It makes me lol every time.

If you take the perfect science based workout and a trainer and work with some random kid, I guarantee me just doing my own workouts from my own thought process would blow that kid out of the water. Literally the key factor is intent. I can build better legs with 1 set of 20 rep squats in 6 months than a bro can with a whole science workout plan.

It's just for people to stroke their egos. Find what works for you, what yields you results, and make sure you push yourself each time. Have fun and enjoy the gains.
post 1689890653 09-11-2023, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By JermaineDupri
Alpha destiny is looking insane as a natty right now. lol @ juicecels

Props to him but he’s like 5’1”
post 1689890673 09-11-2023, 01:18 PM
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Science based lifting will only take you so far as your genetics natty.

Science based lifting will only take you so far as your genetics on gear, above but enhanced (you will always revert back to above off cycle).

Science based lifting will take you beyond your genetics on gear combined with hgh + slin (hgh & slin actually create brand new muscle cells rather than temporarily enlarge them)


The bodybuilders competing on stage or worlds strongest man are in the third category. Throw some diuretics in there during comp time for bbers.
post 1689890843 09-11-2023, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By xbluexhawkx
without the 10 different anabolics he'd probably be smaller than me
Cope
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post 1689890933 09-11-2023, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916
You’re not even 200lbs boyo
Damn
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post 1689892923 09-11-2023, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic
Imagine wasting your time watching these “science” videos. Cringe when guys like Nippard act like they have a phD in this chit and go off about “meta-analyses”. He’s a gypsy shill who probably takes roids just like everybody else. “Trust the science bro”.

Just lift the ****ing weight, eat right, and sleep well. It’s not ****ing rocket science.
It's not as simple as lifting the weight......
post 1689892933 09-11-2023, 02:06 PM
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Most gym goers rep range is from 1 to "slightly uncomfortable". Never to anything close to real failure. They can do this for years and not really make any gains.

On top of that, their protein intake is about 30g/day. They either eat too little or eat too many empty calories.
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post 1689893013 09-11-2023, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89
I've actually used Dorians routine and its still basically just a bro split with slightly lower volume where you train each muscle 1x per week. 2 muscles per day. Less over-all warmup sets and on your top set you use a bit more weight to failure.

Same basic principles of a bro split though. Train each muscle group once per week. In his 2 muscle groups per day. Hit that muscle hard to failure. Some use lots of volume, Dorian used less volume with more weight. Then let that muscle rest a week and train it again. People have tried to market Dorians split as something vastly different from what everyone else does. But at the end of the day he just went harder with heavier weight for fewer sets.





Everyone likes to over-complicate lifting routines because that's how you make money/get popular. Its literally as simple as train a muscle as hard as possible. Get as big of a pump as possible. Then let it rest for a week and hit it a little harder next time.
Think about it though, if some douchebag zoomer isn't hogging a machine or piece of equipment, what excuse can you possibly have, to be in the gym longer than an hr?
post 1689893743 09-11-2023, 02:19 PM
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post 1689894243 09-11-2023, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze
Not everyone's genetics can handle working out two hours a day in the morning and then two hours a day in the evening all six days of the week.
Wow, you really belive thats what Arnold did?
post 1689894513 09-11-2023, 02:30 PM
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You're right. I'd rather use faith-based lifting. Jesus is my training partner and god gives me all my gains because I pray over my post-workout shake 3x a week.
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post 1689894793 09-11-2023, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Wow, you really belive thats what Arnold did?
Of course, Arnold mentioned it in his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding that that was what he did for Olympia prep and many other Golden era bodybuilders like Tom Platz confirmed that the volume that Arnold did was too much for even them sometimes.
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post 1689896023 09-11-2023, 03:01 PM
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You said listen to Arnold like he wasn’t born with the testosterone of an entire graduating class of 2023, and then juiced to double it from age 16.

OP you can’t give lifting advice mocking Jeff Nipples for being a turbo manlet while being 6’2-3” and under 200lbs.
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post 1689896483 09-11-2023, 03:09 PM
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You have a bunch of variables (reps, sets, rest period, TUT, frequency, weight etc) which you keep the same until you no longer see any improvement, at which point you change a variable.

If the changed variable results in improvement, you continue with it, and if not, you revert to the old value and change a different variable.

That's the basis of both successful training and the scientific method. Successful training is science based lifting.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!

The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.

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post 1689896513 09-11-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights
You said listen to Arnold like he wasn’t born with the testosterone of an entire graduating class of 2023, and then juiced to double it from age 16.

OP you can’t give lifting advice mocking Jeff Nipples for being a turbo manlet while being 6’2-3” and under 200lbs.
Post your physique
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post 1689896733 09-11-2023, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
science wasn't invented back then srs
Hey, I saw Oppenheimer, I know it existed, ****gort.
post 1689896883 09-11-2023, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By WTFHappenedLmao
you hate science but took the vaxx and 5 boosters?
you really believe that huh
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post 1689905773 09-11-2023, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze
Of course, Arnold mentioned it in his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding that that was what he did for Olympia prep and many other Golden era bodybuilders like Tom Platz confirmed that the volume that Arnold did was too much for even them sometimes.
He told tall tales like that to appear larger than life. You really believe he was working out 24 hrs a week???
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