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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
no possible way that uber and lyftcels are turning a net profit lol
The whole point of Uber was to be a ride SHARING app.... which means you carpool with people who are going the same way as you. So if you are commuting downtown from the burbs, you could SHARE your commute with a neighbor, and they'd pay you a portion of your costs.

The fact Americans are so bad at math they saw it as an entrepreneurial opportunity is actually hilarious.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
The whole point of Uber was to be a ride SHARING app.... which means you carpool with people who are going the same way as you. So if you are commuting downtown from the burbs, you could SHARE your commute with a neighbor, and they'd pay you a portion of your costs.

The fact Americans are so bad at math they saw it as an entrepreneurial opportunity is actually hilarious.
yeah, woodn't be too bad if you used it as intended, aside from the fact that 9 volts would still murder you
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I'm sure this includes repairs averaged out, but... what type of repairs?

Is this taking some person who does EVERY single recommended upkeep? Someone who changes the oil on the dot, does the tranny fluid, and when they hear a squeak they take it in for a $300 inspection and spend $1,500 on tiny repairs that they could do themselves in an hour?

You could spend a TON of money on things if you technically followed every piece of advice to the T.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
There's no way that's accurate. Most sedans are getting 30-40 mpg, unless that factors in insurance, maintenance, etc. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
While its accurate that sedans can get 30+mpgs, some things affect the mpg ratings and some things add to the expense over the cost of gas/per gallon.

Bad tires and alignment can eat away 5+10/mpgs(not really a problem with new cars). Then there's the cost of oil. You have to change the oil at 5k intervals using the good chit or its night night for the engines. The real cost for new cars is the added trim levels. A base 25k can easily reach 35k. That may make sense if you are going from a base 4cynlinder to a 6cynlinder and the car will hold its value. But most of the time you're just getting lame electronics in the higher trims(lane keep assist)
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Depreciation really is a killer.

I told myself I'd get a prius for years but couldn't bring myself to do it. I'm not in the market for a vehicle any time soon but the latest generation Prius will probably be it when I'm ready to buy. 190 hp, 57 mpg, doesn't look goofy.
I can't get a new Prius in my area. they sell out immediately. Drive an older Prius and its hands-down the best car I've ever driven.

I'm shocked that more people who hate driving/commuting/wasting time in their car don't drive one. Its really a publicity thing as I get that people don't think its cool. That said, if you value appearance then maybe its not the car for you. I said what Larry David said years before I saw what he said on the show (he drives a prius)...."what do I care what it looks like the exterior? When I'm driving, I don't have to look at it."

Just a phenomenal car and this is coming from a guy who can fix cars easy...never need to worry about the Prius. Roomy too. My dog can stand in the back and she's a 100lbs GSD.


blackpill thought: if you drive a "hot car" (whatever it might be jeep lambo) if you don't look Chaddish when you get out it'll just look tryhard. rather just drive the Prius and go incognito. Its only hot when the person stepping outta the car is also hot.

Ain't nobody wanna see no fat dude tumble outta his Lambo.

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Originally Posted By andrepmeet⏩
I can't get a new Prius in my area. they sell out immediately. Drive an older Prius and its hands-down the best car I've ever driven.
Hybrids are reel nice when they work. Its when they break down that they can be a reel pain in the ass.
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Hybrids are reel nice when they work. Its when they break down that they can be a reel pain in the ass.
yeah but the statistical likelihood is very low. of course you hear about them but what about % that don't have problems?

I've looked into this extensively. the failed hybrid battery is very rare and often due to driver negligence. plenty of prius taxis have 500k and on original battery.
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Originally Posted By andrepmeet⏩
yeah but the statistical likelihood is very low. of course you hear about them but what about % that don't have problems?

I've looked into this extensively. the failed hybrid battery is very rare and often due to driver negligence. plenty of prius taxis have 500k and on original battery.
I own one. Yeah youre right that certain parts do last a long time. But some hybrid parts need to be replaced at a certain mileage, and can be costly. They also add an extra layer of complexity, which takes a bit more time to learn and diagnose.
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
I'm sure this includes repairs averaged out, but... what type of repairs?

Is this taking some person who does EVERY single recommended upkeep? Someone who changes the oil on the dot, does the tranny fluid, and when they hear a squeak they take it in for a $300 inspection and spend $1,500 on tiny repairs that they could do themselves in an hour?

You could spend a TON of money on things if you technically followed every piece of advice to the T.
This is the average American driver.

So some pay more, and some pay less.

$0.73 per mile is what the average American spends to drive.
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Originally Posted By Onlinedatingcel⏩
Cars will keep you broke unless you get lucky and buy a reliable beater.
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Originally Posted By HateLiberals⏩
Learn to turn wrenches like a man? Then doesn't matter
That might get you down to like $0.60/mile.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Fuark. That's the average cost to own/use a car in the USA.

Pretty brutal tbh.

Brb, driving 25 miles. Brb, paying $18.25 for the privilege.

Brb, taking a small 250 mile road trip. Brb, paying $182.50 to do so.
Numbers don't add up Professor Nash. My commuter car is a 2018 Acura

200k estimated life (conservative) = 200,000 * .73 = 146K

Insurance < 1100 per year
Gas ~ $50 per week
Maintenance is nothing now

You are way high and this is an above average vehicle
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Originally Posted By skier!⏩
Numbers don't add up Professor Nash. My commuter car is a 2018 Acura

200k estimated life (conservative) = 200,000 * .73 = 146K

Insurance < 1100 per year
Gas ~ $50 per week
Maintenance is nothing now

You are way high and this is an above average vehicle
Sorry bud, this is the average American expense of car ownership.

Incels cruising around in their chit box pull the average down, but the average is still $0.73/mile.

Some MOGGERS riding in a 250swb are paying like $10k/mile.
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Originally Posted By headturner1⏩
So I keep track of how much I pay for gas in a spreadsheet for this very purpose.

I paid 33k including tax in 2016 for my car
Pay about 100 a month for insurance * 96 months
Approximately 18000$ in gas during that time
About another 5k for maintenance items

I’m at roughly 73c per mile (ded fkn srs).

Feels bad man
33k car
8 ys * 1200 = 9600
18k gas
5k maint

total 65600

math says you drove 89.9 k miles in 8 years

11.2 k miles per year

unless you gave you car away for free it currently has a value. so you didn't pay that. has to be worth at least 10k now

you guys cray
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
You pay more money to Ukraine just to watch them keep losing.
cope harder, clown.
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Originally Posted By skier!⏩
33k car
8 ys * 1200 = 9600
18k gas
5k maint

total 65600

math says you drove 89.9 k miles in 8 years

11.2 k miles per year

unless you gave you car away for free it currently has a value. so you didn't pay that. has to be worth at least 10k now

you guys cray
So what you're saying is that if headturner1 sold his car, and no longer had a car, his cost per mile would be slightly less than $0.73 per mile ..... good math, Einstein.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Why its harder for the US to have a more developed nationwide public transportation system:

Fixed^^^
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.08/mi insurance
.16/mi in gas
.13/mi in registration. This goes down as the car gets older, but I was generous and left it as is.
.13/mi in depreciation
.03/mi in maintenance

Cost of ownership is 53 cents a mile.

Gas could go down if Trump is re-elected. The luxury registration tax is a fukin joke. I may move states. I could get this under .40/mi

Depreciation...say i keep it 5 years. Should depreciate about $10k. 75k miles

Maintenance...I do it all myself. It's minimal and reliable. Say $500/yr and that's max. $2,500 total.
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
.08/mi insurance
.16/mi in gas
.13/mi in registration. This goes down as the car gets older, but I was generous and left it as is.
.13/mi in depreciation
.03/mi in maintenance

Cost of ownership is 40 cents a mile.

Depreciation...say i keep it 5 years. Should depreciate about $10k. 75k miles
Maintenance...I do it all myself. It's minimal and reliable. Say $500/yr and that's max. $2,500 total.
Yeah mine is also a bit less than $0.73/mile.... But the average in the USA is in fact $0.73/mile.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Yeah mine is also a bit less than $0.73/mile.... But the average in the USA is in fact $0.73/mile.
I re-calculated. I'd imagine the national average is higher due to most people paying interest. It IS higher than I thought it'd be. I was generous in my numbers though. Realistically, I'm only changing the oil, but .03 in maintenance is pretty low anyway.

If gas is cut in half again and registration goes down, could easily hit .40-45/mi, nice to know I'm doing better than average I guess.
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
I re-calculated. I'd imagine the national average is higher due to most people paying interest. It IS higher than I thought it'd be. I was generous in my numbers though. Realistically, I'm only changing the oil, but .03 in maintenance is pretty low anyway.
Yeah, but it's crazy when you realize that trip to the grocery store actually costs $2.... It's right down the road.

I just drove to the grand canyon and now realize that trip cost me just over $400 in car driving.... FUARK.

If someone told me to estimate the cost, I'd guess about $100-$150 range. Not even close.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
So what you're saying is that if headturner1 sold his car, and no longer had a car, his cost per mile would be slightly less than $0.73 per mile ..... good math, Einstein.
Haha, thanks hashbrown. I slept like 3 hours last night and was trying to figure out what the hell he was on about.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Yeah, but it's crazy when you realize that trip to the grocery store actually costs $2.... It's right down the road.

I just drove to the grand canyon and now realize that trip cost me just over $400 in car driving.... FUARK.

If someone told me to estimate the cost, I'd guess about $100-$150 range. Not even close.
I found my future registration fees on the state website. So my cost is now .43 a mile.

I just don't know if cost per mile is a good way to gauge actual cost; certainly not for a trip. I take very long road trips all the time, anywhere from 1-3k in miles. The only costs on those trips are gas, oil, some minor tire wear, and some depreciation due to mileage. Oil cost is negligible, like $10-15 for synthetic if you went 3k miles. Cuz that's only half the oil life. .013/mi for tires. So gas and mileage depreciation are the only real expense on a long trip. $1000 per 10,000 miles in depreciation could be accurate depending on the car? So actually a 3k mile trip is $333 if did the math right. Dang, that's actually a lot

Insurance and registration are sunk costs and we gotta pay those regardless of miles. Shouldn't be used in a trip.
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
I found my future registration fees on the state website. So my cost is now .43 a mile.

I just don't know if cost per mile is a good way to gauge actual cost; certainly not for a trip. I take very long road trips all the time, anywhere from 1-3k in miles. The only costs on those trips are gas, oil, some minor tire wear, and some depreciation due to mileage. Insurance and registration are sunk costs and we gotta pay those regardless of miles.
I think looking at PER MILE is incredibly powerful for people to perceive.... it boldly lays out the expense of moving your ass around town. Oh, you want to go out for dinner to this place on the opposite side of town? That'll be $22.

In a world where miscers are pissed off about tipping $10, they're getting CUCKED by driving and don't even know it.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
This is the average American driver.

So some pay more, and some pay less.

$0.73 per mile is what the average American spends to drive.
Ok, that's helpful.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I think looking at PER MILE is incredibly powerful for people to perceive.... it boldly lays out the expense of moving your ass around town. Oh, you want to go out for dinner to this place on the opposite side of town? That'll be $22.

In a world where miscers are pissed off about tipping $10, they're getting CUCKED by driving and don't even know it.
You can't break it down that far. At least half of those costs happen whether or not you drive at all. The more you drive the cheaper per mile it gets in a lot of cases.

Imagine I brought a brand new F150... Drove it 1 mile per day.

Those miles would be insanely expensive. Still paying massive insurance, depreciation, interest...
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
You can't break it down that far. At least half of those costs happen whether or not you drive at all. The more you drive the cheaper per mile it gets in a lot of cases.

Imagine I brought a brand new F150... Drove it 1 mile per day.

Those miles would be insanely expensive. Still paying massive insurance, depreciation, interest...
by that^ logic, you should buy a lambo and drive it a bazillion miles.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
by that^ logic, you should buy a lambo and drive it a bazillion miles.
Didn't pause to think before posting did you?

There are very clearly fixed and variable costs with car ownership (also semi-fixed).

You're rolling fixed costs into a per mileage basis. If you were paying those costs if the car was sitting in your garage it isn't necessarily applicable to a per mileage basis.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Didn't pause to think before posting did you?

There are very clearly fixed and variable costs with car ownership (also semi-fixed).

You're rolling fixed costs into a per mileage basis. If you were paying those costs if the car was sitting in your garage it isn't necessarily applicable to a per mileage basis.
Well, your conclusion should have been, "wow, that is wildly expensive to just drive.... Maybe people should look at that number and make STRONG considerations when doing a car purchase."

instead you thought, "well, I don't think it's relevant on a per mile basis, so I'll go about my business like an NPC that considers nothing."
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
So what you're saying is that if headturner1 sold his car, and no longer had a car, his cost per mile would be slightly less than $0.73 per mile ..... good math, Einstein.
Yes Dr nash. He is figuring the entire cost of the car whereas if he paid 30k and sold it for 15k, you only consider the 15k.

You are both assuming the entire cost of the car is a fixed cost and it is being run into the ground, given away for free, etc. It has a life and a value if he is still holding it.

If you buy a 1 mil car and drive it 1000 miles (not considering any other expenses to keep it easy) then sell it for 950k you cannot say the cost per mile is 1000. It is 50 per mile.

Correct way to do the calculation is similar to accounting, you hold the asset and each month you depreciate it
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